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Re: The One And Only Offseason Thread 4 

Post#701 » by Sunsdeuce » Sat Jul 26, 2014 10:00 pm

http://beta.sportingnews.com/article/45 ... ree-agency

So just who is Paul?

1. He started his own agency, Klutch Sports Group, in September 2012, after learning from agent Leon Rose at Creative Artists Agency. Klutch Sports Group is located in Cleveland. He is joined by agent Mark Termini on Klutch's board.

2. Paul's second most noteworthy client is young guard Eric Bledsoe, who is a restricted free agent this offseason, but is expected to return to the Phoenix Suns.

3. Despite being the agent for the NBA's biggest star, Paul didn't graduate from college, which has inspired at least some animosity from competitors.

4. LeBron's return to Cleveland has been "something of a mission" for Paul, according to Wojnarowski.

5. Paul is actually LeBron's third agent. He replaced Leon Rose, who replaced Aaron Goodwin.

6. Unlike many in LeBron's inner circle, he isn't a childhood friend from Akron. Paul and James met in 2002 on the way to the Final Four and bonded over retro football jerseys, according to an ESPN the Magazine profile on Paul in 2012. (That profile is well worth a read in its entirety.)

7. Although he wasn't one of those childhood friends you might've seen in "More Than A Game," he was one of the "Four Horsemen" — LeBron James, Rich Paul, Maverick Carter and Randy Mims — who comprised LRMR.

8. He made another Woj cameo after Game 2 of the NBA Finals when he was denied entry to a postgame news conference. (He was not happy.)

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Re: The One And Only Offseason Thread 4 

Post#702 » by RunDogGun » Sat Jul 26, 2014 10:10 pm

Qwigglez wrote:Just do a S&T for Bledsoe.
Suns get Kevin Love and Kevin Martin and the Wolves get Bledsoe/Morris bros/Lakers 1st, Suns 1st, and their draft picks back.

I can see this happening 8-)

Why are we giving away so much? That's basically five first rounders for a rental, and a bad contract. :noway:
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Post#703 » by RunDogGun » Sat Jul 26, 2014 10:15 pm

RunDogGun wrote:
Qwigglez wrote:Just do a S&T for Bledsoe.
Suns get Kevin Love and Kevin Martin and the Wolves get Bledsoe/Morris bros/Lakers 1st, Suns 1st, and their draft picks back.

I can see this happening 8-)

Why are we giving away so much? That's basically five first rounders for a rental, and a bad contract. :noway:

Oops, six firsts. :oops: And why would Bledsoe want to come to Minny?
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Post#704 » by BobbieL » Sat Jul 26, 2014 10:26 pm

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spanishninja wrote:from the link:

"but it'd be nice if the two sides could get something fair done"

Offering Bledsoe a Lowry contract for 1/2 a year of Lowry performance was MORE than fair.

Wondering what the word "fair" means to Bledsoe and his agent? 80 million?


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It seems like LaCava didn't the quote in full context

That being said, there really isn't much for the Suns to negotiate now as there is nothing to negotiate against

Second, Bledsoe needs to come off 5/80 and move his figures to at worst, 4/63 - the max another team can pay.

As that is the highest contract the Suns will have to pay. Period. Rich Paul and Bledsoe need to understand that if Bledsoe wants to guarantee himself 45m more than 3.7m.

HIs choice in the end.
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Re: The One And Only Offseason Thread 4 

Post#705 » by Qwigglez » Sat Jul 26, 2014 10:27 pm

Martin is not a bad player at all and his contract is reasonable for his production value. With him and Gerald Green we'd shoot lights out. He's also a very good slasher and Dragic can hit him on the backdoor cut. We'd still be a very deep team and future first are great and all, but we have enough young players to develop as it is on the roster, and we got Bogdanovic overseas.

Dragic/Martin/Tucker/Love/Plumlee
Thomas/Green/Warren/Tolliver/Len

Could use a little more depth in the frontcourt, and maybe another veteran wing player.
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Post#706 » by aIvin adams » Sat Jul 26, 2014 10:28 pm

Rich Paul needs to get in LeBron's ear and convince him to demand the cavs trade for Bledsoe.

