The One And Only Offseason Thread 3

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

Sacto owes its 2015 pick to Chicago, protected for the top 10 (and if not conveyed in 2015, then 2016, then 2017, same protections). That is to say, they can't really trade a first rounder. You'd think they could trade us the unprotected portion, but that would violate the rule against trading consecutive first rounders since they'd still owe the first the following year. We could, however, acquire the right to swap picks if they're lower than 10.

That and, fwiw, Stauskas hasn't been terribly productive in Summer League. So they don't have much to offer either. Sigh.

My guess is Bledsoe either accepts our offer or does the QO. Rich Paul looks like a real moron here. Babby schooled him.

... Say he accepts the QO. What do we do? Absolutely full of cap space and not much to do with it (as there don't seem to any more bad contracts out there teams are desperate to get rid of). I doubt Bled would have much trade value with that contract. Not a great situation for us.

Maybe reality hasn't hit me yet on Bennet because I've been high on him ever since he was drafted and I thought for sure he was going to fall to us. He clearly wasn't in NBA shape and I don't think the cavs used him properly last year by not playing him at PF, really used him as a swing player off the bench which he clearly isn't. I think you put him in as PF and let him go to work in our up tempo system ala poor man's charles barkley. I still think he good be a really good player in the league.

I just don't think so. It's not what the Cavs are doing as much as the way he's comfortable playing. He likes to face up from 25. Some nights he gets rebounds, but he's not really an under-the-basket type player. And his feel for the game is just terrible. It just seems a low-IQ guy with great athleticism, wingspan and the ability to shoot 3's from distance. All the stuff you need to be a really good basketball player? Not there. He's like the opposite of TJ Warren.

[gaspar]

I think Bledsoe is traded within a week. And hope so.

Love the Bledsoe for Nash and Randall proposal. I would even give them their pick back. It's top-five protected anyway. Any doubts they to get to use it next year? Lock up Randall now. If there are no questions about his health, you won't be able to do much better in next years draft.

Or sign the QO and ship him to Cleveland for Bennett or Thompson straight up. Let LeBron take care of his little buddy.

And then there's always Detroit and Smith or Monroe... Maybe a three-way with sac town


No doubt McD is working the phones. There is a deal out there and he will find it.

Why would we do that? No one is offering or willing to play Bledsoe the max, thus there is no need to sign and trade him, unless you believe he is going to get the amount of money he doesn't deserve; we aren't going to give it to him.

Bledsoe can ask for the moon, but he isn't going to get it, he can earn his max for his next contract.

5 year 80 million Someone needs to inform Paul that he needs to learn how to negotiate something other than a max contract for players not named Lebron.

So much this. There's no reason to do a stupid sign-and-trade where the Suns get a marginal compensation. The Suns have Bledsoe over a barrel. His options are very limited:

1. Take 4/48 from the Suns.
2. Sign QO $3.7M and become UFA next summer. As WeekapaugGroove said before, Bledsoe would have to get 3/45 next year just to break even from 4/48 he leaves on the table. That's not gonna happen. Too much risk, too little reward.
3. Sign an offer sheet with another team. Bledsoe's problem is that the only team that has more than $11M of cap space are the Sixers who are not interested in signing Bledsoe and winning games next year. Unless a team starts clearing salary there's nothing to worry about.

The Suns are in no-lose situation. Someone has to blink first and it's not gonna be Ryan McDonough.

[bwgood77]

Sacto owes its 2015 pick to Chicago, protected for the top 10 (and if not conveyed in 2015, then 2016, then 2017, same protections). That is to say, they can't really trade a first rounder. You'd think they could trade us the unprotected portion, but that would violate the rule against trading consecutive first rounders since they'd still owe the first the following year. We could, however, acquire the right to swap picks if they're lower than 10.

In that case I probably wouldn't do it, but it would be a nice way to clear cap space for next summer and continue the rebuild instead of investing heavily and maxing out multiple people on a current 9 seeded team.

I'd consider the right to exchange picks if Bledsoe continues to hold out for another month.

[Sunsdeuce]

Adrian Wojnarowski: Lakers waiving guard Kendall Marshall, but have interest in bringing him back on a new deal if he clears waivers, league sources tell Yahoo.

Oh poor Marshall.

[Sunsdeuce]

Kurt Helin@basketballtalk: Lakers fans are ticked about the Carlos Boozer deal. Really ticked? Why? Because they are not used to picking up scraps for a weak team.

[Qwigglez]

I say we offer Greg Monroe a contract now... not that it has anything to do with Bledsoe, lol.

