Evan Turner Finalizing Deal With Celtics

[damecurry]

he's actually worth more money.

This is correct.
Someone explain how he's horrifically ineffecient when he shoots well over 40% (even as a terrible fit on the pacers.) Someone explain how he's not worth a few mil a year when he was averaging 17/6/4 when given a large role and opportunity? He's far from an elite player, but used better than he was at the pacers he is worth the full mle or close to it, signing for a portion is clearly a good deal.

[Jvaughn]

he's actually worth more money.

This is correct.
Someone explain how he's horrifically ineffecient when he shoots well over 40% (even as a terrible fit on the pacers.) Someone explain how he's not worth a few mil a year when he was averaging 17/6/4 when given a large role and opportunity? He's far from an elite player, but used better than he was at the pacers he is worth the full mle or close to it, signing for a portion is clearly a good deal.

Dude, you gotta look past the raw numbers. For his career he's a 12 PER and has been horribly inefficient (48TS%). Even when he was having a career year, it was a 13 PER and 50TS%. He was chucking on a bottom dweller team. He literally does nothing well. He's worth what he got paid.

[JMillott]

I know the advanced statistics don't show Evan Turner is a glowing light but it's not all bad and he does possess some strengths to his game too. He is an above average rebounder, passer for the SF position and their is certainly some value in the raw ability to create shots without needing to have them created for him. He has also been at least a somewhat effective defender according to his net PER he does have some history of holding his position below the average NBA PER.

I would also state that the 76ers had plenty of reasonably effective lineups before they made the completely idiotic Iggy, Vuce for Bynum trade and then realized they needed to blow it up and purpose-built a horrific NBA team last year.

For a guy with Turner's strengths and weaknesses he has never played on a team that one would consider to be a good fit for him. The lineups that you'd expect him to do better with that had some spacing with quality teammates around him usually scored more points then they gave up and the ones that had a serious lack of shooting/spacing that lacked for talent were pretty bad.

I would tend to think the Celtics signed him with the idea of playing him with Olynyk, Zeller, Thornton and either Bradley or Smart. If he can continue to at least hit that right corner three he shouldn't ruin the floor spacing while playing with Rondo or Smart with that group and as long as Bradley stays around 40% from three he should be able to space for Turner when we give him the basketball too.

He certainly gives a completely different dimension to our bench and is good at everything that Jeff Green is bad at.

[damecurry]

he's actually worth more money.

This is correct.
Someone explain how he's horrifically ineffecient when he shoots well over 40% (even as a terrible fit on the pacers.) Someone explain how he's not worth a few mil a year when he was averaging 17/6/4 when given a large role and opportunity? He's far from an elite player, but used better than he was at the pacers he is worth the full mle or close to it, signing for a portion is clearly a good deal.

Dude, you gotta look past the raw numbers. For his career he's a 12 PER and has been horribly inefficient (48TS%). Even when he was having a career year, it was a 13 PER and 50TS%. He was chucking on a bottom dweller team. He literally does nothing well. He's worth what he got paid.

I'm not typically a fan of this, but honestly, would you rather be paying Ben Gordon 4.5m/year, Jodie meeks 6m, Marvin Williams 5m Channing Frye 8.6m, or Evan Turner something around 2-3m?

I know, I know other bad offers doesn't make this a good one, but I'm just saying given context I'd be very happy to have Turner for a portion of the mle.

[watpho71]

Stock piling of mediocre players does not seem to be an advisable strategy. I don't see why the Celtics need this guy or where he is going to get consistent minutes. Avery Bradley, Jeff Green, Gerald Wallace, Marcus Thornton, Marcus Smart and now this signing. Rondo trade must be around the corner.

[Jvaughn]

This is correct.
Someone explain how he's horrifically ineffecient when he shoots well over 40% (even as a terrible fit on the pacers.) Someone explain how he's not worth a few mil a year when he was averaging 17/6/4 when given a large role and opportunity? He's far from an elite player, but used better than he was at the pacers he is worth the full mle or close to it, signing for a portion is clearly a good deal.

Dude, you gotta look past the raw numbers. For his career he's a 12 PER and has been horribly inefficient (48TS%). Even when he was having a career year, it was a 13 PER and 50TS%. He was chucking on a bottom dweller team. He literally does nothing well. He's worth what he got paid.

