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Post#501 » by ImNotMcDiSwear » Wed Jul 16, 2014 6:26 pm

aIvin adams wrote:
cosmofizzo wrote:
Sunsdeuce wrote:@SportsWhispers: #Wizards are close to acquiring DeJuan Blair through a sign and trade with Dallas (ESPN)

Totally forgot about Blair


The Wizards will be deep. They could get home court advantage this year. Great offseason for them.

Wall/Miller
Beal/Webster/Rice
Pierce/Porter
Nene/Blair
Gortat/Humphries


They are going to be in ECF this yr


It sure would be nice to see a LeBronless finals this year :D
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Post#502 » by Funky Tut » Wed Jul 16, 2014 6:27 pm

cosmofizzo wrote:
aIvin adams wrote:
cosmofizzo wrote:
The Wizards will be deep. They could get home court advantage this year. Great offseason for them.

Wall/Miller
Beal/Webster/Rice
Pierce/Porter
Nene/Blair
Gortat/Humphries


They are going to be in ECF this yr


It sure would be nice to see a LeBronless finals this year :D



I second that, add some damn parity to this league.
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Post#503 » by kburry151 » Wed Jul 16, 2014 6:36 pm

Funky Tut wrote:
cosmofizzo wrote:
aIvin adams wrote:
They are going to be in ECF this yr


It sure would be nice to see a LeBronless finals this year :D



I second that, add some damn parity to this league.


Just this year? I'm hoping to never see him in the finals again. Wishful thinking I know.
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Post#504 » by magoo » Wed Jul 16, 2014 6:53 pm

I don't understand the term "max contract." It certainly can't mean the maximum. From what I read, Bosh signed a 5yr/118million "max" contract. Carmelo signed a 5yr/124million contract that was less than the 129 max he could have signed for. I think they came from the same draft, and they both signed with their current teams. What's the deal? Does the "max" number depend on the contract they just finished- as Carmelo is coming off of a max and Bosh is not?
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Post#505 » by PhxSunsFan1234 » Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:04 pm

aIvin adams wrote:
cosmofizzo wrote:
Sunsdeuce wrote:@SportsWhispers: #Wizards are close to acquiring DeJuan Blair through a sign and trade with Dallas (ESPN)

Totally forgot about Blair


The Wizards will be deep. They could get home court advantage this year. Great offseason for them.

Wall/Miller
Beal/Webster/Rice
Pierce/Porter
Nene/Blair
Gortat/Humphries


They are going to be in ECF this yr


If Otto Porter can be somewhat useful on the court, I think it's between the Bulls and them. Bulls look scary good and obviously depends on Rose but with Thibs, you know they will be competitive. Otto Porter was pretty terrible pick so far, maybe he's found his stride and can be useful.
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Post#506 » by PhxSunsFan1234 » Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:08 pm

I wonder with the TV contract (and his injury history) if it would make sense to sign Bledsoe to 2yr + 1yr team option max contract. If he continues to play well and injury bug doesn't strike, he proves his worth and can take advantage of new max deals with higher salary cap. However, if he continues to get hurt, proves he's not worth it (or at least on the Suns) and we let him go.

Wonder if this benefits either side or too risky for both sides.
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Post#507 » by ImNotMcDiSwear » Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:10 pm

PhxSunsFan1234 wrote:If Otto Porter can be somewhat useful on the court, I think it's between the Bulls and them. Bulls look scary good and obviously depends on Rose but with Thibs, you know they will be competitive. Otto Porter was pretty terrible pick so far, maybe he's found his stride and can be useful.


He's looked solid in summer league, fwiw.
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Post#508 » by King4Day » Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:12 pm

With the Bucks about to sign Bayless, who are our main competitors for Bledsoe? Philly I imagine?
He actually would fit perfectly there. Kinda stunned they aren't going after him. It's not like they are trying to sign anyone else. Maybe they just don't want to be bothered knowing we'll match.

