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Final trade thoughts

Great deal
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Good deal
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Good deal, but I wanted more
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So so deal
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Bad deal
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Re: Sixers, Cavs, Wolves. 

Post#81 » by 42uptop » Tue Jul 29, 2014 3:52 am

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freshie2 wrote:Why would the Sixers want Shabazz??


Because he is talented and on a rookie contract. He would immediately get playing time here


Well, he is on a rookie contract, talented? Hardly, dude sucks worse than Evan Turner by far. Really, he's not god, at all.


He had a higher PER than Turner did last year, and Shabazz was a rookie. We have to get somebody back in this trade and I'd much rather have Shabazz than Anthony Bennett.

It's a simple trade: Thad for Shabazz, Barea, Denver's 2nd round pick. That is a good deal
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Post#82 » by 76ciology » Tue Jul 29, 2014 4:18 am

Benfitnyc wrote:If it's accurate that we can trade the lottery portion of our pick next year...

Wolves get:
Bennett, Thad, Sixers 2015 1st rd pick (lottery UNPROTECTED), Memphis 1st rd pick (owed to Cleveland), Moultrie, 2015 Orlando 2nd rd pick (owed to Philly).

Wolves trade:
Love & Martin

Cavs get:
Love

Cavs trade:
Bennett, Wiggins, Memphis 1st round pick

Sixers get:
Wiggins, Martin

Sixers trade:
Thad, 2015 1st round pick, Orlando 2015 2nd round pick, Moultrie.

*In the event Sixers make the playoffs (haha), Boston gets our pick and Minnesota would get our 2016 unprotected.
If they don't make playoffs, Wolves get our 1st rd pick and Boston gets two 2015 2nd rounders... We're owed 3 so we're covered in this trade (with us also adding Orlando 2nd rd to minny).


I'd rather trade MCW than trading our pick next year.
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Post#83 » by 76ciology » Tue Jul 29, 2014 4:19 am

42uptop wrote:
Skates wrote:
42uptop wrote:
Because he is talented and on a rookie contract. He would immediately get playing time here


Well, he is on a rookie contract, talented? Hardly, dude sucks worse than Evan Turner by far. Really, he's not god, at all.


He had a higher PER than Turner did last year, and Shabazz was a rookie. We have to get somebody back in this trade and I'd much rather have Shabazz than Anthony Bennett.

It's a simple trade: Thad for Shabazz, Barea, Denver's 2nd round pick. That is a good deal


I'd rather have Benett than Shabazz. Shabazz doesn't have an upside, he was just way overrated in HS.
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Post#84 » by Negrodamus » Tue Jul 29, 2014 4:29 am

42uptop wrote:
Skates wrote:
42uptop wrote:
Because he is talented and on a rookie contract. He would immediately get playing time here


Well, he is on a rookie contract, talented? Hardly, dude sucks worse than Evan Turner by far. Really, he's not god, at all.


He had a higher PER than Turner did last year, and Shabazz was a rookie. We have to get somebody back in this trade and I'd much rather have Shabazz than Anthony Bennett.

It's a simple trade: Thad for Shabazz, Barea, Denver's 2nd round pick. That is a good deal


Yuck, I'd rather take a chance on Bennett than take Shabazz. He's like a sociopath with how quick trigger he is when the balls in his hands. He's not good enough to have a green light.
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Re: Sixers, Cavs, Wolves. 

Post#85 » by Benfitnyc » Tue Jul 29, 2014 4:29 am

76ciology wrote:
Benfitnyc wrote:If it's accurate that we can trade the lottery portion of our pick next year...

Wolves get:
Bennett, Thad, Sixers 2015 1st rd pick (lottery UNPROTECTED), Memphis 1st rd pick (owed to Cleveland), Moultrie, 2015 Orlando 2nd rd pick (owed to Philly).

Wolves trade:
Love & Martin

Cavs get:
Love

Cavs trade:
Bennett, Wiggins, Memphis 1st round pick

Sixers get:
Wiggins, Martin

Sixers trade:
Thad, 2015 1st round pick, Orlando 2015 2nd round pick, Moultrie.