I'm not typically a fan of this, but honestly, would you rather be paying Ben Gordon 4.5m/year, Jodie meeks 6m, Marvin Williams 5m Channing Frye 8.6m, or Evan Turner something around 2-3m?

I know, I know other bad offers doesn't make this a good one, but I'm just saying given context I'd be very happy to have Turner for a portion of the mle.

I'd take Meeks and Marvin Williams at those prices easily over Turner at his. The Frye and Gordon deals are ridiculous no matter what.

[puja21]

Stock piling of mediocre players does not seem to be an advisable strategy. I don't see why the Celtics need this guy or where he is going to get consistent minutes. Avery Bradley, Jeff Green, Gerald Wallace, Marcus Thornton, Marcus Smart and now this signing. Rondo trade must be around the corner.

Not necessarily

This is Ainge's calling card.

In 2006, everyone said for the next 2 years "[Pierce] trade must be around the corner"

Thornton is expiring; Smart, Olynyk, Sullinger all on rookie deals... then there are the 7 (?) additional 1st round picks and cupboard of 2nds

Rondo could just as easily not be moved.

[JazzMatt13]

I am happy for him. Got out of a terrible, terrible mess, and got to spend a little time with the Bird's team. Now he has found a mid level job at the Boston Celtics.

[CoreyGallagher]

Now he has found a mid level job at the Boston Celtics.

I'm sure he's **** ecstatic.

[Fresh360Waves]

lmao at Philly fan's who wanted multiple talent and 1st round picks for turner last year

Same for Spencer Hawes hahaha

[bankrupt euro]

He's a young player who could be a small piece of a large trade. Ainge loves stockpilling these assets.

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[zeebo]

ZZZzzzz.....

Slow day in basketball. Hopefully this guy can get a shot and be a contributing member. He has the tools and still has some potential for improvement.

[Skoolboy]

decent move for the Celtics, for the midlevel I think the deal is worth it.. boston has assets they just might make that push for Love

[Donnyxc]

I love this guy. I think he took his game to a new level during the first half of last year. He was top 10 in PPG for the late part of 2013.

I think he's a great addition to the C's at the value we got him at.

The Celtics roster is currently pretty bad, but the C's have a significant amount of trade-able assets.

This has all the markings of 2007 all over again.

[EchelonNYK]

This guy is nearing journey man status.

[joefrizzle]

he's actually worth more money.

This is correct.
Someone explain how he's horrifically ineffecient when he shoots well over 40% (even as a terrible fit on the pacers.) Someone explain how he's not worth a few mil a year when he was averaging 17/6/4 when given a large role and opportunity? He's far from an elite player, but use.d better than he was at the pacers he is worth the full mle or close to it, signing for a portion is clearly a good deal.

Dude, you gotta look past the raw numbers. For his career he's a 12 PER and has been horribly inefficient (48TS%). Even when he was having a career year, it was a 13 PER and 50TS%. He was chucking on a bottom dweller team. He literally does nothing well. He's worth what he got paid.

Does nothing well??? Hes a very good rebounder and passer, and can arguably play 3 positions. Hes decent, nothing special, but he definitely deserved more than MLE $$$

[billtill4]

Think the magic , thunder or even spurs would've been a better fit for him

[Jvaughn]

This is correct.
Someone explain how he's horrifically ineffecient when he shoots well over 40% (even as a terrible fit on the pacers.) Someone explain how he's not worth a few mil a year when he was averaging 17/6/4 when given a large role and opportunity? He's far from an elite player, but use.d better than he was at the pacers he is worth the full mle or close to it, signing for a portion is clearly a good deal.

Dude, you gotta look past the raw numbers. For his career he's a 12 PER and has been horribly inefficient (48TS%). Even when he was having a career year, it was a 13 PER and 50TS%. He was chucking on a bottom dweller team. He literally does nothing well. He's worth what he got paid.

Does nothing well??? Hes a very good rebounder and passer, and can arguably play 3 positions. Hes decent, nothing special, but he definitely deserved more than MLE $$$

I'll give you good rebounder. He dominates the ball which leads to his assist numbers. Lots of players have the ability to play multiple positions. And a lot of them don't do it efficiently, much like Turner. He's a turnover machine. He's getting paid exactly what he's worth. There's a reason teams aren't knocking down his door for his services.

[spree2kawhi]

Spurs are at the moment. Turner will be turning heads next year.

[buckbuck]

I was hoping he'd go to the Pelicans so Lance could punch him again.