We get to see Derrick Rose live tonight at 9:00 EST on ESPN.

[CousinOfDeath]

Rose, instead, tried to do what was right and moral: Support your team and management, be a leader. It was the advice from Jeter. It’s why you never heard Jeter lobbying management for other free agents. Can you call for replacements and then look your teammates in the eye and say you have their back? That’s another reason why Jeter wore the label of captain with so much support.


Jeter plays baseball for the NY YANKEES.

Jeter has won 5 world series, and has only missed the playoffs twice in his 20 year career. He plays for the Yankees, a team that has the highest spending payroll in any sport. Jeter has never needed to recruit, the Yankees are the prime target for free agents.

To me comparing Jeter and Rose is apples and oranges.

This isn't a random comparison made by Sam Smith. It's the advice that Jeter gave Rose on being a leader. Jeter wouldn't have given Rose the advice if he didn't think Rose would be able to apply it to his own team and situation.

How exactly do you know that?

Isn't that an assumed thing when a person gives another person advice? Why would he give him advice that he couldn't apply to himself?

Also why is it everyone's first instinct to find a way to denounce a story like this?

[CousinOfDeath]

Rose, instead, tried to do what was right and moral: Support your team and management, be a leader. It was the advice from Jeter. It’s why you never heard Jeter lobbying management for other free agents. Can you call for replacements and then look your teammates in the eye and say you have their back? That’s another reason why Jeter wore the label of captain with so much support.


Jeter plays baseball for the NY YANKEES.

Jeter has won 5 world series, and has only missed the playoffs twice in his 20 year career. He plays for the Yankees, a team that has the highest spending payroll in any sport. Jeter has never needed to recruit, the Yankees are the prime target for free agents.

To me comparing Jeter and Rose is apples and oranges.

This isn't a random comparison made by Sam Smith. It's the advice that Jeter gave Rose on being a leader. Jeter wouldn't have given Rose the advice if he didn't think Rose would be able to apply it to his own team and situation.

I think the comparison is random because Jeter's situation is so much different than Rose's.

It is easy to say don't recruit when you have never needed to recruit.

I think if Jeter was injured for two years and the Yankees needed him to help attract star Free Agents Jeter would do so.

Well that's what you think, but it's not what Jeter thinks. Who exactly am I supposed to believe, regarding Jeter's thoughts?

[Jcool0]

This isn't a random comparison made by Sam Smith. It's the advice that Jeter gave Rose on being a leader. Jeter wouldn't have given Rose the advice if he didn't think Rose would be able to apply it to his own team and situation.

I think the comparison is random because Jeter's situation is so much different than Rose's.

It is easy to say don't recruit when you have never needed to recruit.

I think if Jeter was injured for two years and the Yankees needed him to help attract star Free Agents Jeter would do so.

Well that's what you think, but it's not what Jeter thinks. Who exactly am I supposed to believe, regarding Jeter's thoughts?

[umfan83]

Felt like this needed to be seen... May even need it's own thread...

Nah I don't buy it. Basketball culture is different than baseball culture. Recruiting stars has been the norm in the NBA for awhile, because with only 5 players on the court at once and 12 on a roster, one star added to a team impacts the overall team significantly more than a baseball team.

Oh ok you don't buy it. Guess it's all BS then.

We can move on now guys. Derrick's a bad leader and doesn't want to win or respect his teammates.

i didnt say that. I just said using a baseball player's example doesn't make sense to me. Derrick is a fine leader, I just don't agree with the whole 'not offending teammates' reasoning behind not recruiting. I doubt Mike Dunleavy lost respect for Jo because he pulled out all the stops to recruit Melo. At the end of the day, Derrick can do whatever he wants. I have no doubts about his work ethic and his ability to lead by example. If he doesn't want to recruit that's fine by me, but I don't agree with that reasoning, and believe it goes against his personal mantra of "I just want to weeen"

Look at the star players who have won the most titles in the modern NBA. As mentioned in the article, Jordan was notorious for recruiting players to make the team better. Pippen publicly ripped his teammate Barkley and engineered a trade to Portland for a better chance of winning a title. Kobe is in the same vein as Jordan, maybe even worse. Magic Johnson, again mentioned in the article, forced the Lakers to run any Lakers moves through him, hurting his public reputation in the process.