*In the event Sixers make the playoffs (haha), Boston gets our pick and Minnesota would get our 2016 unprotected.
If they don't make playoffs, Wolves get our 1st rd pick and Boston gets two 2015 2nd rounders... We're owed 3 so we're covered in this trade (with us also adding Orlando 2nd rd to minny).


I'd rather trade MCW than trading our pick next year.


Hmm I think id keep MCW over next years pick. MCW "gets it" and next years draft class isn't as talented.
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Post#86 » by 76ciology » Tue Jul 29, 2014 4:35 am

Benfitnyc wrote:
76ciology wrote:
Benfitnyc wrote:If it's accurate that we can trade the lottery portion of our pick next year...

Wolves get:
Bennett, Thad, Sixers 2015 1st rd pick (lottery UNPROTECTED), Memphis 1st rd pick (owed to Cleveland), Moultrie, 2015 Orlando 2nd rd pick (owed to Philly).

Wolves trade:
Love & Martin

Cavs get:
Love

Cavs trade:
Bennett, Wiggins, Memphis 1st round pick

Sixers get:
Wiggins, Martin

Sixers trade:
Thad, 2015 1st round pick, Orlando 2015 2nd round pick, Moultrie.

*In the event Sixers make the playoffs (haha), Boston gets our pick and Minnesota would get our 2016 unprotected.
If they don't make playoffs, Wolves get our 1st rd pick and Boston gets two 2015 2nd rounders... We're owed 3 so we're covered in this trade (with us also adding Orlando 2nd rd to minny).


I'd rather trade MCW than trading our pick next year.


Hmm I think id keep MCW over next years pick. MCW "gets it" and next years draft class isn't as talented.


Not saying they would be a great fit but have you seen Jahlil and Towns? I might even prefer Mudiay over MCW.
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Post#87 » by 76ciology » Tue Jul 29, 2014 4:36 am

Negrodamus wrote:
42uptop wrote:
Skates wrote:
Well, he is on a rookie contract, talented? Hardly, dude sucks worse than Evan Turner by far. Really, he's not god, at all.


He had a higher PER than Turner did last year, and Shabazz was a rookie. We have to get somebody back in this trade and I'd much rather have Shabazz than Anthony Bennett.

It's a simple trade: Thad for Shabazz, Barea, Denver's 2nd round pick. That is a good deal


Yuck, I'd rather take a chance on Bennett than take Shabazz. He's like a sociopath with how quick trigger he is when the balls in his hands. He's not good enough to have a green light.


Yup, and lets not forget that Hinkie had Benett on his list along with Dipo and Noel in the 2013 draft.
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Re: Sixers, Cavs, Wolves. 

Post#88 » by KKell2507 » Tue Jul 29, 2014 4:39 am

76ciology wrote:
Benfitnyc wrote:If it's accurate that we can trade the lottery portion of our pick next year...

Wolves get:
Bennett, Thad, Sixers 2015 1st rd pick (lottery UNPROTECTED), Memphis 1st rd pick (owed to Cleveland), Moultrie, 2015 Orlando 2nd rd pick (owed to Philly).

Wolves trade:
Love & Martin

Cavs get:
Love

Cavs trade:
Bennett, Wiggins, Memphis 1st round pick

Sixers get:
Wiggins, Martin

Sixers trade:
Thad, 2015 1st round pick, Orlando 2015 2nd round pick, Moultrie.

*In the event Sixers make the playoffs (haha), Boston gets our pick and Minnesota would get our 2016 unprotected.
If they don't make playoffs, Wolves get our 1st rd pick and Boston gets two 2015 2nd rounders... We're owed 3 so we're covered in this trade (with us also adding Orlando 2nd rd to minny).


I'd rather trade MCW than trading our pick next year.


But why would Minnesota rather have MCW than Wiggins? Especially when they already have Rubio. It would definitely take our First next year to get it done.
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Post#89 » by MRxBLACK » Tue Jul 29, 2014 4:39 am

Benfitnyc wrote:Hmm I think id keep MCW over next years pick. MCW "gets it" and next years draft class isn't as talented.

I don't think any deal gets done without Wiggins going to Minny.
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Post#90 » by 76ciology » Tue Jul 29, 2014 4:42 am

KKell2507 wrote:
76ciology wrote:
Benfitnyc wrote:If it's accurate that we can trade the lottery portion of our pick next year...

