Sixers, Cavs, Wolves.

Bigmagicfan82 · Post #1 » by **Bigmagicfan82** » Mon Jul 28, 2014 8:02 pm

Edit: Deal is offcial -- Thad for Shved, LMAM, Mi 2015 1st (top 10 protected) and ~2m in cap space. Poll added. -- Hfw

MCoster · Post #2 » by **MCoster** » Mon Jul 28, 2014 8:07 pm

It's ZacH LAvine.

Id be pretty happy with just Lavine for Thad. But we'd have to take back someone like J.J. Barea too.

Waiters I think is unrealistic since Wiggins would have to go to Minnesota and then that would leave Cleveland without any SG's.

The Memphis 1st would be great too. Miami 1st wouldn't be bad either.

MRxBLACK · Post #3 » by **MRxBLACK** » Mon Jul 28, 2014 8:08 pm

Getting Young to replace Love is like getting Deng to replace James.

EricYellowSnow · Post #4 » by **EricYellowSnow** » Mon Jul 28, 2014 8:12 pm

What if we threw in Wroten and Thad to get Waiters and Bennett.
Wolves get Thad, Wiggins
Cavs get Love

Nitroglycerin · Post #5 » by **Nitroglycerin** » Mon Jul 28, 2014 8:13 pm

Zach and the other young guns are untouchable.
We're semi-rebuilding so it doesnt make sense to trade a top prospect
it will probably be a salary dump with the Sixers getting a 1st

Bigmagicfan82 · Post #6 » by **Bigmagicfan82** » Mon Jul 28, 2014 8:15 pm

MRxBLACK wrote:Getting Young to replace Love is like getting Deng to replace James.

I agree it is stupid for the Wolves to do but great opportunity for the Sixers

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EricYellowSnow · Post #7 » by **EricYellowSnow** » Mon Jul 28, 2014 8:16 pm

MCoster wrote:It's ZacH LAvine.

Id be pretty happy with just Lavine for Thad. But we'd have to take back someone like J.J. Barea too.

Waiters I think is unrealistic since Wiggins would have to go to Minnesota and then that would leave Cleveland without any SG's.

The Memphis 1st would be great too. Miami 1st wouldn't be bad either.

The Cavs will probably sign Ray Allen and maybe we can package Wroten or a SG for them

Nitroglycerin · Post #8 » by **Nitroglycerin** » Mon Jul 28, 2014 8:16 pm

EricYellowSnow wrote:What if we threw in Wroten and Thad to get Waiters and Bennett.
Wolves get Thad, Wiggins
Cavs get Love

i think Cavs wont make Waiters a throw in
Wiggins + Bennett for Love works.
Wolves take less salary while Cavs give out one less assett. I think if Wolves and Sixers will talk,it will be on a separate deal

Mr Sixer · Post #9 » by **Mr Sixer** » Mon Jul 28, 2014 8:24 pm

I think it's pretty certain if Cavs deal Wiggins they keep Waiters, unless they plan on taking on Martin as well, which I find unlikely particularly when they know we could easily take him on and they could keep Waiters.

Some guy in that original ESPN article posted this trade as an idea in the comments. seems pretty psychotic and unrealistic but an interesting take nonetheless.

76ERS GET
Dion Waiters
Brendon Haywood
Malcolm Thomas
J.J. Barea
John Lucas
Draft rights to lkan Karaman, Milan Mačvan, Alexander Kaun, Ejike Ugboaja and Edin Bavčić

TIMBERWOLVES GET
Thaddeus Young
Tristian Thompson
Anthony Bennett
Joe Harris
Dwight Powell
Matthew Dellavedova
3, 2015 1st round picks, 3 from Cleveland

CAVALIERS GET
Kevin Love
Kevin Martin ( Restructured Contract to spread money over 4 years not 3 )
4, 2015 2nd round picks, 3 from Philadelphia and 1 from Minnesota
3, 2016 2nd round picks, 2 from Philadelphia and 1 from Minnesota
Draft rights to Vasilije Micić, Arsalan Kazemi, Furkan Aldemir, Bojan Dubljević

Post #10 » by **CoreyGallagher** » Mon Jul 28, 2014 8:24 pm

Nitroglycerin wrote:Zach and the other young guns are untouchable.
We're semi-rebuilding so it doesnt make sense to trade a top prospect
it will probably be a salary dump with the Sixers getting a 1st

You can't trade your own first rounder. Zach I believe is untouchable, at least in this trade, I doubt the others are however.

BNelley24 · Post #11 » by **BNelley24** » Mon Jul 28, 2014 8:27 pm

Would you trade a 2016 1st rounder for Lavine?

Negrodamus · Post #12 » by **Negrodamus** » Mon Jul 28, 2014 8:27 pm

Mr Sixer wrote:I think it's pretty certain if Cavs deal Wiggins they keep Waiters, unless they plan on taking on Martin as well, which I find unlikely particularly when they know we could easily take him on and they could take Waiters.

Some guy in that original ESPN article posted this trade as an idea in the comments. seems pretty psychotic and unrealistic but an interesting take nonetheless.

