Fake Trade Thread 2014-15

[BeesWax]

Also... Neal and Taylor for Kevin Martin?

To be consistent everywhere I see it. Bad trade.

[Dancingpanda]

Say the Sterling situation isn't resolved and CP3 requests a trade. What do you offer to get him here?

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ly7z5yl

This makes Sterling very happy and we get Paul

[Eoghan]

I wouldn't give much for CP3. He doesn't get "it."

[TheKingofSting]

I'd rather just wait on Steph.

[HornetJail]

Say the Sterling situation isn't resolved and CP3 requests a trade. What do you offer to get him here?

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ly7z5yl

This makes Sterling very happy and we get Paul

Shouldn't the Sixers at least have the decency to give the Clippers Byron Mullens in that deal?

[BuzzCity]

Hornets trade: Zeller, Henderson, Neal, Taylor and a 2nd
Hornets get: Jeff Green and KMart

C- Big Al/BIz
PF- Green/Vonleh
SF- MKG/Marvin
SG- Lance/KMart/PJ
PG- Kemba/Roberts/Pargo

This would be the best 2nd unit we have had in team history...matter of fact, i'd be willing to go so far as to say it could have beaten some starting line-ups in years past haha...my favorite part about this trade is that Green and Marvin are able to play the 3 and 4...imagine all the kinds of rotations we could have out there...not to mention, this opens up 2 more roster spots for us...i would personally like to add some depth to the front court...there are still some vets available out there...Amundson, Brand, Al Harrington, Maxiell, O'neal, Oden...i'd also love to sign Josh Davis to our squad...loved watching him play in the summer league...brings a lot of energy and grabs boards with the best of them

Wolves trade: Love, JJ, KMart
Wolves get: Lee, Klay, Cody Zeller and Nedovic

Wolves move KMart and JJ like they have been rumored to want to. Get their guy in Klay plus keep a good front court for now and the future

Warriors trade: Klay, Lee and Nedovic
Warriors get: Love and Henderson

No way the Warriors pay Klay a max contract next year...if they are gunna pay one, it's to Love...while Henderson isn't the shooter Klay is, he can still start at the 2 for GS


Celtics trade: Green
Celtics get: Neal, JJ, Taylor and Hornets 2nd

I think the Celtics do this for 2 reasons. They realize that they can't put together a good enough package for Love so they help ensure that he stays in the West and doesn't end up on the Cavs. 2nd reason is because they know Jeff Green will opt out and rather break his contract up into several smaller expirings to possibly be used at the trade deadline. They know they aren't contenders right now, so worst case, they remain quiet at the deadline and let them expire while adding a 2nd rounder

[kbrow20]

Why don't you guys make a offer for Love?

I am sure if you would offer Zeller + Hendo + Neal + Vonleh + Hairston for Love + Turiaf + GR3. That would be higher than the Cavs.

[BuzzCity]

Why don't you guys make a offer for Love?

I am sure if you would offer Zeller + Hendo + Neal + Vonleh + Hairston for Love + Turiaf + GR3. That would be higher than the Cavs.

It would only happen if Love agreed to a long term deal...and in that case, we would...but would that really be higher than the Cavs offer?

[HornetJail]

Why don't you guys make a offer for Love?

I am sure if you would offer Zeller + Hendo + Neal + Vonleh + Hairston for Love + Turiaf + GR3. That would be higher than the Cavs.

Unless Love commits to an extension, and Steve Clifford can manage to turn him and Big Al together into a passable defensive combo, I highly doubt we'd even offer that much. I'd be very worried about our interior defense with those two together.

We aren't interested in topping any offer from Cleveland or Golden State that included Wiggins or Klay Thompson. Vonleh and Zeller alone probably top a package revolving around Waiters, Bennett, and TT. But if the rumors are true and Cleveland is stupid enough to throw away Andrew Wiggins in a Love deal, then nobody else is getting Love but them.

[og15]

:roll: Getting Back to Fake trades..Here are the facts:

The Hornets are weak at backup center and small forward and overloaded at shooting guard.
They want to keep Hendo into the season before trading him to make sure Lance will be a good fit at SG.
The team is high on PJ even with his baggage. That leaves Neal as trade bait.
Trade Checker # 6495771 Neal and JT for Dudley (LAC) Then we sign Josh Davis6'9"215 from SL MKG,Dudley,Davis ?
Trade Checker# 6495776 (after 9-10-14) Biz and Miami's 2019 2nd roundpick for T.Zellar and Faverina from (BOS).....We are deep at the center position and add Size ....Al TZel Fav?

This fills the holes and Gives us a great starting 5 with also deep bench.
KW,Rob,Par
LS Hendo,PJ
MKG,Dud,Davis
Williams CZELL,Vonleh
Al,TZELL,FAV

The starters have Williams/Al who have experience playing together down low and second team has Zellar brothers who have played together all their life. Insert PJ for Hendo and Vonleh for CZELL when we need to score more.
and when we need boards insert Josh "Rodman"Davis.

