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Re: Fake Trade Thread 2014-15 

Post#1241 » by BeesWax » Tue Jul 22, 2014 6:21 pm

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jdm3 wrote:
BobsBuddy wrote::o :-? Trade Checker 6492750 Hendo,Jt 2015 1st round pick for Ilyasova and Milwaukees 2015 2nd round pick.
Williams can be moved to 3 to start and Ilyasova starts at 4 ,Al at 5 Lance at 2 and Kemba at point..
If we sign Josh Davis he can play 3 or 4, as a Rodman type player, Mkg can come off bench as backup at 3
Zellar backsup Ilya..... Vonleh can play 4 or 5
Al at Center.. Biz or Vonleh..backup minutes
Neal and Hairston can backup Lance
Roberts backsup Kemba at point and Pargo gives us another outside 3 point shooter.


Experienced Starters,Best bench in the NBA. Eastern Conference finals maybe more. :nod:

Bad trade. Still way overcrowded at SG. Williams wouldn't start over MKG either because we would have to have his defense. Also you now have 16 players with Davis and Ilyasova. All around poor trade.


Consider who created the trade.

I am not saying I expected better from the source but it still needed to be said.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 2014-15 

Post#1242 » by TheKingofSting » Wed Jul 23, 2014 4:58 am

I made it to MKG coming of the bench somehow.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 2014-15 

Post#1243 » by BobsBuddy » Wed Jul 23, 2014 4:39 pm

:crazy: :nonono: It's 14 players after Hendo and Jt are traded and Ilyasova,Davis added not 16.
You maybe right on it being a bad trade including Hendo if Lance doesn't work out.

We have a hole on offense at 3... If JT is "fully" recovered and Zellar has learned to make 3s maybe we just stay put. If not then maybe:
Trade Checker# 6494180 Zellar,JT for Dudley,Davis 2015 Second from LAC?
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Trade Checker# 6494225 MKG for Brewer from Minnesota?
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 2014-15 

Post#1244 » by HornetJail » Wed Jul 23, 2014 4:42 pm

BobsBuddy wrote:... If [...] Zellar has learned to make 3s [...]

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Re: Fake Trade Thread 2014-15 

Post#1245 » by BeesWax » Wed Jul 23, 2014 5:20 pm

BobsBuddy wrote::crazy: :nonono: It's 14 players after Hendo and Jt are traded and Ilyasova,Davis added not 16.
You maybe right on it being a bad trade including Hendo if Lance doesn't work out.

We have a hole on offense at 3... If JT is "fully" recovered and Zellar has learned to make 3s maybe we just stay put. If not then maybe:
Trade Checker# 6494180 Zellar,JT for Dudley,Davis 2015 Second from LAC?
OR
Trade Checker# 6494225 MKG for Brewer from Minnesota?

Sorry it was so poorly written up I missed that you had traded those two. Still a terrible trade and bad idea though. Should mention it is Zeller not Zellar and both those other trades are worse than your first one and that is truly saying something.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 2014-15 

Post#1246 » by Liver_Pooty » Wed Jul 23, 2014 5:24 pm

jdm3 wrote:
BobsBuddy wrote::crazy: :nonono: It's 14 players after Hendo and Jt are traded and Ilyasova,Davis added not 16.
You maybe right on it being a bad trade including Hendo if Lance doesn't work out.

We have a hole on offense at 3... If JT is "fully" recovered and Zellar has learned to make 3s maybe we just stay put. If not then maybe:
Trade Checker# 6494180 Zellar,JT for Dudley,Davis 2015 Second from LAC?
OR
Trade Checker# 6494225 MKG for Brewer from Minnesota?

Sorry it was so poorly written up I missed that you had traded those two. Still a terrible trade and bad idea though. Should mention it is Zeller not Zellar and both those other trades are worse than your first one and that is truly saying something.


