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The One And Only Offseason Thread 4

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Re: The One And Only Offseason Thread 4 

Post#661 » by Zelaznyrules » Sat Jul 26, 2014 7:58 pm

I'm a Bledsoe fan. I think the people that have been upset over his lack of declared love of the city or his reluctance to comment positively are inventing problems. I think the people that advocate we simply trade him are being shortsighted. He's a dynamic player and unless you get a player of that caliber in return (and Monroe is NOT that caliber of player, not by a long shot), it's a move that will surely haunt us in the years to come. All that said, this comment is alarming. His agent feeds him this stuff and he's apparently eating it up. It will be hard to find a happy medium if his agent works this way. I would still try to find a way to work this out but I like our chances much less today than I did yesterday.
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Post#662 » by RunDogGun » Sat Jul 26, 2014 8:00 pm

BurningHeart wrote:This loser Bledsoe is pissing me off.

Get rid of him. I don't want idiots like him on my team. I don't care how good they are. This guy is cut out of the mold of the "2014 Athlete" and I can't stand that ****. The primadonna bull is enough.

"The rules against you"?! Shut the **** up, B. What a whining ****.

Dude, you crack me up. Sometimes you are the guy in red sitting on my shoulder. :lol:
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Re: The One And Only Offseason Thread 4 

Post#663 » by PhxSuns1 » Sat Jul 26, 2014 8:06 pm

There is a phrase we use in futbol(soccer). "Playing for shirt". Its when you leave it all out on the floor every night because you fully love the team you are playing with. In other words, you bleed purple and orange. Its clear thats not the case with Bledsoe.
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Re: The One And Only Offseason Thread 4 

Post#664 » by King4Day » Sat Jul 26, 2014 8:07 pm

I can definitely understand why some want Bledsoe gone but from a talent standpoint, it would be a severe setback if we lost him. This is all part of negotiations. he's upset but the Suns are doing nothing wrong. We said we'll match anything. Teams try to call 'bluffs' all the time. We did it with Eric Gordon hoping the Hornets (at the time) would not match. They did.
Hayward to Charlotte? Same deal.
Parsons to Dallas..

Other teams could have easily tried calling our bluff but chose not to. So how are we at fault if he and his 'super agent' couldn't get a team to bite?
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Post#665 » by BurningHeart » Sat Jul 26, 2014 8:11 pm

There's negotiations, and there's idiocy.

Stop defending idiocy.
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Re: The One And Only Offseason Thread 4 

Post#666 » by PhxSuns1 » Sat Jul 26, 2014 8:11 pm

Anyone who isnt pissed by this is lying to themselves. He is actively portraying himself as a victim to the "antagonist" Suns. This is bull.
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Post#667 » by RunDogGun » Sat Jul 26, 2014 8:16 pm

DarkHawk wrote:I can definitely understand why some want Bledsoe gone but from a talent standpoint, it would be a severe setback if we lost him. This is all part of negotiations. he's upset but the Suns are doing nothing wrong. We said we'll match anything. Teams try to call 'bluffs' all the time. We did it with Eric Gordon hoping the Hornets (at the time) would not match. They did.
Hayward to Charlotte? Same deal.
Parsons to Dallas..

Other teams could have easily tried calling our bluff but chose not to. So how are we at fault if he and his 'super agent' couldn't get a team to bite?

It would be tough to lose him, but if he isn't happy now....I'm not too sure he will be come Sept. But this whole thing could be blown out of proportion. But the comment seems very cry baby-ish.
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Re: The One And Only Offseason Thread 4 

Post#668 » by drewsprocket » Sat Jul 26, 2014 8:17 pm

What a F'ng moron statement to make in the public. Whiny victim stance to make during a crucial time when he's trying to get other offers from other teams. The suns made a good offer to him and the rest is on him to negotiate. I'd have an easier time being sympathetic to his cause if he came out and said the Heat free agents stole his offers.

This error makes me think he's likely to make another bone-headed decision given how much of a victim he thinks he is. I'd personally take the deal or try for a few bucks more with an early player option.

It's dumb because I've been waiting for good news and am met with his public comments that he's being unfairly treated by standard **** restricted free agent practices. The only reason he has the problem is because of his injury this past year and the Heat free agents. Good on the suns -- now they almost have to hold him over the barrel to ensure they don't lose good on his talents. Hopefully McD will turn it around.
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Post#669 » by PhxSuns1 » Sat Jul 26, 2014 8:19 pm

Also, how the **** has anything that has happened thus far been us using the rules against him? You want more money, you are free to sign a **** offer sheet with another team. Just because no one else is offering you the max means us not doing it as well is using the rules against you? Jesus. This guy is a **** moron. What a childish little bitch. Stay away from my team.
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Post#670 » by LV-Suns » Sat Jul 26, 2014 8:21 pm

Not angry at all and I am huge Bledsoe fan. I am still 90% sure he will be wearing a Suns uni come next season. The management offered him fair market value, and let him find a max contract elsewhere in the market. There is no games played here, Bledoe just had unrealistic expectations about himself after playing well for half season in probably the most stacked position. If anything, I applaud the management for sticking to their guts, even if he is one of our own.
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Post#671 » by letsgosuns » Sat Jul 26, 2014 8:21 pm