[AKfanatic]

Great article by Sam Smith

http://blogs.bulls.com/2014/07/derrick- ... all-court/

Some of the Rose defense in that article was humorous. I don't blame him for being injured, but to omit the name Reggie Rose it laughable. Pretending "anonymous sources" are some fictional, mythical beast that holds no real weight on the truth of the situation is also laughable. Guys like Bucher, using "anonymous sources" (*cough*Reggie Rose) called it before it happened. Also much of the hate the "community" gave Rose was brought on by himself. Releases if how great he felt, chain moving for comebacks, that was his doing and the laughable management team around him.

I hope Rose has grown and learned, I hope him health and success...however, much of the doubt in his sincerety and the sincerety of those advising him was brought on by themselves.

[Proven_Winner]

Great article by Sam Smith

http://blogs.bulls.com/2014/07/derrick- ... all-court/

Some of the Rose defense in that article was humorous. I don't blame him for being injured, but to omit the name Reggie Rose it laughable. Pretending "anonymous sources" are some fictional, mythical beast that holds no real weight on the truth of the situation is also laughable. Guys like Bucher, using "anonymous sources" (*cough*Reggie Rose) called it before it happened. Also much of the hate the "community" gave Rose was brought on by himself. Releases if how great he felt, chain moving for comebacks, that was his doing and the laughable management team around him.

I hope Rose has grown and learned, I hope him health and success...however, much of the doubt in his sincerety and the sincerety of those advising him was brought on by themselves.

If it makes you feel any better Derrick has only had about 2 to 5 interviews this year and there hasn't been much talk from Reggie so it seems like Rose is handling his business just fine.

[Gregnice33]

This isn't a random comparison made by Sam Smith. It's the advice that Jeter gave Rose on being a leader. Jeter wouldn't have given Rose the advice if he didn't think Rose would be able to apply it to his own team and situation.

I think the comparison is random because Jeter's situation is so much different than Rose's.

It is easy to say don't recruit when you have never needed to recruit.

I think if Jeter was injured for two years and the Yankees needed him to help attract star Free Agents Jeter would do so.

Well that's what you think, but it's not what Jeter thinks. Who exactly am I supposed to believe, regarding Jeter's thoughts?

Me of course

I am sure Jeter thinks his situation is analogous to Rose, but in reality is it not (for the reasons I mentioned above). Jeter represents the Yankees both on and off the field, he is their vocal leader. Rose isn't that guy, and that is ok, but I just wish Rose would seem a little more inviting.

Anyway, I hope Rose stays healthy and quickly regains his form. I can't wait to see him play.

[Southpaw]

Can't wait to see D.Rose play again!
Are those black pinstripes new? I remember them having BULLS in front instead of CHICAGO. They're niceee. I like the new shoes better than the leaked ones.

[Keller61]

I think the comparison is random because Jeter's situation is so much different than Rose's.

It is easy to say don't recruit when you have never needed to recruit.

I think if Jeter was injured for two years and the Yankees needed him to help attract star Free Agents Jeter would do so.

Well that's what you think, but it's not what Jeter thinks. Who exactly am I supposed to believe, regarding Jeter's thoughts?

Me of course

I am sure Jeter thinks his situation is analogous to Rose, but in reality is it not (for the reasons I mentioned above). Jeter represents the Yankees both on and off the field, he is their vocal leader. Rose isn't that guy, and that is ok, but I just wish Rose would seem a little more inviting.

Anyway, I hope Rose stays healthy and quickly regains his form. I can't wait to see him play.

I don't think Rose seeming inviting is an issue. We've heard that he was quite willing to talk to Pau and Melo once they expressed interest in the Bulls. He's not going to reach out on his own and initiate the conversation, but he has always said that he welcomes anybody on his team.

This whole recruiting controversy is just a big non-issue generated by the media IMO. There's never been anything to suggest that it had any impact on FAs' decisions.

[Magilla_Gorilla]

What's cool is that the blue laces represent the Blue Line that one would take to get to the United Center.

Thats awesome. As a former 'blue-liner' it makes me want them even more.

