NBA ChoK16 - the Rich Cho Thread

[Dancingpanda]

I'm blasting him because none of this was by design. What were the Cavs chances of bumping the Pistons down to 9? What were the chances Vonleh would fall from top 5 to 9? What were the chances Houston would let go of Parsons in favor of Ariza? Cho deserves none of this credit, at all. He failed to pull of a trade of henderson _ 24 for Afflalo, he failed to trade Henderson. He had a year to prepare for this offseason and needed an inordinate amount of luck to not completely strike out. What was the plan if Lance signed in Dallas? With Hayward and Parsons off the table and Jordan recently stating how they planned to bring in another 'superstar' or big name player? I'd really like to know what it was.

unless...this was his plan all along
Bro's got a Crystal Ball

Well thank God so many things came together for us in such short time, but I don't feel entirely comfortable with Cho as a GM. He's fundamentally sound and brought this team to respectability. I just feel we need something more to get us to the next level. I will be looking to see if he can move Gerald Henderson and how he handles the PF position. I'm also curious to see how he intends to add more shooting/spacing.

I like your speculation/idea you posted earlier (cant remember the thread) that the lack of interest and then the quick signing of lance could be cho working on finding a suitor for a Henderson trade

[Vanderbilt_Grad]

Cho isn’t magic and isn’t perfect, but he’s done his job so far.

It wasn’t luck that the Hornets had a high draft pick this year. That pick was there because of smart Cho trades. I’m sure that when the trades were initially made that he expected the Portland pick to be a high one and the Detroit pick to be lower, but the fact that it was the reverse is just how the cookie crumbles. Luck worked both for and against him in this draft.

[MasterIchiro]

unless...this was his plan all along
Bro's got a Crystal Ball

Well thank God so many things came together for us in such short time, but I don't feel entirely comfortable with Cho as a GM. He's fundamentally sound and brought this team to respectability. I just feel we need something more to get us to the next level. I will be looking to see if he can move Gerald Henderson and how he handles the PF position. I'm also curious to see how he intends to add more shooting/spacing.

I like your speculation/idea you posted earlier (cant remember the thread) that the lack of interest and then the quick signing of lance could be cho working on finding a suitor for a Henderson trade

Well another theory is that he may want to keep Henderson in case Lance implodes or falls out of line. And then watch Henderson in his new enforcer role get all territorial and then the friction increases in the clubhouse. I hope Cho had been working on trades regardless because it seems Lance was leaning Dallas until Houston declined to match on Parsons. The fact they didn't match was really puzzling and could not possibly have been predicted.

[MasterIchiro]

Cho isn’t magic and isn’t perfect, but he’s done his job so far.

It wasn’t luck that the Hornets had a high draft pick this year. That pick was there because of smart Cho trades. I’m sure that when the trades were initially made that he expected the Portland pick to be a high one and the Detroit pick to be lower, but the fact that it was the reverse is just how the cookie crumbles. Luck worked both for and against him in this draft.

I'd say he's mediocre. But with luck in play, even a select few mediocre GM's can get labeled 'genius'. He's not a disaster but had Lance signed in Dallas his ass would be in a sling right now.

[-Ian-]

Wow at the irrational hate of some people here towards Cho.

[Dancingpanda]

Well thank God so many things came together for us in such short time, but I don't feel entirely comfortable with Cho as a GM. He's fundamentally sound and brought this team to respectability. I just feel we need something more to get us to the next level. I will be looking to see if he can move Gerald Henderson and how he handles the PF position. I'm also curious to see how he intends to add more shooting/spacing.

I like your speculation/idea you posted earlier (cant remember the thread) that the lack of interest and then the quick signing of lance could be cho working on finding a suitor for a Henderson trade

Well another theory is that he may want to keep Henderson in case Lance implodes or falls out of line. And then watch Henderson in his new enforcer role get all territorial and then the friction increases in the clubhouse. I hope Cho had been working on trades regardless because it seems Lance was leaning Dallas until Houston declined to match on Parsons. The fact they didn't match was really puzzling and could not possibly have been predicted.

Can the Rockets make a run at a Rondo trade?

[trins]

I'd say he's mediocre. But with luck in play, even a select few mediocre GM's can get labeled 'genius'. He's not a disaster but had Lance signed in Dallas his ass would be in a sling right now.

Even Morey who was labeled as top 3 GM prior to the offseason made a lot of mistakes. Even top GMs look trash when they don't get anything they want. He traded Lin for nothing, Lost Parsons when he could've kept him for 1 more year and lost Asik for nothing but a 1st round draft pick from an improving and healthy NOP and what did he get for them? Ariza. Morey is looking like a top 20 GM with these moves rather than top 3.

I mean why would you want Rich Cho fired for being "Lucky"? This is his 3rd or 4th year as Charlotte's GM, during his tenure he improved this team from a team that was not going anywhere, to a team that has brighter future than most franchises.