76ERS GET
Dion Waiters
Brendon Haywood
Malcolm Thomas
J.J. Barea
John Lucas
Draft rights to lkan Karaman, Milan Mačvan, Alexander Kaun, Ejike Ugboaja and Edin Bavčić

TIMBERWOLVES GET
Thaddeus Young
Tristian Thompson
Anthony Bennett
Joe Harris
Dwight Powell
Matthew Dellavedova
3, 2015 1st round picks, 3 from Cleveland

CAVALIERS GET
Kevin Love
Kevin Martin ( Restructured Contract to spread money over 4 years not 3 )
4, 2015 2nd round picks, 3 from Philadelphia and 1 from Minnesota
3, 2016 2nd round picks, 2 from Philadelphia and 1 from Minnesota
Draft rights to Vasilije Micić, Arsalan Kazemi, Furkan Aldemir, Bojan Dubljević

I would absolutely love to be a fly on the wall for that trade negotiation if it came to fruition. Talk about strangely wanting obscure, yet specific, trade pieces.

MRxBLACK · Post #13 » by **MRxBLACK** » Mon Jul 28, 2014 8:30 pm

BNelley24 wrote:Would you trade a 2016 1st rounder for Lavine?

Nope.

Post #14 » by **CoreyGallagher** » Mon Jul 28, 2014 8:31 pm

BNelley24 wrote:Would you trade a 2016 1st rounder for Lavine?

That's a tough question lol.

OleSchool · Post #15 » by **OleSchool** » Mon Jul 28, 2014 8:34 pm

Mr Sixer wrote:I think it's pretty certain if Cavs deal Wiggins they keep Waiters, unless they plan on taking on Martin as well, which I find unlikely particularly when they know we could easily take him on and they could take Waiters.

Some guy in that original ESPN article posted this trade as an idea in the comments. seems pretty psychotic and unrealistic but an interesting take nonetheless.

76ERS GET
Dion Waiters
Brendon Haywood
Malcolm Thomas
J.J. Barea
John Lucas
Draft rights to lkan Karaman, Milan Mačvan, Alexander Kaun, Ejike Ugboaja and Edin Bavčić

TIMBERWOLVES GET
Thaddeus Young
Tristian Thompson
Anthony Bennett
Joe Harris
Dwight Powell
Matthew Dellavedova
3, 2015 1st round picks, 3 from Cleveland

CAVALIERS GET
Kevin Love
Kevin Martin ( Restructured Contract to spread money over 4 years not 3 )
4, 2015 2nd round picks, 3 from Philadelphia and 1 from Minnesota
3, 2016 2nd round picks, 2 from Philadelphia and 1 from Minnesota
Draft rights to Vasilije Micić, Arsalan Kazemi, Furkan Aldemir, Bojan Dubljević

Thats way too complicated. We don't even have 3 2nd round picks this year, only 2, and if we don't make the playoffs 1 of them go to Boston

OleSchool · Post #16 » by **OleSchool** » Mon Jul 28, 2014 8:34 pm

BNelley24 wrote:Would you trade a 2016 1st rounder for Lavine?

Probably not, unless its lottery protected

MRxBLACK · Post #17 » by **MRxBLACK** » Mon Jul 28, 2014 8:41 pm

OleSchool wrote:We don't even have 3 2nd round picks this year, only 2, and if we don't make the playoffs 1 of them go to Boston

We actually do have 3 coming from other teams in 2015, but only 1 in 2016.: http://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/ ... s/detailed

LongLiveHinkie · Post #18 » by **LongLiveHinkie** » Mon Jul 28, 2014 8:42 pm

My 3-way

T-Wolves trade: Love, whatever, whatever
Get: Whatever, whatever

Cavaliers trade: Wiggins, whatever, whatever, some pick
Get: whatever

Sixers trade: Thad
Get: WIGGINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OleSchool · Post #19 » by **OleSchool** » Mon Jul 28, 2014 8:46 pm

MRxBLACK wrote:
OleSchool wrote:We don't even have 3 2nd round picks this year, only 2, and if we don't make the playoffs 1 of them go to Boston

We actually do have 3 coming from other teams in 2015, but only 1 in 2016.: http://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/ ... s/detailed

My mistake then.

Either way thats way too complicated with the Euro prospects. Especially, when Cleve and Minn can just do the deal without us.

Post #20 » by **BullyKing** » Mon Jul 28, 2014 8:46 pm

OleSchool wrote:
Mr Sixer wrote:I think it's pretty certain if Cavs deal Wiggins they keep Waiters, unless they plan on taking on Martin as well, which I find unlikely particularly when they know we could easily take him on and they could take Waiters.

Some guy in that original ESPN article posted this trade as an idea in the comments. seems pretty psychotic and unrealistic but an interesting take nonetheless.

76ERS GET
Dion Waiters
Brendon Haywood
Malcolm Thomas
J.J. Barea
John Lucas
Draft rights to lkan Karaman, Milan Mačvan, Alexander Kaun, Ejike Ugboaja and Edin Bavčić

TIMBERWOLVES GET
Thaddeus Young
Tristian Thompson
Anthony Bennett
Joe Harris
Dwight Powell
Matthew Dellavedova
3, 2015 1st round picks, 3 from Cleveland

CAVALIERS GET
Kevin Love
Kevin Martin ( Restructured Contract to spread money over 4 years not 3 )
4, 2015 2nd round picks, 3 from Philadelphia and 1 from Minnesota
3, 2016 2nd round picks, 2 from Philadelphia and 1 from Minnesota
Draft rights to Vasilije Micić, Arsalan Kazemi, Furkan Aldemir, Bojan Dubljević

Thats way too complicated. We don't even have 3 2nd round picks this year, only 2, and if we don't make the playoffs 1 of them go to Boston

That is a terrible trade for the Wolves and the Cavs make out like bandits to me. Doesn't really matter since there is a zero percent chance this trade happens.

Final trade thoughts