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The One And Only Offseason Thread 4

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Post#161 » by JTrain » Tue Jul 22, 2014 6:23 pm

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Yes, it means he's in favor of getting paid the max.


The tweet was during the regular season and it had nothing to do with a contract amount. It had to do with Eric Bledsoe playing for the Lakers. And he himself favorited it. He did not favorite any of the countless tweets talking about max contracts or other teams that actually could have made a major offer like the Bucks or Sixers.

I don't know why people continue to ignore the signs.

Again, the tweet and linked story had nothing to do with max money. It had to do with Eric Bledsoe being a good fit with the Lakers.


If Bledsoe wanted to go to the Lakers that bad they could have easily signed him before signing all of these other guys so I dont really think your argument holds weight.


He could want to play for the Lakers without the Lakers wanting to sign him.
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Post#162 » by SSOL » Tue Jul 22, 2014 6:27 pm

I can't say this enough. Bledsoe does not care about playing for the Lakers. He does not care about playing for the Suns. He cares about signing on the dotted line attached to a contract that gives him the most money possible. I can assure you that if the Suns offered the max, this would be done. I can assure you that if the Lakers offered the max this would be done. I can assure you that if MILWAUKEE offered the max this would be done. It is about money.
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Post#163 » by JTrain » Tue Jul 22, 2014 6:32 pm

SSOL wrote:
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Zelaznyrules wrote:
Yes, it means he's in favor of getting paid the max.


The tweet was during the regular season and it had nothing to do with a contract amount. It had to do with Eric Bledsoe playing for the Lakers. And he himself favorited it. He did not favorite any of the countless tweets talking about max contracts or other teams that actually could have made a major offer like the Bucks or Sixers.

I don't know why people continue to ignore the signs.

Again, the tweet and linked story had nothing to do with max money. It had to do with Eric Bledsoe being a good fit with the Lakers.


It had to do with the money, not the team.


What had to do with the money?

The tweet? The tweet didn't mention contract amounts.

Or Bledsoe's motivation for favoriting it? How do we know? If he wanted to favorite something about deserving money, he could have favorited any of the hundreds of tweets like this:

[tweet]https://twitter.com/JDotDuke/status/490009310517157888[/tweet]

But he didn't. He favorited the one that said he would be a great fit with the Lakers. The one that talked about his fit basketball-wise and did not mention anything about a max contract.
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Re: The One And Only Offseason Thread 4 

Post#164 » by JTrain » Tue Jul 22, 2014 6:35 pm

SSOL wrote:I can't say this enough. Bledsoe does not care about playing for the Lakers. He does not care about playing for the Suns. He cares about signing on the dotted line attached to a contract that gives him the most money possible. I can assure you that if the Suns offered the max, this would be done. I can assure you that if the Lakers offered the max this would be done. I can assure you that if MILWAUKEE offered the max this would be done. It is about money.


You could ultimately be right but i don't understand how you know this. Every sentence is asserted as fact. Do you know him or someone close to him? If not, what evidence do you have that absolutely rules out competing theories?
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Post#165 » by matt131 » Tue Jul 22, 2014 7:04 pm

[tweet]https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/491659044403175424[/tweet]

If by "clear the way," they mean clear up cap space, I'd love to take a valuable asset off their hands.
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Post#166 » by aIvin adams » Tue Jul 22, 2014 7:14 pm

JTrain wrote:
SSOL wrote:I can't say this enough. Bledsoe does not care about playing for the Lakers. He does not care about playing for the Suns. He cares about signing on the dotted line attached to a contract that gives him the most money possible. I can assure you that if the Suns offered the max, this would be done. I can assure you that if the Lakers offered the max this would be done. I can assure you that if MILWAUKEE offered the max this would be done. It is about money.


You could ultimately be right but i don't understand how you know this. Every sentence is asserted as fact. Do you know him or someone close to him? If not, what evidence do you have that absolutely rules out competing theories?


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Post#167 » by Scutt » Tue Jul 22, 2014 7:27 pm

I think this Bledsoe situation is clearly all about money. If it was all about wanting to leave Phoenix, I think his agent would have told the Suns at the start of free agency that he doesn't want to be here long term and we would have worked out a sign and trade with a team of his choosing a long time ago. Some people have mentioned Bledsoe not supporting Phoenix, but this pic is from when he was first traded here. I think it shows he doesn't hate Phoenix or AZ like some may think...


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Post#168 » by aIvin adams » Tue Jul 22, 2014 7:33 pm

Scutt wrote:I think this Bledsoe situation is clearly all about money. If it was all about wanting to leave Phoenix, I think his agent would have told the Suns at the start of free agency that he doesn't want to be here long term and we would have worked out a sign and trade with a team of his choosing a long time ago. Some people have mentioned Bledsoe not supporting Phoenix, but this pic is from when he was first traded here. I think it shows he doesn't hate Phoenix or AZ like some may think...


