The One And Only Offseason Thread 3

kennydorglas · Post #301 » by **kennydorglas** » Wed Jul 16, 2014 3:11 am

John Henson
6.9 Opp FGA at Rim
46%

that's not bad at all
Taj Gibson's like number

Revived · Post #302 » by **Revived** » Wed Jul 16, 2014 3:12 am

bwgood77 wrote:
SF88 wrote:
gaspar wrote:Empty numbers on a terrible team. He plays defense like Amare and has no range, but is too skinny to defend centers.

Lol I can say all that same stuff about Isaiah Thomas and Kevin Love too.

The kid is young and has ton of potential. He can build up like Kieff. He can learn to play D. Fact that he's able to put up such impressive numbers while still being so raw is amazing.

So you are using Isaiah (who you seem to hate) to support your backing of Henson? OK.

I find it funny that it's ok for some players to put up "empty" stats on losing teams and yet it's apparently not ok for others to do it.

I don't hate Thomas as a player, I hated the signing because I didn't see the fit but I'm coming around to it.

Cutter · Post #303 » by **Cutter** » Wed Jul 16, 2014 3:12 am

bwgood77 wrote:Puff, what exactly are you talking about? How do WE end up with David Lee in a Minnesota/GS trade?

Couldn't we just absorb his salary due to the amount of cap space we have?

If Love is off the table, I'm not opposed to getting David Lee. Not thrilled, but not opposed.

spanishninja · Post #304 » by **spanishninja** » Wed Jul 16, 2014 3:13 am

and remember lots of good players start out on bad teams, since they're likely to be top lottery picks. That Lebron guy? He played on a bad team when he came in.

Revived · Post #305 » by **Revived** » Wed Jul 16, 2014 3:13 am

kennydorglas wrote:John Henson
6.9 Opp FGA at Rim
46%

that's not bad at all
Taj Gibson's like number

No he put up stats on a losing team so doesn't count.

....

Ok guys come on, let's go back to talking about trading for Kevin Love!

drewsprocket · Post #306 » by **drewsprocket** » Wed Jul 16, 2014 3:15 am

Frye's comments is hardly news worthy. I like the guy...He got PAID by a team willing to over pay him. Congrats, but you're drunk if you think you're worth more than the 6.8 you were set to earn next season. Fine player, great person. Good luck. Don't act like you were done wrong by the Suns...you were rescued by the Suns (Steve Nash and Gentry).

Revived · Post #307 » by **Revived** » Wed Jul 16, 2014 3:16 am

SunZel wrote:Gery Woelfel ‏@GeryWoelfel

Bucks definitely have interest in Eric Bledsoe, but are Suns willing to cooperate?

Lol is that guy legit? I had more followers on Twitter than him...

SunsFanSSOL · Post #308 » by **SunsFanSSOL** » Wed Jul 16, 2014 3:17 am

drewsprocket wrote:Frye's comments is hardly news worthy. I like the guy...He got PAID by a team willing to over pay him. Congrats, but you're drunk if you think you're worth more than the 6.8 you were set to earn next season. Fine player, great person. Good luck. Don't act like you were done wrong by the Suns...you were rescued by the Suns (Steve Nash and Gentry).

What's significant about his comments are that McD only seems to care about the guys he's brought in, not the guys from the previous regime (Dragic, Morris twins, Marshall, Gortat, Brown, Johnson, Beasley). The only exception to this so far seems to be Tucker.

kennydorglas · Post #309 » by **kennydorglas** » Wed Jul 16, 2014 3:19 am

drewsprocket wrote:Frye's comments is hardly news worthy. I like the guy...He got PAID by a team willing to over pay him. Congrats, but you're drunk if you think you're worth more than the 6.8 you were set to earn next season. Fine player, great person. Good luck. Don't act like you were done wrong by the Suns...you were rescued by the Suns (Steve Nash and Gentry).

yeah, i feel sorry for that comment.
I didn't see that coming, especially from frye.
kinda sucks

SunZel · Post #310 » by **SunZel** » Wed Jul 16, 2014 3:20 am

SF88 wrote:
SunZel wrote:Gery Woelfel ‏@GeryWoelfel

Bucks definitely have interest in Eric Bledsoe, but are Suns willing to cooperate?

Lol is that guy legit? I had more followers on Twitter than him...

lol no idea.

Post #311 » by **bwgood77** » Wed Jul 16, 2014 3:20 am

Cutter wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:Puff, what exactly are you talking about? How do WE end up with David Lee in a Minnesota/GS trade?

Couldn't we just absorb his salary due to the amount of cap space we have?

If Love is off the table, I'm not opposed to getting David Lee. Not thrilled, but not opposed.

You mean just absorb his salary and send out a 2nd round pick or something? I guess we could, but all along I've been saying I'd never accept the GS offer because the Lee contract has negative value and Barnes sucked last year.