I wonder how much we're offering him that he hasn't signed?
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Post#509 » by SideSwipe » Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:18 pm

DarkHawk wrote:With the Bucks about to sign Bayless, who are our main competitors for Bledsoe? Philly I imagine?
He actually would fit perfectly there. Kinda stunned they aren't going after him. It's not like they are trying to sign anyone else. Maybe they just don't want to be bothered knowing we'll match.

I wonder how much we're offering him that he hasn't signed?

S&T for MCW?
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Post#510 » by ImNotMcDiSwear » Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:23 pm

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DarkHawk wrote:With the Bucks about to sign Bayless, who are our main competitors for Bledsoe? Philly I imagine?
He actually would fit perfectly there. Kinda stunned they aren't going after him. It's not like they are trying to sign anyone else. Maybe they just don't want to be bothered knowing we'll match.

I wonder how much we're offering him that he hasn't signed?

S&T for MCW?


One of those rare proposals that both sides would reject. :wink:
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Post#511 » by sunsbum » Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:24 pm

I think EB's agent is being taken to the cleaner's and his inexperience is really shining. I mean seriously, you think its hard to make contract decisions for LBJ the best basketball player on the planet, but when you've got an injury ridden yet max potential point guard with an ever shrinking market, lets see how good you really are. Grade F-
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Post#512 » by Cash » Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:24 pm

DarkHawk wrote:With the Bucks about to sign Bayless, who are our main competitors for Bledsoe? Philly I imagine?
He actually would fit perfectly there. Kinda stunned they aren't going after him. It's not like they are trying to sign anyone else. Maybe they just don't want to be bothered knowing we'll match.

I wonder how much we're offering him that he hasn't signed?


It is surprising that no one's signed him to an offer sheet yet, and no one seems to have even been rumored to have strong interest yet. It might speak to the depth of PG around the league. Teams are will to take max or near-max gambles for wings like Hayward or Parsons, but not for a PG like Bledsoe because the league is loaded at PG.
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Post#513 » by ShawnBronald » Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:38 pm

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Post#514 » by SSOL » Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:51 pm

Thompson insurance?
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Post#515 » by NaturalBuns » Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:57 pm

That deal for hornets is good.
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Post#516 » by Qwigglez » Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:57 pm

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Post#517 » by ShawnBronald » Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:59 pm

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I can't tell if he's being serious or sarcastic (or a little of both). Seems like he meant to include an article or something.
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Post#518 » by SILERtheDEFILER » Wed Jul 16, 2014 8:11 pm

He's serious. He's just dirt poor
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Post#519 » by bwgood77 » Wed Jul 16, 2014 8:11 pm

magoo wrote:I don't understand the term "max contract." It certainly can't mean the maximum. From what I read, Bosh signed a 5yr/118million "max" contract. Carmelo signed a 5yr/124million contract that was less than the 129 max he could have signed for. I think they came from the same draft, and they both signed with their current teams. What's the deal? Does the "max" number depend on the contract they just finished- as Carmelo is coming off of a max and Bosh is not?


That is what I thought. I was thinking Bosh was making less the year before and could only start out at 105% of his previous salary, but this reads the opposite.

A free agent's maximum salary in the first year of a new contract is never less than 105% of his salary in the last year of his previous contract. For example, a ten-year veteran free agent who most recently earned $20 million has a maximum salary of at least $21 million, even if that is above the league-wide maximum. A free agent does not need to remain with the same team in order to receive 105% of his previous salary, although the team that signs him is subject to the same salary cap restrictions as with any other free agent.


That quote above is from here http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q16 which has a chart of max salaries.

From what I just looked at and read, it seems like Bosh should have been able to get the 5 year, $129 million contract that Melo could have gotten.

There are max salaries based on how long you have been in the league. 0-6 years, you can get 25% of the cap, 7-9 years 30% of the cap, 10+ years, 35% of the cap (seems like both Bosh and Melo fit here, and Kobe can even go higher because of the 105% thing).

Also, there is a chart here http://basketball.realgm.com/nba/info/salary_cap that shows all the max salaries, minimum salaries, different exception amounts, etc.
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Re: The One And Only Offseason Thread 3 

Post#520 » by ruiner » Wed Jul 16, 2014 8:16 pm

McD just needs to sit next to Flip and hammer out a Love deal

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