Gary Neal doesn't make sense for the Clippers. Clippers only have two guys that right now can truly be counted on as SF's. Barnes and Dudley, so trading one, the team will at least want a player that can play SG/SF.

Clippers SG's: Redick, Crawford, Wilcox and Bullock is maybe a SG, maybe a SF.

Gary Neal wouldn't ever see the court behind Redick and Crawford, and he's not at PG either as he sucks there anyways. Again, Jeff Taylor is another SG. The only SG on the Bobcats the Clippers would be interested in that is acquirable would be Hendo, and that's because he's a guy who at least defends well and has some length and athletic ability and can be put at SF without you feeling he will get crushed. Outside of someone like that, adding small or offensive SG's is of no value to the Clippers team unless of course it is a player that is better than the Redick and/or Jamal, but that wouldn't be offered anyways.

It is possible that the Clippers wouldn't object to something like Dudley and Bullock for Henderson depending on how Doc is feeling about Bullock. I actually don't think he's too sour on Dudley despite his struggling season after battling tendinitis last season, he's more likely to play better than play worse than last season. He's still a nice shooter at SF. I do think the Clippers FO realizes that it needs to add more defense, athleticism and length at the wing positions though.

[HornetJail]

Hornets trade: Zeller, Henderson, Neal, Taylor and a 2nd
Hornets get: Jeff Green and KMart

C- Big Al/BIz
PF- Green/Vonleh
SF- MKG/Marvin
SG- Lance/KMart/PJ
PG- Kemba/Roberts/Pargo

This would be the best 2nd unit we have had in team history...matter of fact, i'd be willing to go so far as to say it could have beaten some starting line-ups in years past haha...my favorite part about this trade is that Green and Marvin are able to play the 3 and 4...imagine all the kinds of rotations we could have out there...not to mention, this opens up 2 more roster spots for us...i would personally like to add some depth to the front court...there are still some vets available out there...Amundson, Brand, Al Harrington, Maxiell, O'neal, Oden...i'd also love to sign Josh Davis to our squad...loved watching him play in the summer league...brings a lot of energy and grabs boards with the best of them

Wolves trade: Love, JJ, KMart
Wolves get: Lee, Klay, Cody Zeller and Nedovic

Wolves move KMart and JJ like they have been rumored to want to. Get their guy in Klay plus keep a good front court for now and the future

Warriors trade: Klay, Lee and Nedovic
Warriors get: Love and Henderson

No way the Warriors pay Klay a max contract next year...if they are gunna pay one, it's to Love...while Henderson isn't the shooter Klay is, he can still start at the 2 for GS


Celtics trade: Green
Celtics get: Neal, JJ, Taylor and Hornets 2nd

I think the Celtics do this for 2 reasons. They realize that they can't put together a good enough package for Love so they help ensure that he stays in the West and doesn't end up on the Cavs. 2nd reason is because they know Jeff Green will opt out and rather break his contract up into several smaller expirings to possibly be used at the trade deadline. They know they aren't contenders right now, so worst case, they remain quiet at the deadline and let them expire while adding a 2nd rounder

I definitely do this.
Al/Biz
Green/Williams/Vonleh
MKG/Hairston
Lance/Martin
Kemba/Roberts/Pargo

There are legitimately 8 starting caliber players on that roster. That is STACKED.

I mostly like it for Golden State as long as Bogut's healthy. Henderson would be at his absolute best next to someone like Curry and of course Kevin Love's an upgrade and can make up for the 3s they give up by downgrading from Klay to Henderson.

I think Green is worth more than this, but I also have a higher opinion of Green than a lot of people here.

I actually like this all-around except for the Minnesota part- what direction does Minny go from there? Klay would be on a near-max deal, and Lee would still be on the books for two years. Klay is a win-now piece and Minnesota isn't close to be a win-now team. Then again, Minny is damned if they do, damned if they don't. If I'm Minnesota, I look for a taker that will give me a ton of young pieces, picks, and stuff for Love, then I do the same for Pekovic, Rubio, Martin, and tank the $#!& out of next season, fire the coaching staff, the front office, the scouting team... overhaul absolutely everything possible. They simply can't stay where they are. They're picking 9-12 every year, and that isn't changing unless they bottom out. They've drafted horribly, made bad signings, and made other bad decisions about the roster. Even if they'd cracked the 8th seed and won a single game in the playoffs, it would be something to build on, but no, they are where they are- 10th, 11th place in the West, winning about 40 games a season, in a stacked conference where you pretty much need 48 or more to make the playoffs. It's a crappy situation to be in, but that core is never making the playoffs. They definitely have to trade Love, but I'm not quite sure this is the trade that they go with.

[HornetJail]

It is possible that the Clippers wouldn't object to something like Dudley and Bullock for Henderson depending on how Doc is feeling about Bullock. I actually don't think he's too sour on Dudley despite his struggling season after battling tendinitis last season, he's more likely to play better than play worse than last season. He's still a nice shooter at SF. I do think the Clippers FO realizes that it needs to add more defense, athleticism and length at the wing positions though.