[Sunsdeuce]

I say we offer Greg Monroe a contract now... not that it has anything to do with Bledsoe, lol.

I think that's a great idea.


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[gaspar]

I say we offer Greg Monroe a contract now... not that it has anything to do with Bledsoe, lol.

I think that's a great idea.


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Monroe turned down 5/60 from Detroit. He wants a max too.

[Frank Lee]

I think Bledsoe is traded within a week. And hope so.

Love the Bledsoe for Nash and Randall proposal. I would even give them their pick back. It's top-five protected anyway. Any doubts they to get to use it next year? Lock up Randall now. If there are no questions about his health, you won't be able to do much better in next years draft.

Or sign the QO and ship him to Cleveland for Bennett or Thompson straight up. Let LeBron take care of his little buddy.

And then there's always Detroit and Smith or Monroe... Maybe a three-way with sac town


No doubt McD is working the phones. There is a deal out there and he will find it.

Have to disagree - the only way to do that trade is if the pick us UNPROTECTED totally

As the trade is Randall for Bledsoe and steam if that pick is still protected top 5

On the surface it looks like too much, but I would be surprised if we see that pick next yr... What is the protection after that.... Better question , where does the pick fall to in '15/'16 after they clear all their cap space. We could easily be squabbling over an 18-25 pick, IF we don't see it next yr.

I'll take a bird in the hand... Especially a hand we need.

[BobbieL]

I think Bledsoe is traded within a week. And hope so.

Love the Bledsoe for Nash and Randall proposal. I would even give them their pick back. It's top-five protected anyway. Any doubts they to get to use it next year? Lock up Randall now. If there are no questions about his health, you won't be able to do much better in next years draft.

Or sign the QO and ship him to Cleveland for Bennett or Thompson straight up. Let LeBron take care of his little buddy.

And then there's always Detroit and Smith or Monroe... Maybe a three-way with sac town


No doubt McD is working the phones. There is a deal out there and he will find it.

Have to disagree - the only way to do that trade is if the pick us UNPROTECTED totally

As the trade is Randall for Bledsoe and steam if that pick is still protected top 5

On the surface it looks like too much, but I would be surprised if we see that pick next yr... What is the protection after that.... Better question , where does the pick fall to in '15/'16 after they clear all their cap space. We could easily be squabbling over an 18-25 pick, IF we don't see it next yr.

I'll take a bird in the hand... Especially a hand we need.

IF the Lakers got Bledsoe -- and just give up Randle - they are not going to be one of the worst five teams. So, from the Lakers point of view - the risk is mitigated as its top 5 protected anyway. So, with Bledsoe - they are going to lose it the pick

So, if I am the Suns and they want Bledsoe - the odds of it being top 5 go down. If they want Bledsoe - they have to give something other than Randle.

[NotTraxxe]

Would you rather have a maxed Monroe or a maxed Bledsoe?

Assuming the answer 'neither' is off the table

[bwgood77]

Lakers are not interested in Bledsoe and we don't need Randle.

[bwgood77]

Would you rather have a maxed Monroe or a maxed Bledsoe?

Assuming the answer 'neither' is off the table

Well since he isn't a good defender or shot blocker, after looking at this http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2013/1010/gr ... e_1152.jpg I'd have to say Bledsoe no question.

[harshey1388]

Would you rather have a maxed Monroe or a maxed Bledsoe?

Assuming the answer 'neither' is off the table

This is evil. Personally I'd say Bledsoe but neither better be on that table.

[MilotheSlayer]

Glad to see Plumlee make the Select Team for USA. Should be good for him to go up against the top bigs for a couple weeks.

[WeekapaugGroove]

Glad to see Plumlee make the Select Team for USA. Should be good for him to go up against the top bigs for a couple weeks.

yeah that's a great opportunity for miles to practice with the best of the best. Good for him.

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[gaspar]

Glad to see Plumlee make the Select Team for USA. Should be good for him to go up against the top bigs for a couple weeks.

Wow, that's great.

[WeekapaugGroove]

Would you rather have a maxed Monroe or a maxed Bledsoe?

Assuming the answer 'neither' is off the table

Well since he isn't a good defender or shot blocker, after looking at this http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2013/1010/gr ... e_1152.jpg I'd have to say Bledsoe no question.

my god is that bad

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[sunsbum]

I say we offer Greg Monroe a contract now... not that it has anything to do with Bledsoe, lol.

I think that's a great idea.


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Monroe turned down 5/60 from Detroit. He wants a max too.

from what I've read he just doesn't want to be In Detroit

[NTB]

Where is ray ray?