Fake Trade Thread 2014-15

[Elden Payton]

Neal is and older, smaller, less athletic, worse chucker with no upside. I don't know why wed give away Hairston without seeing what he can be in order to keep someone we know is a career scrub. I want to move Hendo and Neal and resign CDR or at least move Neal, in which case we probably wouldn't resign CDR.

Neal at least can play PG and Clifford values flexibility as a commodity.

Neal is terrible as a PG. He can only play PG in the sense that he is a bit undersized as a SG so sometimes hes better off guarding opposing PGs. He doesn't really have any skills or the mentality to play PG.

But at least he affords us the flexibility.

He can play third string PG no problems, and would provide the spacing.

[Elden Payton]

Beginning to agree about Hairston, he didn't shoot all that well from 3 in the D League last year either, unless you consider 35 or 36% solid. Hes not a shooter, and doesn't even look much like a scorer. Id still keep him around though to see how he develops.

He's a shooter, first, second and third.

Not very good at it though and I heard that cancer spreads.

Trade him now imo.

I'd like to keep Hairston, keep him as 3rd stringer aka bench fodder, which should give him a reality check and make him want to work his ass off. He isn't the God given beast of a basketball player he thinks he is, and hes going to soon realize that if he hasn't already.

The NBA has a habit of exposing just how limited certain players are.

I understand that Hairston is a one trick pony, at least we need that trick I suppose.

[BeesWax]

Hairston is a chucker, he's got a good shot but I'd rather we thin out the SG position and get flexibility at the PG spot.

Sign some shooters for cheap from the available FA pool.

Well then if we have to sign another shooter we thicken up the SG spot again. The best scenario is to move an older SG like Hendo or Neal and see what we can get. I like Ennis but it is not worth it when we have to replace who we trade again anyway. Now if Phoenix wants a SG to help for a playoff push Neal fits that option. My biggest issue is I am not sure how Henderson takes to the bench.

CDR can play the 2 and 3.

I imagine he'd be back if we want him to be.

Move Hendo and Neal and bring back CDR. I would love that.

[Elden Payton]

Well then if we have to sign another shooter we thicken up the SG spot again. The best scenario is to move an older SG like Hendo or Neal and see what we can get. I like Ennis but it is not worth it when we have to replace who we trade again anyway. Now if Phoenix wants a SG to help for a playoff push Neal fits that option. My biggest issue is I am not sure how Henderson takes to the bench.

CDR can play the 2 and 3.

I imagine he'd be back if we want him to be.

Move Hendo and Neal and bring back CDR. I would love that.

I'd love that!

Not sure moving Hendo is going to be easy.

Definitely has more value than some people would try to have us believe, but his value is as neutral as it gets.

[Braggins]

Neal at least can play PG and Clifford values flexibility as a commodity.

Neal is terrible as a PG. He can only play PG in the sense that he is a bit undersized as a SG so sometimes hes better off guarding opposing PGs. He doesn't really have any skills or the mentality to play PG.

But at least he affords us the flexibility.

He can play third string PG no problems, and would provide the spacing.

Not really, he is flat out terrible at PG. Lance can spell Kemba at PG if needed and will literally always be the better option than Neal. Neal is completely obsolete on this roster. He is our worst or second worst SG (he might be better than JT but maybe not) and the worst of all the people that can possibly play PG. Neal is just terrible. He barely got run at PG last year when Ridnour was our main backup. There is no reason at this point that we should have to endure all the terrible aspects of his game, most notably his atrocious defense.

[Elden Payton]

Neal is terrible as a PG. He can only play PG in the sense that he is a bit undersized as a SG so sometimes hes better off guarding opposing PGs. He doesn't really have any skills or the mentality to play PG.

But at least he affords us the flexibility.

He can play third string PG no problems, and would provide the spacing.

Not really, he is flat out terrible at PG. Lance can spell Kemba at PG if needed and will literally always be the better option than Neal. Neal is completely obsolete on this roster. He is our worst or second worst SG (he might be better than JT but maybe not) and the worst of all the people that can possibly play PG.

I don't disagree for the most part, but Neal has played that role for the Spurs before, so there is value in it imo.

[Liver_Pooty]

Henderson is going to have alot of value as an expiring the season after next. Teams are going to be trying to clear cap room like hell for the summer of 2016, and the salary cap expanding.

Which is why we have all these 2 year deals with options and such. Cho knows what hes doing.

[mrknowitall215]

I think it would be relatively easy for Cho to move Gary Neal if he shopped him around a bit. I've encounter a lot of fans from opposing teams very interested in trading for Neal, but not at all enthused by Gerald Henderson

[BeesWax]

But at least he affords us the flexibility.

He can play third string PG no problems, and would provide the spacing.

Not really, he is flat out terrible at PG. Lance can spell Kemba at PG if needed and will literally always be the better option than Neal. Neal is completely obsolete on this roster. He is our worst or second worst SG (he might be better than JT but maybe not) and the worst of all the people that can possibly play PG.

I don't disagree for the most part, but Neal has played that role for the Spurs before, so there is value in it imo.

I think if I remember correctly he never really ran point on offense for the Spurs. He only played defense there while Diaw ran the offense. He is terrible running point but can defend there while another player runs point.

[Braggins]

I don't ever want to see Neal on the court and he is pretty much completely riding that little fluke of a streak he had in the finals.