Cho has already shown what he could do with his GM skills. I would give him a few more years than judge him for his "Lucky" off-season moves. I mean if Cho was fired, We would have an unknown person as potential GM that could wreck the whole team with his moves. Who knows if Cho was fired, Jordan would probably get someone like Barkley or bring back Higgins to be our GM.

Rich Cho made the Bobcats/Hornets from being the laughing stock of the NBA to one of the teams that has a bright future ahead. And to think he did that in just 3 or 4 years of being Charlotte's GM. Luck is a big part of being a GM, If it was purely skills, Morey would've gotten Bosh/Melo.

[mrknowitall215]

I'm just happy that the Jazz matched the Hayward offer sheet. Utah is the real Charlotte Hornets' offseason MVP

[MasterIchiro]

Lance - 9
Hayward - 16

What is wrong with this picture?

[mrknowitall215]

Lance - 9
Hayward - 16

What is wrong with this picture?

A whole lot...mostly perception

[trins]

I like your speculation/idea you posted earlier (cant remember the thread) that the lack of interest and then the quick signing of lance could be cho working on finding a suitor for a Henderson trade

Well another theory is that he may want to keep Henderson in case Lance implodes or falls out of line. And then watch Henderson in his new enforcer role get all territorial and then the friction increases in the clubhouse. I hope Cho had been working on trades regardless because it seems Lance was leaning Dallas until Houston declined to match on Parsons. The fact they didn't match was really puzzling and could not possibly have been predicted.

Can the Rockets make a run at a Rondo trade?

No, their only asset is Harden, Howard, Ariza and Pelicans first round ( I don't consider Beverly as an asset, as he can only defend and spot up, he doesn't have the vision or the ball handling ability to be a true starter as PG ). Harden and Howard are untouchables, so I doubt Danny Ainge wants Pelicans and Beverly for Rondo. They can't trade their own picks either because of the no successive draft pick trade clauses.

[Elden Payton]

Cho is a top tier GM.

People thinking they could do better are hilarious.

[jakenc]

Really pleased thus far with this offseason. Not exactly overjoyed by the Marvin and Roberts signings, but when you look at what's available he could've done far worse. The Lance signing is wonderful. Can't believe we got him at that price. I'd give the offseason a solid B at this point. If we manage to trade Henderson for a decent player I'll immediately up it to an A+.

[gamer4Life]

Wonder which moves are Cho's and which aren't. Seems that the media is giving Jordan the credit for the Stephenson signing as are some on this forum.

Was Marvin Williams Cho? Was Al Jefferson?

Maybe it's better to assume all of it is Cho's doing, with input from Jordan and the coaches.

[yosemiteben]

Maybe it's better to assume all of it is Cho's doing, with input from Jordan and the coaches.

That's the approach I choose to take. Others *ahem* prefer to assume the opposite - that Cho has only made bad decisions and some combination of luck and Jordan bailed him out.

[mrknowitall215]

Wonder which moves are Cho's and which aren't. Seems that the media is giving Jordan the credit for the Stephenson signing as are some on this forum.

Was Marvin Williams Cho? Was Al Jefferson?

Maybe it's better to assume all of it is Cho's doing, with input from Jordan and the coaches.

The truth shall come to the light

[Liver_Pooty]

Why are people hating on Cho so much? He has done pretty damn good since he became our GM. If you want to look at a horrid off season, look at the almighty Morey in Houston.

Now thats terrible.

[Eoghan]

Rich Cho crunching the numbers

[mrknowitall215]

Why are people hating on Cho so much? He has done pretty damn good since he became our GM. If you want to look at a horrid off season, look at the almighty Morey in Houston.

Now thats terrible.

I'm not hating on Cho. I'm just giving credit where I think it's due on the Stephenson signing. Is that such a bad thing. I surely wouldn't want to be applauding Cho on that particular signing if I'm under the belief that Jordan had to urge him to do it, and set up the meeting so that he could meet Stephenson face-to-face since he advocated it. As of now, nobody know exactly what happened as a known fact, but the auspicious nature of it point to Jordan being the driving force behind signing Stephenson

However, I've gave Cho a lot of credit on draft day, with the trades that created more cap space and brought back assets in future 2nd rounders. I just happen to give credit where 'I' think it's due and likewise 'I' give criticism/suspicion where I think it's due

I'm not a Cho hater. I'm just unsure on how to view him since I haven't exactly been 100% behind his every move. I'm not saying that I'm always right, because I'm wrong (very seldom ) sometimes or that I would do a better job than Cho if I were in his shoes because I understand that it's a extremely difficult job, but this is a board that allow me to be a fan as well as a critic, so you can 'bet your liver' that I'm going to cheer for the things that I like and critique the thing that I don't

[Elden Payton]

Why are people hating on Cho so much? He has done pretty damn good since he became our GM. If you want to look at a horrid off season, look at the almighty Morey in Houston.

Now thats terrible.

Anything good=MJ

Anything bad=Cho

i believe in one man.

CHORDAN#23