Lol. Take it easy there killer.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 2014-15 

Post#1247 » by Eoghan » Wed Jul 23, 2014 5:26 pm

MKG for Brewer, wow. That would make even Master Ichiro blush.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 2014-15 

Post#1248 » by HornetJail » Wed Jul 23, 2014 5:42 pm

BrotherDave wrote:MKG for Brewer, wow. That would make even Master Ichiro blush.

Who was the guy that was trying to use stats and the eye test to prove Brewer>MKG before last season?
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 2014-15 

Post#1249 » by BeesWax » Wed Jul 23, 2014 5:54 pm

Liver_Pooty wrote:
jdm3 wrote:
BobsBuddy wrote::crazy: :nonono: It's 14 players after Hendo and Jt are traded and Ilyasova,Davis added not 16.
You maybe right on it being a bad trade including Hendo if Lance doesn't work out.

We have a hole on offense at 3... If JT is "fully" recovered and Zellar has learned to make 3s maybe we just stay put. If not then maybe:
Trade Checker# 6494180 Zellar,JT for Dudley,Davis 2015 Second from LAC?
OR
Trade Checker# 6494225 MKG for Brewer from Minnesota?

Sorry it was so poorly written up I missed that you had traded those two. Still a terrible trade and bad idea though. Should mention it is Zeller not Zellar and both those other trades are worse than your first one and that is truly saying something.


Lol. Take it easy there killer.

Sorry but I mean really? Who thinks these are good ideas?
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 2014-15 

Post#1250 » by LofJ » Wed Jul 23, 2014 6:05 pm

BizGilwalker wrote:
BrotherDave wrote:MKG for Brewer, wow. That would make even Master Ichiro blush.

Who was the guy that was trying to use stats and the eye test to prove Brewer>MKG before last season?


I know lot of people don't take much stock in HS recruiting rankings, but for determining talent tiers they are a useful tool. MKG's RSCI was 3 for his class, Brewer's was 25. But yeah Brewer is a better player to have on your team than MKG.... :crazy:

For the sake of comparison here are the RSCI rankings for some of the other players on our roster:

Kemba - 15
Jefferson - 3
Henderson - 10
Vonleh - 8
Zeller - 10
Williams - 7
Stephenson - 8
Hairston - 11

Vonleh would have been higher if not for reclassifying and Stephenson undoubtably took a hit from his off the court troubles. But it's pretty clear to see that most of the best players in the NBA are within the top 20 range of the RSCI rankings.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 2014-15 

Post#1251 » by HornetJail » Wed Jul 23, 2014 6:08 pm

jdm3 wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:
jdm3 wrote:Sorry it was so poorly written up I missed that you had traded those two. Still a terrible trade and bad idea though. Should mention it is Zeller not Zellar and both those other trades are worse than your first one and that is truly saying something.


Lol. Take it easy there killer.

Sorry but I mean really? Who thinks these are good ideas?

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Re: Fake Trade Thread 2014-15 

Post#1252 » by Liver_Pooty » Wed Jul 23, 2014 6:08 pm

jdm3 wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:
jdm3 wrote:Sorry it was so poorly written up I missed that you had traded those two. Still a terrible trade and bad idea though. Should mention it is Zeller not Zellar and both those other trades are worse than your first one and that is truly saying something.


Lol. Take it easy there killer.

Sorry but I mean really? Who thinks these are good ideas?


I've seen 2 or 3 post of BobsBuddy where he writes eloquently and makes a ton of sense, which is why I believe he just throws stuff out there like this to get a rise out of people. I find it humorous most of the time.

Edit: Nevermind, I might be getting him confused with GoBobs.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 2014-15 

Post#1253 » by BeesWax » Wed Jul 23, 2014 6:46 pm

Liver_Pooty wrote:
jdm3 wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:
Lol. Take it easy there killer.

Sorry but I mean really? Who thinks these are good ideas?


I've seen 2 or 3 post of BobsBuddy where he writes eloquently and makes a ton of sense, which is why I believe he just throws stuff out there like this to get a rise out of people. I find it humorous most of the time.

Edit: Nevermind, I might be getting him confused with GoBobs.