[AKfanatic]

Great article by Sam Smith

http://blogs.bulls.com/2014/07/derrick- ... all-court/

Some of the Rose defense in that article was humorous. I don't blame him for being injured, but to omit the name Reggie Rose it laughable. Pretending "anonymous sources" are some fictional, mythical beast that holds no real weight on the truth of the situation is also laughable. Guys like Bucher, using "anonymous sources" (*cough*Reggie Rose) called it before it happened. Also much of the hate the "community" gave Rose was brought on by himself. Releases if how great he felt, chain moving for comebacks, that was his doing and the laughable management team around him.

I hope Rose has grown and learned, I hope him health and success...however, much of the doubt in his sincerety and the sincerety of those advising him was brought on by themselves.

If it makes you feel any better Derrick has only had about 2 to 5 interviews this year and there hasn't been much talk from Reggie so it seems like Rose is handling his business just fine.

That's definitely a good thing. I'm hopeful that Rose has learned from past mistakes, whether his or his teams. So far he's been saying the right things and handling himself in a much better way. The past "return" seemed handled by others far to much.

[DaeDae]

Nah I don't buy it. Basketball culture is different than baseball culture. Recruiting stars has been the norm in the NBA for awhile, because with only 5 players on the court at once and 12 on a roster, one star added to a team impacts the overall team significantly more than a baseball team.

Oh ok you don't buy it. Guess it's all BS then.

We can move on now guys. Derrick's a bad leader and doesn't want to win or respect his teammates.

i didnt say that. I just said using a baseball player's example doesn't make sense to me. Derrick is a fine leader, I just don't agree with the whole 'not offending teammates' reasoning behind not recruiting. I doubt Mike Dunleavy lost respect for Jo because he pulled out all the stops to recruit Melo. At the end of the day, Derrick can do whatever he wants. I have no doubts about his work ethic and his ability to lead by example. If he doesn't want to recruit that's fine by me, but I don't agree with that reasoning, and believe it goes against his personal mantra of "I just want to weeen"

Look at the star players who have won the most titles in the modern NBA. As mentioned in the article, Jordan was notorious for recruiting players to make the team better. Pippen publicly ripped his teammate Barkley and engineered a trade to Portland for a better chance of winning a title. Kobe is in the same vein as Jordan, maybe even worse. Magic Johnson, again mentioned in the article, forced the Lakers to run any Lakers moves through him, hurting his public reputation in the process.

^^^ None of what you just described is "recruiting".

[mj234eva]

Great article by Sam Smith

http://blogs.bulls.com/2014/07/derrick- ... all-court/

So, again, amid pockets of community frustration blame oddly went toward Rose. Not tough. didn’t want to play, prima donna. Lots of silly, mean spirited stuff. Like he wanted to be injured. Yet, here was a player who actually played through seven different injuries in the 2011-12 season.

What have you done for me lately...

[RedBulls23]

ANYWAYS.....I can't wait to see how Rose plays.

[HINrichPolice]

What's cool is that the blue laces represent the Blue Line that one would take to get to the United Center.

Thats awesome. As a former 'blue-liner' it makes me want them even more.

It's something that started with the Rose 2.0 shoe.

Note "The L" here as well as the print on the insole.

[Ice the knees]

Great article by Sam Smith

http://blogs.bulls.com/2014/07/derrick- ... all-court/

So, again, amid pockets of community frustration blame oddly went toward Rose. Not tough. didn’t want to play, prima donna. Lots of silly, mean spirited stuff. Like he wanted to be injured. Yet, here was a player who actually played through seven different injuries in the 2011-12 season.

What have you done for me lately...

Lol remember when he played with stomach ulcers? The dude is tough

[bennjuiced34]

Good God. So much for him trimming down a bit.

[bledredwine]

What's cool is that the blue laces represent the Blue Line that one would take to get to the United Center.

Thats awesome. As a former 'blue-liner' it makes me want them even more.

It's something that started with the Rose 2.0 shoe.

Note "The L" here as well as the print on the insole.

My lord those shoes are incredible

[aboogie]

Do you guys know if the practice gonna be on tv ? If so what time

[mj234eva]