Wolves get:
Bennett, Thad, Sixers 2015 1st rd pick (lottery UNPROTECTED), Memphis 1st rd pick (owed to Cleveland), Moultrie, 2015 Orlando 2nd rd pick (owed to Philly).

Wolves trade:
Love & Martin

Cavs get:
Love

Cavs trade:
Bennett, Wiggins, Memphis 1st round pick

Sixers get:
Wiggins, Martin

Sixers trade:
Thad, 2015 1st round pick, Orlando 2015 2nd round pick, Moultrie.

*In the event Sixers make the playoffs (haha), Boston gets our pick and Minnesota would get our 2016 unprotected.
If they don't make playoffs, Wolves get our 1st rd pick and Boston gets two 2015 2nd rounders... We're owed 3 so we're covered in this trade (with us also adding Orlando 2nd rd to minny).


I'd rather trade MCW than trading our pick next year.


But why would Minnesota rather have MCW than Wiggins? Especially when they already have Rubio. It would definitely take our First next year to get it done.


I get your point. But the Wolves seems to have this boneheaded play off mentality that might lead them to favor MCW over the pick. FWIW, MCW is an improving shooter and has the potential to be a good shooter. He could play a 2 PG line-up with Rubio.

Or maybe we can find a fourth team and trade MCW for assets that the Wolves might be interested with.
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Post#91 » by Benfitnyc » Tue Jul 29, 2014 4:55 am

76ciology wrote:
KKell2507 wrote:
76ciology wrote:
I'd rather trade MCW than trading our pick next year.


But why would Minnesota rather have MCW than Wiggins? Especially when they already have Rubio. It would definitely take our First next year to get it done.


I get your point. But the Wolves seems to have this boneheaded play off mentality that might lead them to favor MCW over the pick. FWIW, MCW is an improving shooter and has the potential to be a good shooter. He could play a 2 PG line-up with Rubio.

Or maybe we can find a fourth team and trade MCW for assets that the Wolves might be interested with.


I'm not sure if I'm in the minority here but i like MCW and wanna keep him (compared to 2015 lotto pick). The dude gets it at the next level.
I'm over getting/keeping more picks (like the 2015 draft) especially when we have something of a known constant in MCW.
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Post#92 » by KKell2507 » Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:09 am

Benfitnyc wrote:
76ciology wrote:
KKell2507 wrote:
But why would Minnesota rather have MCW than Wiggins? Especially when they already have Rubio. It would definitely take our First next year to get it done.


I get your point. But the Wolves seems to have this boneheaded play off mentality that might lead them to favor MCW over the pick. FWIW, MCW is an improving shooter and has the potential to be a good shooter. He could play a 2 PG line-up with Rubio.

Or maybe we can find a fourth team and trade MCW for assets that the Wolves might be interested with.


I'm not sure if I'm in the minority here but i like MCW and wanna keep him (compared to 2015 lotto pick). The dude gets it at the next level.
I'm over getting/keeping more picks (like the 2015 draft) especially when we have something of a known constant in MCW.


I'm with you. I don't see Minnesota taking MCW over Wiggins. Even as dumb as they seem to be at times. And I'll trade the 2015 lottery pick for Wiggins 100 times out of 100 in our current situation.

The prizes of the 2015 draft are big men. We already have our prized big men. Get Wiggins. Skip out on the 2015 draft, but have all of our picks after that.

MCW,Wiggins, Noel, Embiid, and Saric have the makings of a dynasty.

If only it were as simple as it seems...
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Post#93 » by 76ciology » Tue Jul 29, 2014 7:59 am

Again, I don't see the Wolves going after MCW. But I'd rather trade MCW than trading our 2015 draft pick.
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Post#94 » by Saltine » Tue Jul 29, 2014 10:02 am

42uptop wrote:It's a simple trade: Thad for Shabazz, Barea, Denver's 2nd round pick. That is a good deal


We would do that :)
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Post#95 » by Saltine » Tue Jul 29, 2014 10:05 am

KKell2507 wrote:
Benfitnyc wrote:
76ciology wrote:
I get your point. But the Wolves seems to have this boneheaded play off mentality that might lead them to favor MCW over the pick. FWIW, MCW is an improving shooter and has the potential to be a good shooter. He could play a 2 PG line-up with Rubio.

