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The One And Only Offseason Thread 3

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Re: The One And Only Offseason Thread 3 

Post#861 » by wordsenuff » Fri Jul 18, 2014 12:33 am

Saberestar wrote:
wordsenuff wrote:just scrolling through bledsoe's twitter and he only has 3 favorite tweets, this being one.
[tweet]https://twitter.com/SportsRedneck/status/472198984161693697[/tweet]

5 years for 80 mill ..uh no.

:o wow...not good...not good

Great find Wordsenuff

thank you sir.
i know he's not going to the lakers, or any other team unless we say so, it just irritated me that would be a favorite tweet.
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Re: The One And Only Offseason Thread 3 

Post#862 » by bwgood77 » Fri Jul 18, 2014 12:35 am

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I know Bledsoe and LeBron are supposed BFFs but would Cleveland want two point guards making $16 million a year each? LeBron needs to be surrounded by shooters, not more ballhandlers. I don't think it makes sense for them to trade for him.

I don't think there is any way they can absorb that much salary anyway. And then when Kyrie's contract kicks in next year, they'd be paying four players like $70 million.



Irving/Bledsoe/LeBron/Love/Varejao


It sounds like a fun lineup. But I think LeBron wants as many shooters as possible, and I don't think they need two max ball handling point guards. At this point I wouldn't be upset looking at trade options though.

If we wanted to stick with the double pg lineup with IT off the bench, I might approach Atlanta with something like a deal for Teague and Korver. Reasonable salaries for they do. Teague makes 8 but he had a pretty good year....and if you look at the side by side comparison with Bledsoe, they are not all that far off, but it's a better value and less injury prone.

http://bkref.com/tiny/BMaJW

Then you get the best shooter in the game to spread the floor.

Not saying I'd do something like that, and I'm not sure Atlanta would either, but I'd probably look at all teams.

Problem is I don't think there is much of a market so his asking price is a little crazy.

I know we are all freaking out quite a bit too much as usual. We will hopefully settle where we are now or at 4/50 or something like that. If it ever gets over 4/52 though, I'd hold out well into the season. Personally I'd be tempted to do that now.
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Re: The One And Only Offseason Thread 3 

Post#863 » by bwgood77 » Fri Jul 18, 2014 12:37 am

NTB wrote:Why are you guys keeping Suns involved in that Love trade? Cavs will give Wiggins and get Love, that's all.


I don't understand it either. The only players I'd want in a trade like that are Love and Wiggins (and we obviously are not getting them).

If I was Minnesota though, I'd be asking for Wiggins and Thompson. They kind of need a 4 that can play right now, since they are all vets at the other positions. He won't get the playing time he probably wants or deserves in Cleveland, unless they play him with LeBron and Love.
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Post#864 » by wordsenuff » Fri Jul 18, 2014 12:40 am

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Post#865 » by JTrain » Fri Jul 18, 2014 12:51 am

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Post#866 » by Scubetrolis » Fri Jul 18, 2014 12:52 am

Really hope bledsoe just plays through his contract next year, where he is paid like 3 million or whatever it is. then, when he is inevitably injured next year, his stock will plummet and he can go sign with anyone he wants to and continue his injury plagued career elsewhere.
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Re: The One And Only Offseason Thread 3 

Post#867 » by NoKneeBledsoe » Fri Jul 18, 2014 12:52 am

Wish we would of offered Lance Stephenson 3 year 30 mill

Sign and Trade Bledsoe for something!!
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Post#868 » by bwgood77 » Fri Jul 18, 2014 12:55 am

NoKneeBledsoe wrote:Wish we would of offered Lance Stephenson 3 year 30 mill

Sign and Trade Bledsoe for something!!


If Hibbert was a little quicker and a little bit better at putting the ball in the basket, I'd consider him at this point. He'd certainly be that guy we need inside defensively and would give Len time to be patient with.

Still need to be patient with Bledsoe though. Stand firm where we are and let things play out.
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Re: The One And Only Offseason Thread 3 

Post#869 » by tigerblood » Fri Jul 18, 2014 12:55 am

No way this dude gambles the QO vs. 50M or whatever the suns are offering. If so, kudos to him because he has a super large pair of nuts. May the force be with you.
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Post#870 » by lilfishi22 » Fri Jul 18, 2014 1:00 am

Rich Paul is a joke. How on Earth does their camp have the balls to ask for a $80m/5 year max when they have not received one offer from any team outside of the Suns offer?
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Re: The One And Only Offseason Thread 3 

Post#871 » by sunskerr » Fri Jul 18, 2014 1:06 am

Standard negotiating, people.... Start high, finish somewhere acceptable.
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Post#872 » by sunsbum » Fri Jul 18, 2014 1:07 am

If they are really as far apart as what's being reported I don't expect to see him in a suns uni again
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Post#873 » by sunsbum » Fri Jul 18, 2014 1:10 am

sunskerr wrote:Standard negotiating, people.... Start high, finish somewhere acceptable.

