DarkAzcura wrote:BubbaTe wrote:DarkAzcura wrote:I think a tournament is a great idea, but the summer is a better time for it, imo. Cut the regular season down to 60 games, cut a round out of the playoffs, and I'm sure teams would buy into a summer, single-elimination tournament in August-September. It'd probably be really, really popular.
Teams would love losing 25% of regular season revenue and 25-100% of playoff revenue?
You realize these are the same teams that locked out the players 3 years ago because they felt they weren't getting enough money already, right? They'd make the season 150 games long if they could.
They could make up a lot of that money with a single elimination tournament.
They would make up 10 home games' worth of revenue? How long is this tournament supposed to be?
The winner of the NCAA tournament only plays 6 games, and that tournament starts with 64 teams. A 30-team NBA tournament would only have 5 rounds at most, and that's assuming that good teams like SA or OKC would even play in some "win the 8th seed" tournament. You're really looking at a 16 team (4 round) tournament, and only the top 2 teams would even play 4 games. Maybe you could get 20 teams in using byes, but even then, you're going to have teams that are higher than the 8-seed competing to win the 8-seed - they're not going to have much motivation.
A 20 team tournament has 19 games. So in exchange for these 19 tournament games, you expect the owners to give up 600 regular season games (30 teams x 20 games/team)? You think 19 tournament games will make more money than 600 regular season games?
People in this world eat that stuff up like no one's business.
Really? Who? Show me these people who "eat up" tournaments where the winner gets
8th place. I don't even know who finished 8th in the World Cup. Who finished 8th in the last FIBA world championships or Olympics? Who finished 8th in March Madness or the NFL playoffs? Who cares?
Who are these people? Do they run around with signs that say "We're #8!" and hold up 8-fingered foam hands? Do they hang banners for all the consolation brackets they've won?
Your view is exactly why the NBA will struggle to grow exponentially. You are too focused on amount of games equalling revenue, ignoring the fact that a long regular season turns some (a lot) people off. Especially when your league lacks parity.
Um, because the amount of games DOES equal revenue.
Are fans at these tournament games going to buy 30X more parking spaces than fans at regular season games? Are they going to buy 30X more hot dogs and beer and jerseys? Are they going to pay 30X more per ticket, and buy 30X more luxury suites? Because that's what it's gonna take in order to make up for a loss of 600 regular season games' worth of revenue in favor of a 20-team tourney - not to mention the loss of 100% of playoff revenue for 8 teams that would come from eliminating a playoff round.
Or are you just gonna rely on the owners eating that 25% loss out of the goodness of their own hearts? The same owners who are willing to lockout players and cancel games over a 5% change in the salary cap as a percentage of BRI.
BTW - the NBA
has grown exponentially using an 82 game schedule and a 16 team, 4 round tournament. I don't know where they'd be with a 60 game schedule and tournaments to "win" 8th place, probably behind hockey and arena football.
What's the point in playing 82 games when everyone knows who is going to be there in the end most likely.
LOL if you "know who's going to be there" already, then why bother playing 60 games? Why bother even playing 30 games?
Again looking at amount of games as the main source of revenue could be hurting the league. The NFL would be so much less popular if the regular season was tripled for example.
LOL is that why the NFL is pushing for an 18 game schedule? Because they want to hurt their own league?
Also - no one is talking about tripling the schedule. I'm talking about not cutting 25% of the schedule in favor of some midseason consolation bracket tournament.
When games have more meaning, more people tune in.
Why not just skip the season entirely and just have a 30-team single-elimination tournament? Think of how much "meaning" each game would have!
BTW - a single NCAA football regular season game has far more meaning than a single NFL regular season game. 1 or 2 losses can end a NCAA team's championship hopes, whereas in the NFL sub-.500 teams can make the playoffs. Yet the NFL's regular season consistently has higher ratings.
