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Summer League Thread: Final Four, Rice vs. McLemore

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Re: Summer League Thread: Final Four, Rice vs. McLemore 

Post#61 » by miller31time » Mon Jul 21, 2014 1:56 am

Yeah, I really hated Rice's game today. Incredibly selfish. Almost nothing came within the flow of the offense. And a lot of it was due to frustration of him being upset over no-calls and the score of the game.

Porter was also disappointing. He didn't play his game tonight either. He's not the kind of person who should try and take a game over and force up shots. He gets his points within the structure of the offense.

2 very Summer-League-esque games from the two of them - all gunning, no thought. Bad shooting nights are completely excusable and part of the game - performances like Rice's today are not because they show just how immature he can be and why he's a long way from being the player he's capable of.

Edited to add: Their shot-jacking also looked to have an effect on the rest of the team. For fear of not touching the ball on offense, they jacked up whatever they could as quick as they could. Can't blame them - they're trying to make a name for themselves and it's hard to do that when two players are shooting every time they get a chance.
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Re: Summer League Thread: Final Four, Rice vs. McLemore 

Post#62 » by FAH1223 » Mon Jul 21, 2014 2:26 am

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jangles86 wrote:I like Rices demeanor when he gets focused. But his sulking is what will hold him back. He needs a Kobe-type mentality and he could be a very good nba player. But his sulking will hold him back until.


He already has a Kobe-like mentality when it comes to ignoring the rest of his teammates on offense. :lol:

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Re: Summer League Thread: Final Four, Rice vs. McLemore 

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Re: Summer League Thread: Final Four, Rice vs. McLemore 

Post#64 » by Dat2U » Mon Jul 21, 2014 2:32 am

Guys aren't just physically tired but mentally tired as well. I wouldn't read too much into tonight's game. Both Porter & Rice have had to carry a heavy burden because of the lack of talent on the rest of the summer league roster.

I think both showed they deserve every shot at a rotation spot this fall and I hope one of them will force their way into the starting lineup much sooner than everyone thinks.
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Re: Summer League Thread: Final Four, Rice vs. McLemore 

Post#65 » by Dat2U » Mon Jul 21, 2014 2:35 am

FAH1223 wrote:
80sballboy wrote:
jangles86 wrote:I like Rices demeanor when he gets focused. But his sulking is what will hold him back. He needs a Kobe-type mentality and he could be a very good nba player. But his sulking will hold him back until.


He already has a Kobe-like mentality when it comes to ignoring the rest of his teammates on offense. :lol:

:lol:


Outside of Porter who was he supposed to pass to? Burton? :)
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Re: Summer League Thread: Final Four, Rice vs. McLemore 

Post#66 » by payitforward » Mon Jul 21, 2014 2:39 am

Dat2U wrote:
FAH1223 wrote:
80sballboy wrote:
He already has a Kobe-like mentality when it comes to ignoring the rest of his teammates on offense. :lol:

:lol:


Outside of Porter who was he supposed to pass to? Burton? :)

Let me see... I think it's "the open guy." You are supposed to pass to the open guy. Isn't that it?
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Re: Summer League Thread: Final Four, Rice vs. McLemore 

Post#67 » by 80sballboy » Mon Jul 21, 2014 2:41 am

Dat2U wrote:
FAH1223 wrote:
80sballboy wrote:
He already has a Kobe-like mentality when it comes to ignoring the rest of his teammates on offense. :lol:

:lol:


Outside of Porter who was he supposed to pass to? Burton? :)


Rice passed it one time to a wide open Orton for a dunk in this game. There are guys open that can finish. Whatever, he won the MVP for SL. He was great. Now it's time to take next step up but the poise factor is something I've been mentioning since Game 1 of this tournament. It's not juts about scoring buckets. He can do that.
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Re: Summer League Thread: Final Four, Rice vs. McLemore 

Post#68 » by payitforward » Mon Jul 21, 2014 2:46 am

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Re: Summer League Thread: Final Four, Rice vs. McLemore 

Post#69 » by nuposse04 » Mon Jul 21, 2014 3:03 am

Overall I'm more than happy with the showing of Porter and Glen. **** way to end cause of that wretched 1st half, but there was more positive then negatives IMO. If you can't see that as a fan than you have the blinders on.

Burton definitely doesn't look like an NBA caliber player that we all hoped he'd be. :/

I still have hope for Khem Birch but we need to move Seraphin in order to bring him on, cause as promising as he may be, he needs to hit the weight room quite significantly.

I'd also look up Theis again in 2 season, if he continues to develop, he may be a solid guy to bring aboard if we can bring in Durant.