[MasterIchiro]

Fans of the Warriors wanted Henderson if they sent out Klay Thompson for Kevin Love. That's the only proof of any fan interest in him I've ever seen. And it makes sense because the Warriors could hide him with range shooters all over the map Love, Curry, Barnes. It's ridiculous. They have such a good team, gonna be better with Livingston.

[Elden Payton]

Not really, he is flat out terrible at PG. Lance can spell Kemba at PG if needed and will literally always be the better option than Neal. Neal is completely obsolete on this roster. He is our worst or second worst SG (he might be better than JT but maybe not) and the worst of all the people that can possibly play PG.

I don't disagree for the most part, but Neal has played that role for the Spurs before, so there is value in it imo.

I think if I remember correctly he never really ran point on offense for the Spurs. He only played defense there while Diaw ran the offense. He is terrible running point but can defend there while another player runs point.

I'm not trying to claim he's good at the point, only that he can play there and will provide spacing from the position.

[Braggins]

I don't disagree for the most part, but Neal has played that role for the Spurs before, so there is value in it imo.

I think if I remember correctly he never really ran point on offense for the Spurs. He only played defense there while Diaw ran the offense. He is terrible running point but can defend there while another player runs point.

I'm not trying to claim he's good at the point, only that he can play there and will provide spacing from the position.

He is terrible at everything except shooting. Just because he provides #spacing doesn't mean anything when he also provides #awful everything else. There are randoms at rec league that can provide spacing and are small enough to only be able to guard PGs. Doesn't mean they should be played.

[Elden Payton]

I think if I remember correctly he never really ran point on offense for the Spurs. He only played defense there while Diaw ran the offense. He is terrible running point but can defend there while another player runs point.

I'm not trying to claim he's good at the point, only that he can play there and will provide spacing from the position.

He is terrible at everything except shooting. Just because he provides #spacing doesn't mean anything when he also provides #awful everything else. There are randoms at rec league that can provide spacing and are small enough to only be able to guard PGs. Doesn't mean they should be played.

Well that is your opinion.

Spacing is the one thing we need at this point.

I suppose we could just play Hairston or Hendo as third point.

[BeesWax]

I don't disagree for the most part, but Neal has played that role for the Spurs before, so there is value in it imo.

I think if I remember correctly he never really ran point on offense for the Spurs. He only played defense there while Diaw ran the offense. He is terrible running point but can defend there while another player runs point.

I'm not trying to claim he's good at the point, only that he can play there and will provide spacing from the position.

I guess my point is he really can't play there unless you have a player at a different spot who can be your primary ball handler. I guess now with Lance he could play some as the PG, who plays SG on offense, while Lance ran the offense as the defacto PG.

[Braggins]

I'm not trying to claim he's good at the point, only that he can play there and will provide spacing from the position.

He is terrible at everything except shooting. Just because he provides #spacing doesn't mean anything when he also provides #awful everything else. There are randoms at rec league that can provide spacing and are small enough to only be able to guard PGs. Doesn't mean they should be played.

Well that is your opinion.

Spacing is the one thing we need at this point.

I suppose we could just play Hairston or Hendo as third point.

Roberts is a better ball handler and a good shooter and much smarter. Lance can play some backup point and is a solid shooter. Hopefully we'll make some kind of move that allows to resign CDR and Hairston projects to be a pretty good shooter. Our spacing issues aren't so bad or important that we need Neal. He is just at the very bottom of the totem pole in my opinion.

[Elden Payton]

I think if I remember correctly he never really ran point on offense for the Spurs. He only played defense there while Diaw ran the offense. He is terrible running point but can defend there while another player runs point.

I'm not trying to claim he's good at the point, only that he can play there and will provide spacing from the position.

I guess my point is he really can't play there unless you have a player at a different spot who can be your primary ball handler. I guess now with Lance he could play some as the PG, who plays SG on offense, while Lance ran the offense as the defacto PG.

My belief is that Neal could provide us minutes in the pinch whilst adding spacing.

Would be good next to Lance, who can be ball dominant.

[Elden Payton]

He is terrible at everything except shooting. Just because he provides #spacing doesn't mean anything when he also provides #awful everything else. There are randoms at rec league that can provide spacing and are small enough to only be able to guard PGs. Doesn't mean they should be played.

Well that is your opinion.

Spacing is the one thing we need at this point.

I suppose we could just play Hairston or Hendo as third point.

Roberts is a better ball handler and a good shooter and much smarter. Lance can play some backup point and is a solid shooter. Hopefully we'll make some kind of move that allows to resign CDR and Hairston projects to be a pretty good shooter. Our spacing issues aren't so bad or important that we need Neal. He is just at the very bottom of the totem pole in my opinion.

I'm talking about Neal playing behind roberts, literally at the bottom of the totum pole.

[BeesWax]

I'm not trying to claim he's good at the point, only that he can play there and will provide spacing from the position.

I guess my point is he really can't play there unless you have a player at a different spot who can be your primary ball handler. I guess now with Lance he could play some as the PG, who plays SG on offense, while Lance ran the offense as the defacto PG.

My belief is that Neal could provide us minutes in the pinch whilst adding spacing.

Would be good next to Lance, who can be ball dominant.

After watching him play and dribble and pass the only way he could provide minutes there on our team is if Lance plays with him and controls the ball. He has zero PG skills and is only a shooter. We have to have someone else on the court who can run point if you play him at PG or our offense would completely collapse.

[MasterIchiro]

Hairston is a spot up shooter right now. He can't dribble like Neal and he can't pass worth ****. Hairston is the cameo guy imo. Neal stays for his scoring streaks and Henderson goes for his lack of shooting/spacing.