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LBJ is in Heat gear here. it can only mean one thing.

Rich Paul organized this picture for its symbological value, anticipating LBJ would dump the heat, thereby putting pressure on the Suns and showing every other team that Bledsoe wants out of the desert bc he can't take the 78 degree winters.

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Re: The One And Only Offseason Thread 4 

Post#169 » by RaisingArizona » Tue Jul 22, 2014 7:34 pm

This whole "favoriting a Tweet" thing has gone on for too long. I understand we have little to go on, but really?
Possible explanations:

1)It was an accident- I've done this a few times, especially if using Twitter on a phone or tablet.

2)It wasn't him- Maybe someone in his entourage or family handles his social media?

3) Aliens.
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Re: The One And Only Offseason Thread 4 

Post#170 » by aIvin adams » Tue Jul 22, 2014 7:35 pm

ginobiliflops wrote:This whole "favoriting a Tweet" thing has gone on for too long. I understand we have little to go on, but really?
Possible explanations:

1)It was an accident- I've done this a few times, especially if using Twitter on a phone or tablet.

2)It wasn't him- Maybe someone in his entourage or family handles his social media?

3) Aliens.


4) plan originating with Mitch Kupchak to passive aggressively tear the suns fandom apart?

there's no evidence that it isn't any of these four things, yet.
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Post#171 » by Nando88 » Tue Jul 22, 2014 7:37 pm

Has Chris Broussard's sources confirmed half-life 3 yet?


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Post#172 » by RaisingArizona » Tue Jul 22, 2014 7:38 pm

aIvin adams wrote:
ginobiliflops wrote:This whole "favoriting a Tweet" thing has gone on for too long. I understand we have little to go on, but really?
Possible explanations:

1)It was an accident- I've done this a few times, especially if using Twitter on a phone or tablet.

2)It wasn't him- Maybe someone in his entourage or family handles his social media?

3) Aliens.


4) plan originating with Mitch Kupchak to passive aggressively tear the suns fandom apart?

there's no evidence that it isn't any of these four things, yet.


He pulled a John Vancouver? Undercover Laker fan?
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Post#173 » by JTrain » Tue Jul 22, 2014 7:42 pm

ginobiliflops wrote:1)It was an accident- I've done this a few times, especially if using Twitter on a phone or tablet.


Definitely possible.
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Post#174 » by JTrain » Tue Jul 22, 2014 7:48 pm

If the Broussard (wanting $80M) report was inaccurate you'd think someone from Bledsoe's camp would have said something by now. It's making them look silly.
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Post#175 » by ImNotMcDiSwear » Tue Jul 22, 2014 7:58 pm

If this is only about how much money the Suns will offer in a contract, then what is Bledsoe's next move? It seems he only has two: threaten to sign for QO, and talk to other teams about making a trade for him. The Suns must also think that the QO seems like a terrible idea, and of course Bledsoe would hate it. That would seem to leave discussing a S&T with other teams as the only option.

If you can't see that as a real possibility, I don't know what to tell you. Personally, I'd like to get a 5 year deal done, with the 5th year a team option. I've said $13 mil/per is reasonable in my eyes. I just don't think there's an inevitable and obvious outcome here.
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Post#176 » by JTrain » Tue Jul 22, 2014 8:08 pm

If Bledsoe is confident about his knee and his abilities, then sign for $48M and become super rich, then be great, sign for $90M+ in four years and become filthy rich.

He won't touch the QO.

Sitting at the table making crazy demands with zero leverage gets you nowhere. The Suns have no incentive whatsoever to budge on their offer, unless they just think it will prevent hard feelings or pouting. And I don't see Sarver as the type to dole out several million for pout prevention.
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Post#177 » by RaisingArizona » Tue Jul 22, 2014 8:12 pm

Nando88 wrote:Has Chris Broussard's sources confirmed half-life 3 yet?


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Post#178 » by SSOL » Tue Jul 22, 2014 8:13 pm

Exactly. Has Bledsoe said he wants to play for the suns? No. Has he said he wants to play for the lakers? No. It's about money. The suns plan to match whatever offer he signs. Until then there is nothing to be done.
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Post#179 » by sunsbum » Tue Jul 22, 2014 8:13 pm

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Nando88 wrote:Has Chris Broussard's sources confirmed half-life 3 yet?


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Confirmed.


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Post#180 » by Suns Court 23 » Tue Jul 22, 2014 8:14 pm

hey I'm new but I have been reading this forum for about a year or 2 now and thought I should start posting. I love reading what all of you have to say. As far as this Bledsoe situation goes, I have to hope that we stick with our
offer or sign-and-trade him. I just don't want to get stuck with him having the MAX, unless there is a team option or something after year 3 if that is possible. Whatever decision the front office makes, whether it is a sign-and-trade or whatever I will respect and continue to watch the Suns. I can't wait to start posting here and keep reading all of your posts.

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