Also, English should be barred from the NBA with how atrocious he is, good god is he awful.
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Re: Summer League Thread: Final Four, Rice vs. McLemore 

Post#70 » by gambitx777 » Mon Jul 21, 2014 3:03 am

80sballboy wrote:
Dat2U wrote:
FAH1223 wrote: :lol:


Outside of Porter who was he supposed to pass to? Burton? :)


Rice passed it one time to a wide open Orton for a dunk in this game. There are guys open that can finish. Whatever, he won the MVP for SL. He was great. Now it's time to take next step up but the poise factor is something I've been mentioning since Game 1 of this tournament. It's not juts about scoring buckets. He can do that.

I think the big difference is that he will not be asked to be the main man on the main team. Plus, he will have better team members to pass too, and he will get better quality looks to put up points.
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Re: Summer League Thread: Final Four, Rice vs. McLemore 

Post#71 » by hands11 » Mon Jul 21, 2014 4:02 am

Well, thats the end of summer league.

SAC is basically playing their 2nd unit of regular season players as their summer league starters.

We only have Otto and Glen.
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Re: Summer League Thread: Final Four, Rice vs. McLemore 

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Re: Summer League Thread: Final Four, Rice vs. McLemore 

Post#73 » by dangermouse » Mon Jul 21, 2014 7:35 am

Bulls and Wizards got some promising youngsters. Bulls have been good at finding nice young talent who contributes to the team in the recent past, nice to see that the Wizards are doing the same
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Re: Summer League Thread: Final Four, Rice vs. McLemore 

Post#74 » by Dark Faze » Mon Jul 21, 2014 11:20 am

The fact that Porter has the mindset now to jack up that many shots on poor efficiency is a win in my book -- he never showed that kind of spine last year. His Georgetown roots are slowly being cut away and he'll be better for it.
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Re: Summer League Thread: Final Four, Rice vs. McLemore 

Post#75 » by TGW » Mon Jul 21, 2014 2:43 pm

miller31time wrote:Yeah, I really hated Rice's game today. Incredibly selfish. Almost nothing came within the flow of the offense. And a lot of it was due to frustration of him being upset over no-calls and the score of the game.

Porter was also disappointing. He didn't play his game tonight either. He's not the kind of person who should try and take a game over and force up shots. He gets his points within the structure of the offense.

2 very Summer-League-esque games from the two of them - all gunning, no thought. Bad shooting nights are completely excusable and part of the game - performances like Rice's today are not because they show just how immature he can be and why he's a long way from being the player he's capable of.

Edited to add: Their shot-jacking also looked to have an effect on the rest of the team. For fear of not touching the ball on offense, they jacked up whatever they could as quick as they could. Can't blame them - they're trying to make a name for themselves and it's hard to do that when two players are shooting every time they get a chance.


To be fair to both of them, Sacramento's summer league team consists of a bunch of real NBA players. Acy and Cunningham are going into their 4th year. McCallum and McClemore are in their second seasons. Stauskas is a lottery pick. Acy was going nuts because he pushing Birch around.

It was essentially our two NBA guys vs. Sacramento's bench and maybe a starter or two. Pretty cheap, but we have to take that into consideration with this game. Our frontcourt got abused badly, and everyone was struggling to make shots.

The one thing I really didn't like was Porter's defense in spots...he's been getting caught flatfooted on defense, and players have been blowing by him. He's done that in almost every game in the SL...it won't fly when he plays the real players though...Wittman will be on his ass if he does it in real games.
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Re: Summer League Thread: Final Four, Rice vs. McLemore 

Post#76 » by fishercob » Mon Jul 21, 2014 2:50 pm

Following the axiom about summer league not being able to tell us who can play as well as who cannot....

Ben McLemore is wholly unimpressive.
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Re: Summer League Thread: Final Four, Rice vs. McLemore 

Post#77 » by theboomking » Mon Jul 21, 2014 3:47 pm

fishercob wrote:Following the axiom about summer league not being able to tell us who can play as well as who cannot....

Ben McLemore is wholly unimpressive.


Not a good showing for a second year player.

Regardless of the axiom that the summer league is useful for showing you who cannot play, I am encouraged by the play of Porter and Rice. If Porter and Rice both wind up doing well for us in the long term, it would be a huge boon for us. A Beal, Wall, Porter trio would be very complementary and should make us attractive to FA, whether or not we eventually wind up with Durant. If Rice can be that spark off the bench wig the second unit, then things look even better.
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Re: Summer League Thread: Final Four, Rice vs. McLemore 

Post#78 » by penbeast0 » Tue Jul 22, 2014 12:07 am

Dark Faze wrote:The fact that Porter has the mindset now to jack up that many shots on poor efficiency is a win in my book -- he never showed that kind of spine last year. His Georgetown roots are slowly being cut away and he'll be better for it.


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