I dunno if being 6 million a year apart is standard. Suns shot him a perfectly respectable offer. Maybe more than he deserves being that he can't stay healthy
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Re: The One And Only Offseason Thread 3 

Post#874 » by Cutter » Fri Jul 18, 2014 1:12 am

bwgood77 wrote:
NoKneeBledsoe wrote:Wish we would of offered Lance Stephenson 3 year 30 mill

Sign and Trade Bledsoe for something!!


If Hibbert was a little quicker and a little bit better at putting the ball in the basket, I'd consider him at this point. He'd certainly be that guy we need inside defensively and would give Len time to be patient with.

Still need to be patient with Bledsoe though. Stand firm where we are and let things play out.

Agree on both Hibbert and patience on Bledsoe.

I realize Hibbert is a plodding behemoth meant for a grinding half court offense. But, I think Hornacek could incorporate him into our fast paced offense. We were at/near the top of the league in fast break points, and very few of those points came from the C position so I don't think he would interfere with the fast break. He's not going to contribute much offensively, but his rim protection makes my mouth water! I doubt we could get him without giving up significant assets though.

As a team we need to be patient with this Bledsoe saga. This is all just his agent trying to get him more money. I really look forward to seeing a Dragic-Bledsoe-Thomas 3 headed beast pressure the $h*t out of teams all game long.
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Post#875 » by bwgood77 » Fri Jul 18, 2014 1:26 am

Cutter wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
NoKneeBledsoe wrote:Wish we would of offered Lance Stephenson 3 year 30 mill

Sign and Trade Bledsoe for something!!


If Hibbert was a little quicker and a little bit better at putting the ball in the basket, I'd consider him at this point. He'd certainly be that guy we need inside defensively and would give Len time to be patient with.

Still need to be patient with Bledsoe though. Stand firm where we are and let things play out.

Agree on both Hibbert and patience on Bledsoe.

I realize Hibbert is a plodding behemoth meant for a grinding half court offense. But, I think Hornacek could incorporate him into our fast paced offense. We were at/near the top of the league in fast break points, and very few of those points came from the C position so I don't think he would interfere with the fast break. He's not going to contribute much offensively, but his rim protection makes my mouth water! I doubt we could get him without giving up significant assets though.

As a team we need to be patient with this Bledsoe saga. This is all just his agent trying to get him more money. I really look forward to seeing a Dragic-Bledsoe-Thomas 3 headed beast pressure the $h*t out of teams all game long.


Oh yeah, for some reason when I wrote that I was thinking they had really wanted him and forgot that was Dragic, so I have no idea if they want Bledsoe. Thinking of Dragic I figured they would easily do that deal, maybe give them Plumlee back. But without him, who knows? They can't be happy with how he played near the end of last season though.

You are right though, we wouldn't REALLY NEED him on offense, but just to be a presence in the middle. He's not a great rebounder either.

I wish there was a good defensive center out there on a team that needed a pg. If Rose' career was done, I'd trade him for Noah....they could just play Pau at center, but I don't know if they'd ever part with Noah and probably not for another injury prone pg wanting the max.
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Re: The One And Only Offseason Thread 3 

Post#876 » by lilfishi22 » Fri Jul 18, 2014 1:26 am

sunskerr wrote:Standard negotiating, people.... Start high, finish somewhere acceptable.

You start somewhere between what you're really worth and the max. You don't go straight for the max. Seems to me Rich Paul doesn't know he's not representing Lebron here, it's Eric Beldsoe and he doesn't command whatever salary he wants like Lebron can.
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Re: The One And Only Offseason Thread 3 

Post#877 » by thamadkant » Fri Jul 18, 2014 1:29 am

They will come to an agreement somewhere around 4 years for 54-55 Million.
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Re: The One And Only Offseason Thread 3 

Post#878 » by Sunsss » Fri Jul 18, 2014 1:31 am

SunsFanSSOL wrote:FYI, Bledsoe is in Phoenix right now. Or at least he was yesterday.

He was seen in the arena? McD and Babby are in Vegas though.
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Re: The One And Only Offseason Thread 3 

Post#879 » by bwgood77 » Fri Jul 18, 2014 1:32 am

lilfishi22 wrote:
sunskerr wrote:Standard negotiating, people.... Start high, finish somewhere acceptable.

You start somewhere between what you're really worth and the max. You don't go straight for the max. Seems to me Rich Paul doesn't know he's not representing Lebron here, it's Eric Beldsoe and he doesn't command whatever salary he wants like Lebron can.


It's ok if they start at the max, but at this point we should stick to where we are...we have already moved up.

4/56 is a robbery and McDonough should be ashamed if he agrees to this without another offer sheet to have to match.
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Re: The One And Only Offseason Thread 3 

Post#880 » by Safety Pickle » Fri Jul 18, 2014 1:33 am

Kind of blows my mind how butthurt people are on this thread about Bledsoe holding out for more cash. It's not like he owes anything to this franchise. He's young and he wants to get paid. Get off his nuts

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