This is disappointing for sure. The biggest reason is because Bledsoe is awesome and a potential superstar if healthy. On other hand, he is coming off like a jerk with asinine expectations. Who does he think he is? There is a reason why no team offered him a max and dared the Suns to match it. It is because no one wants to give a guy a max deal who has the injury history he has. Look at Hayward. Several teams were willing to max him immediately even though there was a virtual guarantee the Jazz would match. A team did it anyway. I think Bledsoe is a better player than Hayward but Hayward has not had two knee surgeries on the same knee as far as I know. Plus as I stated before, Bledsoe is a little guy that plays inside which unfortunately puts him at a greater risk for future injuries. I kind of had a feeling the Suns were prepared to lose Bledsoe all along after they signed Thomas, in addition to drafting Ennis. I just have no idea who they can sign and trade him to now.
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Re: The One And Only Offseason Thread 4 

Post#672 » by drewsprocket » Sat Jul 26, 2014 8:22 pm

yo Kerrsed, or somebody light up Bled with a crybaby meme!
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Re: The One And Only Offseason Thread 4 

Post#673 » by King4Day » Sat Jul 26, 2014 8:23 pm

RunDogGun wrote:
DarkHawk wrote:I can definitely understand why some want Bledsoe gone but from a talent standpoint, it would be a severe setback if we lost him. This is all part of negotiations. he's upset but the Suns are doing nothing wrong. We said we'll match anything. Teams try to call 'bluffs' all the time. We did it with Eric Gordon hoping the Hornets (at the time) would not match. They did.
Hayward to Charlotte? Same deal.
Parsons to Dallas..

Other teams could have easily tried calling our bluff but chose not to. So how are we at fault if he and his 'super agent' couldn't get a team to bite?

It would be tough to lose him, but if he isn't happy now....I'm not too sure he will be come Sept. But this whole thing could be blown out of proportion. But the comment seems very cry baby-ish.


No doubt. Batum had said he wanted to be in Minnesota and Gordon said the same about Phoenix. Once the contract is signed it's all forgotten
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Post#674 » by LV-Suns » Sat Jul 26, 2014 8:24 pm

I just hope it doesn't end up being a Joe Johnson/Harden situation. Retain him at all costs, even if he unhappy during all these negotiations. He will always have trade value elsewhere if it doesn't blow away.
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Re: The One And Only Offseason Thread 4 

Post#675 » by RunDogGun » Sat Jul 26, 2014 8:27 pm

I think we should lower the offer to 4 years $40 million. :lol:
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Re: The One And Only Offseason Thread 4 

Post#676 » by RunDogGun » Sat Jul 26, 2014 8:29 pm

DarkHawk wrote:
RunDogGun wrote:
DarkHawk wrote:I can definitely understand why some want Bledsoe gone but from a talent standpoint, it would be a severe setback if we lost him. This is all part of negotiations. he's upset but the Suns are doing nothing wrong. We said we'll match anything. Teams try to call 'bluffs' all the time. We did it with Eric Gordon hoping the Hornets (at the time) would not match. They did.
Hayward to Charlotte? Same deal.
Parsons to Dallas..

Other teams could have easily tried calling our bluff but chose not to. So how are we at fault if he and his 'super agent' couldn't get a team to bite?

It would be tough to lose him, but if he isn't happy now....I'm not too sure he will be come Sept. But this whole thing could be blown out of proportion. But the comment seems very cry baby-ish.


No doubt. Batum had said he wanted to be in Minnesota and Gordon said the same about Phoenix. Once the contract is signed it's all forgotten
but those guys got offers from those teams, so what were they supposed to say? They didn't complain like a baby about their teams.
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Re: The One And Only Offseason Thread 4 

Post#677 » by WeekapaugGroove » Sat Jul 26, 2014 8:29 pm

Welp maybe Bledsoe should run for union president and change these rules. Come on Eric don't hate the player hate the game dude.

I'm as big of a Bledsoe supporter as you'll find but I'm stating to wish there a was a sign and trade out there that made sense. Unfortunately I can't really see one.

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Re: The One And Only Offseason Thread 4 

Post#678 » by BurningHeart » Sat Jul 26, 2014 8:31 pm

I don't care if he signs with us still. This type of idiocy is symptomatic of athletes in sports today and that's not a culture I want here at all. This severely harms my level of respect for him.
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Re: The One And Only Offseason Thread 4 

Post#679 » by thamadkant » Sat Jul 26, 2014 8:32 pm

1. The comment is indeed a sign he is not happy with the "we'll match any offers" method. Since maybe he doesn't have any offers as well as no other teams can offer max, except Suns and 76ers.

2. "Bad blood" is a concern for sure, if he ends up staying there is a risk he sits out games, under performs etc, just like Eric Gordon. But Eric Gordon's situation is little muddier since he probably was injured also as well as pouting.

3. Ironically Bledsoe is only tradable if he isn't on a max contract. So that is the big struggle point for Rich Paul who is a scumbag IMO.

4. If he really does like Phoenix, he would of signed by now. Maybe countered the 48/4 with a 52/4 and call it a day.
He doesn't have any ties to phoenix...


This could also happen with Dragic next season.... I can smell a 17-18 million a year request from Dragic but Suns only seeing him as a 13-14 type of guy.
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Re: The One And Only Offseason Thread 4 

Post#680 » by BurningHeart » Sat Jul 26, 2014 8:34 pm

There's no way this type of situation happens with Dragic. Dragic is not an **** like Bledsoe is. He took less to come back to Phoenix after we traded him in one of the worst trades in our franchise's history.

Dude's loyal as hell.

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