The One And Only Offseason Thread 3

Barkley_34 · Post #881 » by **Barkley_34** » Fri Jul 18, 2014 1:34 am

I think 5 year deal 63-65 m... :-?

Cutter · Post #882 » by **Cutter** » Fri Jul 18, 2014 1:34 am

1UPZ wrote:They will come to an agreement somewhere around 4 years for 54-55 Million.

If so, that's a large overpay by the Suns.

If we got a team option in year 3 then maybe.

sunsbum · Post #883 » by **sunsbum** » Fri Jul 18, 2014 1:35 am

Young, oft injured and not worth anything near the max. Get off our nuts.

ruiner · Post #884 » by **ruiner** » Fri Jul 18, 2014 1:35 am

Safety Pickle wrote:Kind of blows my mind how butthurt people are on this thread about Bledsoe holding out for more cash. It's not like he owes anything to this franchise. He's young and he wants to get paid. Get off his nuts

Rich Paul, is that you ?

[edited] inappropriate, no more please

-Miklo

sunskerr · Post #885 » by **sunskerr** » Fri Jul 18, 2014 1:36 am

I'll say it again:

Start high, finish somewhere acceptable. They know they don't have all the leverage so they might as well go all in, no? It's highly unlikely he takes the QO and if another team offers a big deal, we match or S&T no matter what.

Rich Paul is doing what any agent would do: the best deal for his client is the best deal for him. The Suns are in the better position but Bledsoe's side is going to do the very best they can.

If he wants out he could say, "ok Mr. Sarver/Babby/McDonough etc - we'll go for the $12m per offer at four years, but we want that fourth year to be a player option." This would put pressure down the road (about two years) to trade Bledsoe because he could opt out after that 3rd year. If he is injured then he opts in for another year of big money. Of course, that's just one of the possibilities that could happen.

Moochthemonkey · Post #886 » by **Moochthemonkey** » Fri Jul 18, 2014 1:41 am

sunskerr wrote:I'll say it again:

Start high, finish somewhere acceptable. They know they don't have all the leverage so they might as well go all in, no? It's highly unlikely he takes the QO and if another team offers a big deal, we match or S&T no matter what.

Rich Paul is doing what any agent would do: the best deal for his client is the best deal for him. The Suns are in the better position but Bledsoe's side is going to do the very best they can.

If he wants out he could say, "ok Mr. Sarver/Babby/McDonough etc - we'll go for the $12m per offer at four years, but we want that fourth year to be a player option." This would put pressure down the road (about two years) to trade Bledsoe because he could opt out after that 3rd year. If he is injured then he opts in for another year of big money. Of course, that's just one of the possibilities that could happen.

off topic but- why are you always suspended?? or is it some kind of joke

Jdiddy701 · Post #887 » by **Jdiddy701** » Fri Jul 18, 2014 1:42 am

I do agree that you guys would be doing the same thing Bledsoe and his agent are doing. Let him test and see if he can get the max. If not, he'll settle. Calm down people.

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sunskerr · Post #888 » by **sunskerr** » Fri Jul 18, 2014 1:44 am

Moochthemonkey wrote:off topic but- why are you always suspended?? or is it some kind of joke

I posted here under the influence once and was rightfully suspended. I dunno why the title hasn't gone away, but I kind of like it.

YouTube · Post #889 » by **Kerrsed** » Fri Jul 18, 2014 1:45 am

Moochthemonkey wrote:
off topic but- why are you always suspended?? or is it some kind of joke

He could get that fixed, as it is a bug in the system, but he likes the status.

Post #890 » by **lilfishi22** » Fri Jul 18, 2014 1:46 am

What about the fact that no one has offered them a max thus far (actually, no one has even sent an offer yet) and they are still sticking to their original demands?

Moochthemonkey · Post #891 » by **Moochthemonkey** » Fri Jul 18, 2014 1:49 am

sunskerr wrote:
Moochthemonkey wrote:off topic but- why are you always suspended?? or is it some kind of joke

I posted here under the influence once and was rightfully suspended. I dunno why the title hasn't gone away, but I kind of like it.

lol ok

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if it came down to it, would it be worth it to offer Bledsoe one year 12$ million, similar to what David Lee did with the Knicks in 2009?

bwoolf2 · Post #892 » by **bwoolf2** » Fri Jul 18, 2014 1:50 am

Moochthemonkey wrote:
sunskerr wrote:
Moochthemonkey wrote:off topic but- why are you always suspended?? or is it some kind of joke

I posted here under the influence once and was rightfully suspended. I dunno why the title hasn't gone away, but I kind of like it.

lol ok

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if it came down to it, would it be worth it to offer Bledsoe one year 12$ million, similar to what David Lee did with the Knicks in 2009?

