The One And Only Offseason Thread 3

BurningHeart · Post #761 » by **BurningHeart** » Thu Jul 17, 2014 10:06 pm

I don't care if the Suns can get their pick, I'll be rooting for the Lakers to go 0-82. They can all DIAF.

Daredevilish · Post #762 » by **Daredevilish** » Thu Jul 17, 2014 10:09 pm

BurningHeart wrote:I don't care if the Suns can get their pick, I'll be rooting for the Lakers to go 0-82. They can all DIAF.

How about instead they are good-yet-bad enough to give us the pick this year and then next year go 0-82?

Dr Manute · Post #763 » by **Dr Manute** » Thu Jul 17, 2014 10:12 pm

If he takes the QO, then I would make him back-up Thomas. If he bitches and pouts then he can back-up Ennis.

NaturalBuns · Post #764 » by **NaturalBuns** » Thu Jul 17, 2014 10:15 pm

Dr Manute wrote:If he takes the QO, then I would make him back-up Thomas. If he bitches and pouts then he can back-up Ennis.

Won't change is money
He would be a 25 yr old pg entering his prime.
Actually would be helping him as he avoids injury.

another option I see playing out is a 2yr Max.
So he can cash out on new tv deal

ShawnBronald · Post #765 » by **ShawnBronald** » Thu Jul 17, 2014 10:16 pm

[tweet]https://twitter.com/BrightSideSun/status/489892724493918208[/tweet]

Also......
[tweet]https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/489895211896537089[/tweet]

Post #766 » by **bwgood77** » Thu Jul 17, 2014 10:17 pm

Bledsoe will not take the QO.

One part of me thinks Milwaukee will unload Ilyasova to create the space and give him the max. JDLAW mentioned this is risky, but I think they want to play the Greek and Parker anyway. I don't know if they'd have to give a pick to unload Ilyasova. If they did have to give up a pick, I doubt they'd do it. Signing Bayless may be an indication they won't go after Bledsoe but I don't know.

The other part of me thinks maybe since they are SO young with Parker, the Greek, Henson, etc, that they don't want to sink big money into another guy that could be injury prone and has only started less than half a season after sinking big money into Sanders last year. They likely have an uphill road right now and are going young, so is it worth spending that much money on one guy? A max offer to an injury prone pg when you are rebuilding anyway?

But then again, these new owners may be under the impression they can be competitive quickly with the young guys....new owners seem to want to make a big splash fast and believe they can, so it's a tough call.

Less cap space for Milwaukee now...[tweet]https://twitter.com/cf_gardner/status/489864568152133634[/tweet]

Still could create max space with Ilyasova trade somewhere for pick. I don't know if Houston would take him or not...they did carve out all the cap space for a stretch 4, but this would eat into next summer's cap space.

BobbieL · Post #767 » by **BobbieL** » Thu Jul 17, 2014 10:20 pm

NaturalBuns wrote:
Dr Manute wrote:If he takes the QO, then I would make him back-up Thomas. If he bitches and pouts then he can back-up Ennis.

Won't change is money
He would be a 25 yr old pg entering his prime.
Actually would be helping him as he avoids injury.

another option I see playing out is a 2yr Max.
So he can cash out on new tv deal

I am guessing he is not going to leave 40m on the table because that is a loss of $10m this year that he will have to make up next year the next three years - meaning a three year 40m deal - or Parsons money.

It will all work itself out. Eric has the right to try to get as much as possible and until he gets another offer though, he is kind of SOL.

SSOL · Post #768 » by **SSOL** » Thu Jul 17, 2014 10:25 pm

ruiner wrote:I'm sorry but I'm not as patient as you guys. Whole wait for a superstar or star to come around while collecting assets and your team develops, gets older is like watching paint dry, not fun regardless of love for the game, and this whole system makes me sick.

Was last season not fun?

matt131 · Post #769 » by **matt131** » Thu Jul 17, 2014 10:26 pm

[tweet]https://twitter.com/Chris_Broussard/status/489898641633849344[/tweet]

Other than Philly, I think 12mil a year is about the best he can get from any other team. The guy should be happy with 12mil a year. That's more than decent.

MilotheSlayer · Post #770 » by **MilotheSlayer** » Thu Jul 17, 2014 10:26 pm

Am I the only one who thinks that LA will have a sneaky OK team? Other than their SF spot they aren't god awful.

BurningHeart · Post #771 » by **BurningHeart** » Thu Jul 17, 2014 10:27 pm

No you're not. Never, ever, EVER discount the Lakers. Ever.

And Bledsoe wants 5 years, EIGHTY million dollars? Go **** yourself, guy.