Lee helps us with rebounding but that is it. The whole point GS wants to trade for Love is because they want a stretch 4 which is what we REALLY need moreso than GS even, because their guards are MUCH better shooters than ours.

Jdiddy701 · Post #312 » by **Jdiddy701** » Wed Jul 16, 2014 3:20 am

Suns play tomorrow at 1pm PHX time. FML

Vs Minnesota on NBATV

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Phnxsports · Post #313 » by **Phnxsports** » Wed Jul 16, 2014 3:21 am

Sunsdeuce wrote:
SunsFanSSOL wrote:"I felt like they (the Suns) were saving money for other things," Frye said. "They were not close enough to me to take it seriously, which makes sense. It's a business.

"You have to be somewhere you're wanted. I felt like the guys who have been there for years became a side note."

http://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/n ... /12710595/

Sarver strikes again. Everytime I start giving him the benefit of the doubt, stuff like this is brought

Where does anything that would support you trashing Sarver appear to you in anything above? Please commence with your "I thought this was America I can have my own opinion" rant.

letsgosuns · Post #314 » by **letsgosuns** » Wed Jul 16, 2014 3:21 am

I could care less what Frye says. I am beyond happy that he is gone. No more ever having to watch any 0-9 or 1-10 games from him with bad defense and no rebounding.

NaturalBuns · Post #315 » by **NaturalBuns** » Wed Jul 16, 2014 3:27 am

Frye

"Didn't want to leave"
But you opted out..... What a troll

Cutter · Post #316 » by **Cutter** » Wed Jul 16, 2014 3:27 am

Sunsdeuce wrote:
SunsFanSSOL wrote:"I felt like they (the Suns) were saving money for other things," Frye said. "They were not close enough to me to take it seriously, which makes sense. It's a business.

"You have to be somewhere you're wanted. I felt like the guys who have been there for years became a side note."

http://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/n ... /12710595/

Sarver strikes again. Everytime I start giving him the benefit of the doubt, stuff like this is brought to light.

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Sarver is very smart in this situation. Suns never, not once, made it to the playoffs in the "Stretch 4 Era". Every year that Frye was our starting PF we missed the playoffs. Frye played a Stretch C in 2009-10 when we went to the WCF, but that team was all about Nash-Amare, with Frye being a complimentary player. Once Amare was traded in July 2010 and Frye became our starting PF, the days of Suns going to the playoffs were over. I don't blame him entirely for Suns missing the playoffs, but he owns part of it.

Sarver and McD are smart to turn the page and move in a new direction. I think it's a bit of a cheap shot by Frye to whine at the end saying he felt like a side note because he had been there for years. I thought he was classier than that.

Post #317 » by **bwgood77** » Wed Jul 16, 2014 3:30 am

Phnxsports wrote:
Sunsdeuce wrote:
SunsFanSSOL wrote:"I felt like they (the Suns) were saving money for other things," Frye said. "They were not close enough to me to take it seriously, which makes sense. It's a business.

"You have to be somewhere you're wanted. I felt like the guys who have been there for years became a side note."

http://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/n ... /12710595/

Sarver strikes again. Everytime I start giving him the benefit of the doubt, stuff like this is brought

Where does anything that would support you trashing Sarver appear to you in anything above? Please commence with your "I thought this was America I can have my own opinion" rant.

Honestly I don't think that is Sarver. I've never been a fan of Sarver in the past, but I think he finally gave the reigns over to McD to make the decisions which is what was needed and this stuff will happen. Now he may try and intervene if Dragic is going to go, but maybe not if he has enough faith in McD.

Jdiddy701 · Post #318 » by **Jdiddy701** » Wed Jul 16, 2014 3:30 am

People will forget about Frye quickly. I wouldn't be surprised if he goes a month of no playing time.

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phx#7 · Post #319 » by **phx#7** » Wed Jul 16, 2014 3:31 am

Letting Frye go was a basketball decision not a financial decision. If the Suns could have paid him 8mil a year without it counting towards the cap I'm sure they would have, but having that contract hurts the teams flexibility going forward.

Post #320 » by **lilfishi22** » Wed Jul 16, 2014 3:32 am

Sunsdeuce wrote:
SunsFanSSOL wrote:"I felt like they (the Suns) were saving money for other things," Frye said. "They were not close enough to me to take it seriously, which makes sense. It's a business.

"You have to be somewhere you're wanted. I felt like the guys who have been there for years became a side note."

http://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/n ... /12710595/

Sarver strikes again. Everytime I start giving him the benefit of the doubt, stuff like this is brought to light.

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So Sarver has to go above and beyond and overpay or he's a cheap owner?

Frye got PAID and good for him. I wish him all the best. But he got overpaid and there's no reason why we should spend $8m a year for the sake of keeping the "old guard" together.

lilfishi22 wrote:He's just salty that we didn't put forth a stronger effort to resign him (at whatever cost) but it's a business and you do what's best for yourself. He went to a team with money to pay him and we didn't want to overpay, pretty simple.