No probably not at that point you just make him sign the QO, and he moves on next year.

JTrain · Post #893 » by **JTrain** » Fri Jul 18, 2014 1:54 am

Can we have Gortat back?

Post #894 » by **bwgood77** » Fri Jul 18, 2014 1:55 am

Safety Pickle wrote:Kind of blows my mind how butthurt people are on this thread about Bledsoe holding out for more cash. It's not like he owes anything to this franchise. He's young and he wants to get paid. Get off his nuts

Him and his agent are just making him look like an ass at this point. I don't blame him for wanting more but when the market dries up and obviously no one wants you, then to demand 5/80 makes you look like an ass.

It probably doesn't make other teams eager to clear cap space either for him. But Rich Paul only reps LeBron, and it isn't exactly hard to get him the max, so he really doesn't know what he's doing.

Moochthemonkey · Post #895 » by **Moochthemonkey** » Fri Jul 18, 2014 1:57 am

bwoolf2 wrote:
Moochthemonkey wrote:
sunskerr wrote:
I posted here under the influence once and was rightfully suspended. I dunno why the title hasn't gone away, but I kind of like it.

lol ok

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if it came down to it, would it be worth it to offer Bledsoe one year 12$ million, similar to what David Lee did with the Knicks in 2009?

No probably not at that point you just make him sign the QO, and he moves on next year.

Ahh, I didn't know it worked that way! I thought the player had to accept the QO.
So, in the instance no one offers Bledsoe a contract sheet, and no trade is made, he can only play with the Suns next year whether it be a long term deal or the QO? It makes sense to me now otherwise RFO rights would be moot.

NaturalBuns · Post #896 » by **NaturalBuns** » Fri Jul 18, 2014 2:04 am

Nobody on this board is even close to McD thinking.

Isaiah Thomas
Anthony Tolliver
Tyler Ennis

Those moves way out in left field.
if Bledsoe is traded In S&T it will be a shock in what we get in return.

Also think suns have very little leverage in a S&T

Post #897 » by **lilfishi22** » Fri Jul 18, 2014 2:06 am

Moochthemonkey wrote:Ahh, I didn't know it worked that way! I thought the player had to accept the QO.
So, in the instance no one offers Bledsoe a contract sheet, and no trade is made, he can only play with the Suns next year whether it be a long term deal or the QO? It makes sense to me now otherwise RFO rights would be moot.

It's up to the player to accept but they don't have to. They could go play overseas or sit out the season if there is a contract dispute, in which case they'll be paid nothing by the team. But we'll still own his RFA rights when he returns. However, if he doesn't want to sign with us long term but doesn't get the deal he wants with other teams, he will sign the QO so he can still play and then become a UFA after this season.

Safety Pickle · Post #898 » by **Safety Pickle** » Fri Jul 18, 2014 2:15 am

bwgood77 wrote:
Safety Pickle wrote:Kind of blows my mind how butthurt people are on this thread about Bledsoe holding out for more cash. It's not like he owes anything to this franchise. He's young and he wants to get paid. Get off his nuts

Him and his agent are just making him look like an ass at this point. I don't blame him for wanting more but when the market dries up and obviously no one wants you, then to demand 5/80 makes you look like an ass.

It probably doesn't make other teams eager to clear cap space either for him. But Rich Paul only reps LeBron, and it isn't exactly hard to get him the max, so he really doesn't know what he's doing.

Ok, but the 5/80 deal was reported by Broussard, right? The same guy that 99% of this board just laughs at anytime he reports something. Now he mentions Bledsoe in one of his tweets and everyone suddenly believes it and acts like Bledsoe personally took a **** in their coffee.

Safety Pickle · Post #899 » by **Safety Pickle** » Fri Jul 18, 2014 2:17 am

ruiner wrote:
Safety Pickle wrote:Kind of blows my mind how butthurt people are on this thread about Bledsoe holding out for more cash. It's not like he owes anything to this franchise. He's young and he wants to get paid. Get off his nuts

Rich Paul, is that you ?

Sounds your lips are firmly tight around his shaft already though.

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LukasBMW · Post #900 » by **LukasBMW** » Fri Jul 18, 2014 2:19 am

It's a game of chicken. The Suns have offered a very fair $11 million per year. Bledsoe and his camp know this offer is going nowhere and are patiently waiting for another team to try to swoop in and offer up a higher offer so the Suns will be forced to match.

All is fine and well as long as Bledsoe doesn't pout about it next season if he loses (and takes $11 million over 4 seasons) or wins (gets a max offer and the Suns match).

Neither side has done anything wrong yet. The Suns offer is reasonable (they didn't lowball him), and Bledsoe's camp is still hoping to get a max offer from another team and hold the Suns hostage.