Trade Ideas - Part 2

[guest81]

I'd say it worked out just fine for Miami

Problem is the cap penalties became much more severe halfway through Miami's run (hence the miller amnesty).

With the new cba, it is nearly impossible to have 3 max guys

They didn't have to get rid of Miller. Maybe it would of prevented them from getting Oden and Beas. Considering those two contributed 0 to the team, I'd say they should of just kept Miller

[guest81]

I'd say it worked out just fine for Miami

Problem is the cap penalties became much more severe halfway through Miami's run (hence the miller amnesty).

With the new cba, it is nearly impossible to have 3 max guys

Also saying that Miller is on the Cavs roster, and they can trade for Love right now, using the word impossible seems silly since its actually very likely

[OsuCavsfan103]

I would trade Wiggins and Bennett/Thompson, and a 1st rounder if we netted Love AND Georgui Dieng in return. That would give us a rim protector and Love.

Other than that, if I am CLE I stand firm with Waiters and TT/Bennett and a pick or two and leave it at that, if we don't net Love then oh well

Minn is looking for CLE to flinch first, and it's something I don't want to see us do. I wouldn't be mad if we lost Wiggins for Love, but my gut is saying to keep Wiggins. Minn shouldn't have leverage, they are banking on us being impatient and demanding a title now. We should at least keep Wiggins til the trade deadline.

[guest81]

If I were the Cavs and decided on trading Wiggins for Love, I would try to get back Brewer.

He doesn't have any upside anymore, But he's going to be just as good defensively as Wiggins next year and maybe even more because Wiggins is still a rookie. He's going to fit the role Wiggins would have for the next three years easy.

He can't shoot but he runs the fastbreak like a madman, which was perfect for Love's outlet passes, and would be awesome with Lebron as well.

[guest81]

Love/Brewer for

Waiters/Wiggins/Thompson/Haywood future pick

fair trade for both teams

Irving
Brewer
Lebron
Love
Varejao

That team will hold their own on D with Brewer Lebron and Varejaro, and have an absolutely unstoppable offense.

Seriously you cant afford to double team any of those guys, all of the big three are elite passers, all three can hit from anywhere on the court.

[Niko23]

Im good with brewer but not if we have to include thompson

[Niko23]

Love/Brewer for

Waiters/Wiggins/Thompson/Haywood future pick

fair trade for both teams

Irving
Brewer
Lebron
Love
Varejao

That team will hold their own on D with Brewer Lebron and Varejaro, and have an absolutely unstoppable offense.

Seriously you cant afford to double team any of those guys, all of the big three are elite passers, all three can hit from anywhere on the court.

Sorry but this terrible. Its Wiggins/Bennett/Filler for Love. Dion and Tristan are valuable to us. If you want Waiters/Wiggins/Thompson - Dieng is included

[MaxMN]

I heard something about a 3 team deal with Brooklyn that sends KG to Minnesota to make the salaries even.

[CavsKSU25]

This should be the trade.

There is something that I don't get: Cavs franchise, founded 44 years ago and zero rings. You have one of the greatest players ever on-board. A nice young core. And the possibility to add an All Star player without hurting badly the roster. You have the possibility to win it all NOW. An unique shot. And some of you seem not to understand this. Let's develop Wiggins you say. What...? You'll have another 44 years to develop players, don't worry, but better after WINNING some rings.

What a god awful post. how doesnt it badly hurt the roster? it severly caps us out to even fill a decent 12 man roster, who's going to be the backups? are Irving, Waiters, Lebron, Love and AV going to play 48 minutes a night? not to mention AV, Love and Irving have signifcant injury issues. Who's going to be our backup C? Whos going to be on our bench? a bunch of terrible defending late 30s guys? Pass. we'll also have another 44 years to win a title, we can be consistent title contenders for the next 10-15 years if Wiggins pans out compared to 5-7 with Irving, Lebron and Love.

Boy you just don't learn do you. Stop attacking other posters for their thoughts, jesus.

I don't agree with his post but then again I don't agree with my wife's shoe purchasing issues either, sometimes it's best just to shake your head in private and walk away.

First of all i didnt attack anybody, second of all you are the very last person on this forum to tell people to stop attacking others, you literally did it 7 times in a half hour span the other day.

[guest81]

Love/Brewer for

Waiters/Wiggins/Thompson/Haywood future pick

fair trade for both teams

Irving
Brewer
Lebron
Love
Varejao

That team will hold their own on D with Brewer Lebron and Varejaro, and have an absolutely unstoppable offense.

Seriously you cant afford to double team any of those guys, all of the big three are elite passers, all three can hit from anywhere on the court.

Sorry but this terrible. Its Wiggins/Bennett/Filler for Love. Dion and Tristan are valuable to us. If you want Waiters/Wiggins/Thompson - Dieng is included

They are valuable on the team right now. But if you have Love you don't need thompson, who you have to pay after this year anyway. And a team with Love/Irving/Lebron really doesn't need the scoring of Dion. You need a 3 and D guy with those guys, not a volume scorer like Dion

[jbk1234]

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If this is true, the Cavs need to just walk away. Let Love play for GS next year. He's a great player but he's not worth all this.