Of course we can't get fair value back, but maybe that athletic prospect they drafted this year from Kansas would be OK.
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Post#707 » by NaturalBuns » Sat Jul 26, 2014 10:29 pm

Been bad blood since may.
Ppl are just starting to realize that :lol:


That exit interview had bad news written all over it.
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Post#708 » by RunDogGun » Sat Jul 26, 2014 10:33 pm

Qwigglez wrote:Martin is not a bad player at all and his contract is reasonable for his production value. With him and Gerald Green we'd shoot lights out. He's also a very good slasher and Dragic can hit him on the backdoor cut. We'd still be a very deep team and future first are great and all, but we have enough young players to develop as it is on the roster, and we got Bogdanovic overseas.

Dragic/Martin/Tucker/Love/Plumlee
Thomas/Green/Warren/Tolliver/Len

Could use a little more depth in the frontcourt, and maybe another veteran wing player.

I just think we would be giving up too much production, and it still seems as if Love doesn't care to be in PHX. I watched a fair amount of Martin last year, and I'm not impressed for what he gets paid.

The Morrii was the reason our bench could hang into games, and I just don't know if Warren is ready yet.

Oh well, I don't even think that offer is on the table, so not much need worrying about it. :wink:
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Post#709 » by Stix » Sat Jul 26, 2014 10:52 pm

This is not going to end well. :nonono:
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Post#710 » by Saberestar » Sat Jul 26, 2014 11:08 pm

Well, with that statment he has made it clear that he does not feel himself like part of the team. He said "Phoenix Suns"... like "whatever team" against me.
I have been watching NBA a ton of years, and that type of comments are a very bad sign...it is not a tactic or something that his agent is working...it is more simple than that. He wants to play for another team or in another city BUT he would play here if , and only if, we pay him the absolut max...then he would make the "effort" to play for the Suns.
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Post#711 » by BobbieL » Sat Jul 26, 2014 11:23 pm

Saberestar wrote:Well, with that statment he has made it clear that he does not feel himself like part of the team. He said "Phoenix Suns"... like "whatever team" against me.
I have been watching NBA a ton of years, and that type of comments are a very bad sign...it is not a tactic or something that his agent is working...it is more simple than that. He wants to play for nother team or in another city BUT he would play here if , and only if, we pay him the absolut max...then he would make the "effort" to play for the Suns.


The longer it goes - I think he gets traded. Lakers would be my quess at this point as I said earlier.

Randle, Nash's contract to make the dollars work and the Houston pick

Lakers could include Hill but I would think they would rather move Nash than lose a big and since the only way a trade with the Lakers happen is Randle - that's my prediction.
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Post#712 » by Saberestar » Sat Jul 26, 2014 11:32 pm

Looking for good S&T options... what about Jrue Holiday? He is one year younger and is locked at $10-11M for the next three years. He had some injury last year, but he is a great player that can mesh very well with Dragic and Isaiah.He has good height and strengh, even better than Bledsoe to defend shooting guards.

We can make this trade straight up (getting a protected pick too) or work some trade for Holiday and Ryan Anderson.
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Post#713 » by JDLAW » Sat Jul 26, 2014 11:37 pm

The sky is falling… the sky is falling! :crazy: Bad blood since May :banghead: Let trade Bledsoe for s box of door knobs :crazy: .

Everyone just needs to chill - it is all going to be fine.
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Post#714 » by carey » Sat Jul 26, 2014 11:38 pm

Saberestar wrote:We can make this trade straight up (getting a protected pick too) or work some trade for Holiday and Ryan Anderson.


New Orleans already has one overpaid G with a knee injury history. I'm fairly certain they don't want another one.
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Re: The One And Only Offseason Thread 4 

Post#715 » by Sunsdeuce » Sat Jul 26, 2014 11:51 pm

JDLAW wrote:The sky is falling… the sky is falling! :crazy: Bad blood since May :banghead: Let trade Bledsoe for s box of door knobs :crazy: .

Everyone just needs to chill - it is all going to be fine.

If your saying Bledsoe is going to resign and all will be forgot, I disagree.

If your saying, the suns will work something out (maybe a trade), that benefits them, than yes I agree.