Yeah he might do this to just get a rise out of people. I have never seen the good posts if they are there.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 2014-15 

Post#1254 » by amcoolio » Wed Jul 23, 2014 9:01 pm

I wonder what it would take to sneak in and get McDermott from the Wolves if they accept that Bulls trade. Probably multiple 1st round picks, they wouldn't want salary or Zeller. Oh well. He'd be perfect here even still.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 2014-15 

Post#1255 » by Braggins » Wed Jul 23, 2014 9:26 pm

I really want to package Zeller + Neal + a 2nd round pick for an upgrade at PF. This would allow us to resign CDR and give him minutes at SG while Hendo mostly plays as backup SF and would really give us a strong bench. Brian Roberts, CDR, Hendo, Williams, Biyombo is very solid and well balanced and a lot of the time we could have Lance and even our starting PF bleeding into the second unit to really add some potency. I'm very disappointed with how content we apparently are with Williams as our starting PF. We don't seem to be making any effort to upgrade this position even though it is most likely absolutely necessary.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 2014-15 

Post#1256 » by HornetJail » Wed Jul 23, 2014 9:29 pm

amcoolio wrote:I wonder what it would take to sneak in and get McDermott from the Wolves if they accept that Bulls trade. Probably multiple 1st round picks, they wouldn't want salary or Zeller. Oh well. He'd be perfect here even still.

I think Minnesota would want Zeller. Once Love is gone, they should trade Pekovic and go to an uptempo style of play.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 2014-15 

Post#1257 » by MKGsMotor » Wed Jul 23, 2014 9:46 pm

McDermott is gonna FLOP hard in the NBA. I don't see how you all don't see it. All the signs point to it. Too slow to guard on the perimeter, too weak and small to bang down low. He's a positionless tweener. He had a legendary career playing for his dad in college, but its a different game up here. He's not gonna have daddy's offense in the NBA. His ceiling is Matt Bonnar.

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Re: Fake Trade Thread 2014-15 

Post#1258 » by amcoolio » Wed Jul 23, 2014 10:01 pm

MKGsMotor wrote:McDermott is gonna FLOP hard in the NBA. I don't see how you all don't see it. All the signs point to it. Too slow to guard on the perimeter, too weak and small to bang down low. He's a positionless tweener. He had a legendary career playing for his dad in college, but its a different game up here. He's not gonna have daddy's offense in the NBA. His ceiling is Matt Bonnar.

YEAH I SAID IT


No way. He looked like a taller current Kyle Korver in SL. He would be awesome with MKG-Lance-Al Jeff small ball lineups.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 2014-15 

Post#1259 » by HornetJail » Wed Jul 23, 2014 10:07 pm

MKGsMotor wrote:McDermott is gonna FLOP hard in the NBA. I don't see how you all don't see it. All the signs point to it. Too slow to guard on the perimeter, too weak and small to bang down low. He's a positionless tweener. He had a legendary career playing for his dad in college, but its a different game up here. He's not gonna have daddy's offense in the NBA. His ceiling is Matt Bonnar.

YEAH I SAID IT

At worst, he'll be what Kyle Korver is to the Hawks. He'll be fantastic if he stays in Chicago with Thibs and this current core.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 2014-15 

Post#1260 » by MKGsMotor » Wed Jul 23, 2014 10:20 pm

BizGilwalker wrote:
MKGsMotor wrote:McDermott is gonna FLOP hard in the NBA. I don't see how you all don't see it. All the signs point to it. Too slow to guard on the perimeter, too weak and small to bang down low. He's a positionless tweener. He had a legendary career playing for his dad in college, but its a different game up here. He's not gonna have daddy's offense in the NBA. His ceiling is Matt Bonnar.

YEAH I SAID IT

At worst, he'll be what Kyle Korver is to the Hawks. He'll be fantastic if he stays in Chicago with Thibs and this current core.


At worst he'll be one of the best 3 point shooters in league history? Come on, now. Are we really using that as an "at worst"?
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