[CavsKSU25]

Love/Brewer for

Waiters/Wiggins/Thompson/Haywood future pick

fair trade for both teams

Irving
Brewer
Lebron
Love
Varejao

That team will hold their own on D with Brewer Lebron and Varejaro, and have an absolutely unstoppable offense.

Seriously you cant afford to double team any of those guys, all of the big three are elite passers, all three can hit from anywhere on the court.

Sorry but this terrible. Its Wiggins/Bennett/Filler for Love. Dion and Tristan are valuable to us. If you want Waiters/Wiggins/Thompson - Dieng is included

They are valuable on the team right now. But if you have Love you don't need thompson, who you have to pay after this year anyway. And a team with Love/Irving/Lebron really doesn't need the scoring of Dion. You need a 3 and D guy with those guys, not a volume scorer like Dion

Thats an awful deal. if we get love we absolutley need Thompson otherwise we have no defense at the PF spot. And yes a team with Love, Irving, Lebron still needs a capable 2G, you cant just leave gaping holes on the team.

[walterwalter13]

Can a team do a sign and trade for a player excepting a qualifying offer? If Detroit and Monroe are as far apart as they seem, then it would be a nice way for both teams to get something out of the deal. Monroe for Bennett. Detroit gets the prospect of Bennett and out of paying Monroe $9-11million a year. Cleveland gets a 4/5 option to allow interesting mixes with Varejao and Thompson and they get the hope that Lebron can convince him to sign a team friendly deal to stay on. If Monroe is looking to get paid, a year of playing with Lebron (and the exposure it brings) might be in his best interest.
Obviously Cleveland would be rolling the dice that Monroe would stick around for reasonable money.

[Niko23]

I will completely disagree with you. Good teams have multiple facilitators. See the Spurs and that's why Dion is so important. He can run an offense. Thompson is a hardworking, tenacious rebounder and will get better defensively. He is not a throw in.

[Niko23]

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If this is true, the Cavs need to just walk away. Let Love play for GS next year. He's a great player but he's not worth all this.

Shoot me in the face if were adding waiters/thompson

[jbk1234]

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If this is true, the Cavs need to just walk away. Let Love play for GS next year. He's a great player but he's not worth all this.

Shoot me in the face if were adding waiters/thompson

Seriously, I find that proposal to be offensive. I would shut down talks if Flip came at me with that nonsense.

[guest81]

Sorry but this terrible. Its Wiggins/Bennett/Filler for Love. Dion and Tristan are valuable to us. If you want Waiters/Wiggins/Thompson - Dieng is included

They are valuable on the team right now. But if you have Love you don't need thompson, who you have to pay after this year anyway. And a team with Love/Irving/Lebron really doesn't need the scoring of Dion. You need a 3 and D guy with those guys, not a volume scorer like Dion

Thats an awful deal. if we get love we absolutley need Thompson otherwise we have no defense at the PF spot. And yes a team with Love, Irving, Lebron still needs a capable 2G, you cant just leave gaping holes on the team.

I don't think Thompson is THAT good of a defender. If you get Love who plays 35-38 minutes a game, you only need another 12-15 minutes from another player. Also your not going to have good offense and good defense at every position. No team has that.

Brewer is more then a capable two guard. He can the other teams best best so Lebron doesn't have to. He doesn't need the ball so more for Irving and Lebron. He leaves everything on the court every night. Pretty much would be Lebrons little lapdog, playing catch and running all day

[CavsKSU25]

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Plenty of folks around NBA predict Kevin Love will eventually ask TWolves to trade him to CLE. Not a fact, but it is a belief.



This could be why Minnesota wants to do a deal sooner rather then later, the moment he asks for a deal to Cleveland and Cleveland alone, the cavs get Love for pennies on the dollar.

[guest81]

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If this is true, the Cavs need to just walk away. Let Love play for GS next year. He's a great player but he's not worth all this.

Shoot me in the face if were adding waiters/thompson

Seriously, I find that proposal to be offensive. I would shut down talks if Flip came at me with that nonsense.

I don't think the numbers come close to adding up. Wouldn't take that one seriously

[CavsKSU25]

They are valuable on the team right now. But if you have Love you don't need thompson, who you have to pay after this year anyway. And a team with Love/Irving/Lebron really doesn't need the scoring of Dion. You need a 3 and D guy with those guys, not a volume scorer like Dion

Thats an awful deal. if we get love we absolutley need Thompson otherwise we have no defense at the PF spot. And yes a team with Love, Irving, Lebron still needs a capable 2G, you cant just leave gaping holes on the team.

I don't think Thompson is THAT good of a defender. If you get Love who plays 35-38 minutes a game, you only need another 12-15 minutes from another player. Also your not going to have good offense and good defense at every position. No team has that.

Brewer is more then a capable two guard. He can the other teams best best so Lebron doesn't have to. He doesn't need the ball so more for Irving and Lebron. He leaves everything on the court every night. Pretty much would be Lebrons little lapdog, playing catch and running all day

He was one of the better rated PFs last year on defense so yes he is THAT good of a defender, And the Spurs had a pretty good combination of that last year. and no Brewer is not a more then capable 2G, he's a backup at best at this point.