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Post#716 » by Saberestar » Sat Jul 26, 2014 11:52 pm

BobbieL wrote:
Saberestar wrote:Well, with that statment he has made it clear that he does not feel himself like part of the team. He said "Phoenix Suns"... like "whatever team" against me.
I have been watching NBA a ton of years, and that type of comments are a very bad sign...it is not a tactic or something that his agent is working...it is more simple than that. He wants to play for nother team or in another city BUT he would play here if , and only if, we pay him the absolut max...then he would make the "effort" to play for the Suns.


The longer it goes - I think he gets traded. Lakers would be my quess at this point as I said earlier.

Randle, Nash's contract to make the dollars work and the Houston pick

Lakers could include Hill but I would think they would rather move Nash than lose a big and since the only way a trade with the Lakers happen is Randle - that's my prediction.

It is a shame that Randle plays PF because I think we have good depth at this position and with Markieff we have one player that is way better than Randle right now and in the short future at least.
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Post#717 » by bwgood77 » Sat Jul 26, 2014 11:59 pm

NaturalBuns wrote:Been bad blood since may.
Ppl are just starting to realize that :lol:


That exit interview had bad news written all over it.
PERIOD.


People keep talking about this exit interview. Did they really show all the exit interviews with players? That seems strange to me. If so, can someone send me a link of it?
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Post#718 » by bwgood77 » Sun Jul 27, 2014 12:00 am

RunDogGun wrote:
Qwigglez wrote:Martin is not a bad player at all and his contract is reasonable for his production value. With him and Gerald Green we'd shoot lights out. He's also a very good slasher and Dragic can hit him on the backdoor cut. We'd still be a very deep team and future first are great and all, but we have enough young players to develop as it is on the roster, and we got Bogdanovic overseas.

Dragic/Martin/Tucker/Love/Plumlee
Thomas/Green/Warren/Tolliver/Len

Could use a little more depth in the frontcourt, and maybe another veteran wing player.

I just think we would be giving up too much production, and it still seems as if Love doesn't care to be in PHX. I watched a fair amount of Martin last year, and I'm not impressed for what he gets paid.

The Morrii was the reason our bench could hang into games, and I just don't know if Warren is ready yet.

Oh well, I don't even think that offer is on the table, so not much need worrying about it. :wink:


And there's the fact that Minnesota wouldn't do it anyway. That would be pretty important in the scenario.
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The One And Only Offseason Thread 4 

Post#719 » by Sunsdeuce » Sun Jul 27, 2014 12:00 am

Saberestar wrote:
BobbieL wrote:
Saberestar wrote:Well, with that statment he has made it clear that he does not feel himself like part of the team. He said "Phoenix Suns"... like "whatever team" against me.
I have been watching NBA a ton of years, and that type of comments are a very bad sign...it is not a tactic or something that his agent is working...it is more simple than that. He wants to play for nother team or in another city BUT he would play here if , and only if, we pay him the absolut max...then he would make the "effort" to play for the Suns.


The longer it goes - I think he gets traded. Lakers would be my quess at this point as I said earlier.

Randle, Nash's contract to make the dollars work and the Houston pick

Lakers could include Hill but I would think they would rather move Nash than lose a big and since the only way a trade with the Lakers happen is Randle - that's my prediction.

It is a shame that Randle plays PF because I think we have good depth at this position and with Markieff we have one player that is way better than Randle right now and in the short future at least.

I have to disagree. Markieff is the ONLY depth. Tolliver is an end of the bench guy, who will only be around one year. He is a stop gap and not a true power forward at all and has only value as a three point shooter. He doesn't rebound, block shots, or defend very well. Unless I'm forgetting someone who plays power forward currently on the suns roster, the power forwards, besides markieff, are almost non existent.

Actually markieff may be gone next year too. The power forward position is easily the weakest position on the suns by a wide margin.



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Post#720 » by Saberestar » Sun Jul 27, 2014 12:09 am

bwgood77 wrote:
NaturalBuns wrote:Been bad blood since may.
Ppl are just starting to realize that :lol:


That exit interview had bad news written all over it.
PERIOD.


People keep talking about this exit interview. Did they really show all the exit interviews with players? That seems strange to me. If so, can someone send me a link of it?

http://www.nba.com/suns/video/2014/04/1 ... ov-3241116

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