do you feel the rebuild was cut too short?

[KI-DW-TT-AB]

I wonder if anybody has the data to what NBA team has the most #1 overall picks on one team playing simultaneously. Off the top of my head, Cleveland come to mind because of their recent lottery luck, but I have a feeling that there's another team among the 30 that might have more

Cleveland would be it. Irving, Bennett, and Wiggins.

87-88 Lakers
KAJ, Magic, James Worthy, Mychal Thompson

btw had you continued your rebuild this year you would've guaranteed yourself this pick before the Cavs winning made it go out of protection.

[Eoghan]

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I still maintain that we should've tanked this year. Al was still a bad signing and if our youngins don't start turning corners soon we'll be a treadmill team. We overachieved last year thanks to health, a rookie coach being good, and most of the East tanking or being unlucky.

If Cho was a better drafter we'd be way farther along in terms of sustainable success by now. You can't really deny that Cho has been pretty mediocre on draft day.

WTF THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!!!!!


But for real though, just out of curiosity, what is your prediction on where we would have landed in the lottery if we tanked, assuming we had a similar season health-wise? Because we would still have had a good rookie coach and a tanking East in either situation.

That's tough to say. I do acknowledge the possibility that we couldn't have out tanked many of those teams, maybe even still make the playoffs without Al Jefferson. I think it's reasonable that we would have at least kept our pick and if we had our pick plus the Detroit pick, we would have had a good chance of trading up or at least walking away with a Smart/Vonleh duo, worst case scenario.

Warning: Homers do not read

Spoiler:

I still maintain that we should've tanked this year. Al was still a bad signing and if our youngins don't start turning corners soon we'll be a treadmill team. We overachieved last year thanks to health, a rookie coach being good, and most of the East tanking or being unlucky.

If Cho was a better drafter we'd be way farther along in terms of sustainable success by now. You can't really deny that Cho has been pretty mediocre on draft day.

This is not a surprising response from you.

Nor is this from you. Thanks for contributing.

[EwingSweatsALot]

Can we all agree that a rebuild is pointless if you remain stagnant or even fall back by not continuously trying to achieve a better team? You have to continue to get better, and so far this offseason hasn't shown that we are doing that.

[KI-DW-TT-AB]

Can we all agree that a rebuild is pointless if you remain stagnant or even fall back by not continuously trying to achieve a better team? You have to continue to get better, and so far this offseason hasn't shown that we are doing that.

I disagree, sure you haven't done much in free agency but at least you dodged a Hayward bullet

[yosemiteben]

Deep breath everyone.

[Eoghan]

Can we all agree that a rebuild is pointless if you remain stagnant or even fall back by not continuously trying to achieve a better team? You have to continue to get better, and so far this offseason hasn't shown that we are doing that.

All of the Big Al nut huggers need to at least consider that Rich Cho and the FO have royally screwed up this rebuild if we leave this off-season with only Brian Roberts, Marvin Wallace, a project big in Vonleh and PJ "Thugnificent" Hairston, while losing McRoberts because:

A) We cut the rebuild too short. Imagine getting Vonleh and someone like LaVine, McDermott, Stauskas, etc had we not signed Al and possibly kept our pick.

B) We're wasting the prime of Jefferson's career by surrounding him with projects and overpaid role players.

C) Kemba and others are just as likely to get mad at our FO's incompetence and leave in FA for better teams.

We're pretty much treading water right now while the East is getting better. And don't give me that, "We're gonna sign Durant in 2016" malarkey. Charlotte has never landed a FA of that caliber and the odds of it happening are infinitely lesser than having a top 5 pick turn into a franchise player.

Paid for by the Society of Hornets for Intentional Tanking or ****.

[Liver_Pooty]

Can we all agree that a rebuild is pointless if you remain stagnant or even fall back by not continuously trying to achieve a better team? You have to continue to get better, and so far this offseason hasn't shown that we are doing that.

All of the Big Al nut huggers need to at least consider that Rich Cho and the FO have royally screwed up this rebuild if we leave this off-season with only Brian Roberts, Marvin Wallace, a project big in Vonleh and PJ "Thugnificent" Hairston, while losing McRoberts because:

A) We cut the rebuild too short. Imagine getting Vonleh and someone like LaVine, McDermott, Stauskas, etc had we not signed Al and possibly kept our pick.

B) We're wasting the prime of Jefferson's career by surrounding him with projects and overpaid role players.

C) Kemba and others are just as likely to get mad at our FO's incompetence and leave in FA for better teams.

We're pretty much treading water right now while the East is getting better. And don't give me that, "We're gonna sign Durant in 2016" malarkey. Charlotte has never landed a FA of that caliber and the odds of it happening are infinitely lesser than having a top 5 pick turn into a franchise player.