I would do this all day. Hendo can play the SF position pretty well too. He's only 6'5 but is strong, very athletic, and has long arms, so being 6'5 really doesn't hurt him at all. He's not guarding big SFs like Durant or anything, but he isn't too small to guard regular sized SFs.

[og15]

It is possible that the Clippers wouldn't object to something like Dudley and Bullock for Henderson depending on how Doc is feeling about Bullock. I actually don't think he's too sour on Dudley despite his struggling season after battling tendinitis last season, he's more likely to play better than play worse than last season. He's still a nice shooter at SF. I do think the Clippers FO realizes that it needs to add more defense, athleticism and length at the wing positions though.

I would do this all day. Hendo can play the SF position pretty well too. He's only 6'5 but is strong, very athletic, and has long arms, so being 6'5 really doesn't hurt him at all. He's not guarding big SFs like Durant or anything, but he isn't too small to guard regular sized SFs.

I do think that Doc wants to start the season with those two guys and see how they play, maybe up their trade value, maybe see who wins out in training camp. Dudley could play himself into being a starter again, and maybe it is Barnes they look to move for more athleticism, who is a bit harder to trade in this scenario as the $1M less he makes becomes a factor in matching contracts.

Bullock was a rookie who is projected as a role player, so we have no clue how he will look in his second year, but I think there have been some mentions of Doc liking Henderson before, so at the least it is probably an idea in his head after he's decided what direction he wants to go with those guys.

[JDR720]

Why don't you guys make a offer for Love?

I am sure if you would offer Zeller + Hendo + Neal + Vonleh + Hairston for Love + Turiaf + GR3. That would be higher than the Cavs.

No way in the world would he sign an extension here.

[kbrow20]

Why don't you guys make a offer for Love?

I am sure if you would offer Zeller + Hendo + Neal + Vonleh + Hairston for Love + Turiaf + GR3. That would be higher than the Cavs.

No way in the world would he sign an extension here.

He would if you guys are contenders. I think Love + Big Al + Walker + Stephenson = Playoffs

[Eoghan]

Interesting fact: Bullock's transgender sibling passed away recently.

[Eoghan]

Why don't you guys make a offer for Love?

I am sure if you would offer Zeller + Hendo + Neal + Vonleh + Hairston for Love + Turiaf + GR3. That would be higher than the Cavs.

No way in the world would he sign an extension here.

He would if you guys are contenders. I think Love + Big Al + Walker + Stephenson = Playoffs

That = 1st round exit.

Kemba + Lance + MKG + Love + Biz + Big Al as 6th man = very interesting though.

[HornetJail]

No way in the world would he sign an extension here.

He would if you guys are contenders. I think Love + Big Al + Walker + Stephenson = Playoffs

That = 1st round exit.

Kemba + Lance + MKG + Love + Biz + Big Al as 6th man = very interesting though.

[Liver_Pooty]

He would if you guys are contenders. I think Love + Big Al + Walker + Stephenson = Playoffs

That = 1st round exit.

Kemba + Lance + MKG + Love + Biz + Big Al as 6th man = very interesting though.

He basically means Love has to have a rim protector beside him, but bringing Jefferson off the bench? Pass.

[BeesWax]

Hornets trade: Zeller, Henderson, Neal, Taylor and a 2nd
Hornets get: Jeff Green and KMart

C- Big Al/BIz
PF- Green/Vonleh
SF- MKG/Marvin
SG- Lance/KMart/PJ
PG- Kemba/Roberts/Pargo

This would be the best 2nd unit we have had in team history...matter of fact, i'd be willing to go so far as to say it could have beaten some starting line-ups in years past haha...my favorite part about this trade is that Green and Marvin are able to play the 3 and 4...imagine all the kinds of rotations we could have out there...not to mention, this opens up 2 more roster spots for us...i would personally like to add some depth to the front court...there are still some vets available out there...Amundson, Brand, Al Harrington, Maxiell, O'neal, Oden...i'd also love to sign Josh Davis to our squad...loved watching him play in the summer league...brings a lot of energy and grabs boards with the best of them

Wolves trade: Love, JJ, KMart
Wolves get: Lee, Klay, Cody Zeller and Nedovic

Wolves move KMart and JJ like they have been rumored to want to. Get their guy in Klay plus keep a good front court for now and the future

Warriors trade: Klay, Lee and Nedovic
Warriors get: Love and Henderson

No way the Warriors pay Klay a max contract next year...if they are gunna pay one, it's to Love...while Henderson isn't the shooter Klay is, he can still start at the 2 for GS


Celtics trade: Green
Celtics get: Neal, JJ, Taylor and Hornets 2nd

I think the Celtics do this for 2 reasons. They realize that they can't put together a good enough package for Love so they help ensure that he stays in the West and doesn't end up on the Cavs. 2nd reason is because they know Jeff Green will opt out and rather break his contract up into several smaller expirings to possibly be used at the trade deadline. They know they aren't contenders right now, so worst case, they remain quiet at the deadline and let them expire while adding a 2nd rounder

Like adding Green but hate the idea of Martin. Would rather just do a better trade to land Green and avoid the damage that is Martin.