Scutt · Post #772 » by **Scutt** » Thu Jul 17, 2014 10:30 pm

Barkley6 wrote:
That system he isnt a fan of led him to a career year last season. Also, as much as he might value those things, it's not like he's playing with Amare and Nash. Dragic is a decent defender, Tucker defends well, Plumlee defends well, Kieff has his moments. We're not an anti-defense team like in the D'Antoni years.

We do have more capable defenders on our current roster than we did in the Nash years I will give you that, but it is more of the philosophy the team is taking that raises eyebrows with me.Our front office is enamored with offense, but our team would be better served with a defensive big. Offense was not our problem in my opinion. We need a big man who can offer rim protection, rebounding, and is also a decent passer. We have one of the best backcourts in the league with Bledsoe and Dragic starting, not to mention Green and Goodwin coming off the bench. Why was our big free agent score another point guard? I know you guys will bring up possible Bledsoe injuries, and having a guard pushing the tempo at all times as justification, but this team has a glaring hole that no one wants to seem to address, it is the elephant in the room so to speak...

We might have the WORST front court in the entire NBA. Suns fans are talking about wanting to make a deep playoff push and our only bigs are Alex Len and Miles Plumlee! I am sorry, but that doesn't make sense. So because we have a great backcourt, it justifies not having ANY legit bigs on the roster? I understand the league is becoming more guard oriented, but shouldn't we be striving for more balance? You need to have a few decent big guys. I don't really have much faith in Len staying healthy consistently and contributing, but I am hoping I am wrong. If I am not, that is a tremendous amount of pressure on Plumlee.

BobbieL · Post #773 » by **BobbieL** » Thu Jul 17, 2014 10:32 pm

MilotheSlayer wrote:Am I the only one who thinks that LA will have a sneaky OK team? Other than their SF spot they aren't god awful.

I think they are moving closer to the 10th pick as opposed to the 1st pick
Kobe
Lin
Young
Hill
Boozer
Randle
Davis
Sacre
Nash
Kelly
Clarkson

Kobe will get them - if healthy - some wins. But unless there are ping pong shenanigans - Suns should be getting a top 10 pick next year. I think this Lakers team is going to be pretty bad - but you never know

BobbieL · Post #774 » by **BobbieL** » Thu Jul 17, 2014 10:34 pm

BurningHeart wrote:No you're not. Never, ever, EVER discount the Lakers. Ever.

And Bledsoe wants 5 years, EIGHTY million dollars? Go **** yourself, guy.

Lakers really shouldhave skipped Melo and maxed on Bledsoe - day 1, minute 1
would have jacked with the Suns

Revived · Post #775 » by **Revived** » Thu Jul 17, 2014 10:35 pm

I saw on Insta that the Kings are one of 4 teams who can acquire Bledsoe to what he wants...I thought they don't have any space and that's why they let Thomas go for the cheaper Collison?

Dr Manute · Post #776 » by **Dr Manute** » Thu Jul 17, 2014 10:36 pm

matt131 wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/Chris_Broussard/status/489898641633849344[/tweet]

Other than Philly, I think 12mil a year is about the best he can get from any other team. The guy should be happy with 12mil a year. That's more than decent.

5 years, $80 million ????? :crazy:

Advise to Bledsoe: Lower your expectations

BobbieL · Post #777 » by **BobbieL** » Thu Jul 17, 2014 10:38 pm

SF88 wrote:I saw on Insta that the Kings are one of 4 teams who can acquire Bledsoe to what he wants...I thought they don't have any space and that's why they let Thomas go for the cheaper Collison?

Pretty sure King are way over the cap

JDLAW · Post #778 » by **JDLAW** » Thu Jul 17, 2014 10:38 pm

matt131 wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/Chris_Broussard/status/489898641633849344[/tweet]

Other than Philly, I think 12mil a year is about the best he can get from any other team. The guy should be happy with 12mil a year. That's more than decent.

If this is close to being true, Bledsoe needs a new agent because Rich Paul is clueless - he cannot get this from anyone except the Suns and they will not give it to him.

Flying Colors · Post #779 » by **Flying Colors** » Thu Jul 17, 2014 10:40 pm

Who the **** does bledsoe think he is

Dr Manute · Post #780 » by **Dr Manute** » Thu Jul 17, 2014 10:42 pm

JDLAW wrote:
matt131 wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/Chris_Broussard/status/489898641633849344[/tweet]

Other than Philly, I think 12mil a year is about the best he can get from any other team. The guy should be happy with 12mil a year. That's more than decent.

If this is close to being true, Bledsoe needs a new agent because Rich Paul is clueless - he cannot get this from anyone except the Suns and they will not give it to him.

I agree. If this is true, Rich Paul is showing that it takes more than being a good friend of LeBron to be a good agent.