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Unless we sign or make a trade of significance I agree

[Eoghan]

Unless we sign or make a trade of significance I agree

Whew! I was hoping my post would jinx them into signing Lance. Charlotte might actually do something this year.

[Liver_Pooty]

Unless we sign or make a trade of significance I agree

Whew! I was hoping my post would jinx them into signing Lance. Charlotte might actually do something this year.

Thank God.

[HornetJail]

There is no possible way you can say we've messed up our future now. Without Jefferson, there's no chance in hell we sign Lance Stephenson. Some of the young guys aren't quite where we thought they'd be, and a lineup of

Bismack
Vonleh/Zeller
MKG/Taylor
Henderson/Hairston
Kemba

would be going absolutely nowhere even with a second top 10 pick in 2014 unless we truly lucked out in the lottery and got Wiggins or something.

I'll admit to being slightly skeptical of the Big Al move knowing he'd push us well out of reach for Wiggins, but it was a year to build up our reputation as a legit team in the league. That, plus the rebrand, the lucky bounce we got with the Detroit pick, and the Stephenson pickup- we are in a better position than I would have ever imagined for 2014-15. If you told me in the middle of the 7-win season that we would be three years away from having homecourt advantage in the first round of the playoffs, I would have called you insane, and now that's a real chance.

[Dancingpanda]

I think this rebuild is exactly where it was meant to be, rebuilds take 4-5 seasons? we are right on track.

[HornetJail]

I think this rebuild is exactly where it was meant to be, rebuilds take 4-5 seasons? we are right on track.

Rebuilds should never take 4-5 seasons. I think the rebuild is done. We're now trying to win as much as we can, while making sure we don't torpedo our future like Brooklyn. We have the talent to compete, now it's just the task of making sure the talent stays together and continues to progress. I'd say the actual "rebuilding" ended when Clifford and Big Al were brought in. Last season was the transition period that every "rebuilding" team has to go through before being actually "competitive".

There's no reason a rebuild should take 5 years if a team is managed well. The rebuild started with the firing of Larry Brown and the Gerald Wallace trade in the middle of the 2010-11 season, and it ended in the 2013 offseason. That's only 2 1/2 years, and the only remaining member from that entire roster in 2013-14 was Henderson, who is likely the odd man out on our roster now.

Our front office has done an impressive job with this team. We may not have nailed every draft pick, but we're looking like a scary team next year. Imagine how we look if Bismack and Cody makes strides next season, and MKG develops his offensive game. I am very, very excited, and I'm glad to say that I'll be in a position to attend more Hornets games next season.

[Dancingpanda]

I think this rebuild is exactly where it was meant to be, rebuilds take 4-5 seasons? we are right on track.

Rebuilds should never take 4-5 seasons. I think the rebuild is done. We're now trying to win as much as we can, while making sure we don't torpedo our future like Brooklyn. We have the talent to compete, now it's just the task of making sure the talent stays together and continues to progress. I'd say the actual "rebuilding" ended when Clifford and Big Al were brought in. Last season was the transition period that every "rebuilding" team has to go through before being actually "competitive".

There's no reason a rebuild should take 5 years if a team is managed well. The rebuild started with the firing of Larry Brown and the Gerald Wallace trade in the middle of the 2010-11 season, and it ended in the 2013 offseason. That's only 2 1/2 years, and the only remaining member from that entire roster in 2013-14 was Henderson, who is likely the odd man out on our roster now.

Our front office has done an impressive job with this team. We may not have nailed every draft pick, but we're looking like a scary team next year. Imagine how we look if Bismack and Cody makes strides next season, and MKG develops his offensive game. I am very, very excited, and I'm glad to say that I'll be in a position to attend more Hornets games next season.

I guess i just View "rebuilding" as every step until your actually ready to seriously compete. I viewed last season as a rebuilding year in which we also made the playoffs and this off season as the the end because we now have the pieces to legitimately compete for top spots in the east.

I agree we have one hell of a front office to be able to put this type of team together in such a small market. Its a great time to be a Hornets Fan

[freakon0mics]

I think this rebuild is exactly where it was meant to be, rebuilds take 4-5 seasons? we are right on track.

I think on average a good rebuild should be 2-3 years and then the team is in a building stage for another 2 more years. We started the demolition after the 2010 season and started the rebuild process in 2011. It's been 3 years now and we are in building mode. Looks like we are in the right track.

[KI-DW-TT-AB]

Slam dunk on that Stephenson signing guys, love what you're doing.

Nobody could've predicted anyone getting this guy at 9m per just few weeks ago, let alone Charlotte, but, there you have it.

Between Hornets, Cavs, Wiz, Bulls with Rose coming back & Toronto's sudden success the east is looking really exciting.