Or maybe we can find a fourth team and trade MCW for assets that the Wolves might be interested with.


I'm not sure if I'm in the minority here but i like MCW and wanna keep him (compared to 2015 lotto pick). The dude gets it at the next level.
I'm over getting/keeping more picks (like the 2015 draft) especially when we have something of a known constant in MCW.


I'm with you. I don't see Minnesota taking MCW over Wiggins. Even as dumb as they seem to be at times. And I'll trade the 2015 lottery pick for Wiggins 100 times out of 100 in our current situation.

The prizes of the 2015 draft are big men. We already have our prized big men. Get Wiggins. Skip out on the 2015 draft, but have all of our picks after that.

MCW,Wiggins, Noel, Embiid, and Saric have the makings of a dynasty.

If only it were as simple as it seems...



We have a new GM... MCW has no purpose on our team, we just drafted Lavine at SG. Rubio is our PG. There isn't the slightest chance in hell of Flip getting Wiggins for Love then sending him somewhere else.

Bennett sure, not Wiggins.

He'd just do the Chicago deal for Taj, McBuckets, and Mirotic instead. The only guy Cleveland has that Flip wants is Wiggins. Put down the pipes ;)
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Post#96 » by 42uptop » Tue Jul 29, 2014 10:27 am

76ciology wrote:
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Well, he is on a rookie contract, talented? Hardly, dude sucks worse than Evan Turner by far. Really, he's not god, at all.


He had a higher PER than Turner did last year, and Shabazz was a rookie. We have to get somebody back in this trade and I'd much rather have Shabazz than Anthony Bennett.

It's a simple trade: Thad for Shabazz, Barea, Denver's 2nd round pick. That is a good deal


I'd rather have Benett than Shabazz. Shabazz doesn't have an upside, he was just way overrated in HS.


He definitely was overrated in high school but that has nothing to do with how good he is now. Bennett on the other hand strikes me as a useless basketball player. His skillset is way below average, and his conditioning and health problems aren't reassuring
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Post#97 » by LloydFree » Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:03 am

Waiters > Bennett >>> Shabazz
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Post#98 » by DayofMourning » Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:11 am

Benfitnyc wrote:
76ciology wrote:
Benfitnyc wrote:If it's accurate that we can trade the lottery portion of our pick next year...

Wolves get:
Bennett, Thad, Sixers 2015 1st rd pick (lottery UNPROTECTED), Memphis 1st rd pick (owed to Cleveland), Moultrie, 2015 Orlando 2nd rd pick (owed to Philly).

Wolves trade:
Love & Martin

Cavs get:
Love

Cavs trade:
Bennett, Wiggins, Memphis 1st round pick

Sixers get:
Wiggins, Martin

Sixers trade:
Thad, 2015 1st round pick, Orlando 2015 2nd round pick, Moultrie.

*In the event Sixers make the playoffs (haha), Boston gets our pick and Minnesota would get our 2016 unprotected.
If they don't make playoffs, Wolves get our 1st rd pick and Boston gets two 2015 2nd rounders... We're owed 3 so we're covered in this trade (with us also adding Orlando 2nd rd to minny).


I'd rather trade MCW than trading our pick next year.


Hmm I think id keep MCW over next years pick. MCW "gets it" and next years draft class isn't as talented.


I see that statement being tossed around a lot. What do people have against the class of 2015? It has a lot of good talent, notably big men. Okafor, Turner, Towns, etc. All big men rated better than any in last year's draft, except for Embiid (who didn't exist at this same time last year...). Mudiay is also a definite choice over any of last year's point prospects. I'd also take Hezonja over a guy like Wiggins because of his shot, personality, and position potential (could play the 1, 2 or 3). Its a darn good draft actually, though maybe not as deep, but that could all change with one above average college season by the class.
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Post#99 » by DayofMourning » Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:14 am

LloydFree wrote:Waiters > Bennett >>> Shabazz


I'd actually give Bennett a look see before Waiters. I see Waiters topping out as an un-athletic Ben Gordon. I also despise the attitude concerns he's been labeled as having. The one thing that can kill chemistry and delay development is bad attitudes.
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Post#100 » by Xepa777 » Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:24 am

Anyone who even THINKS about us getting Wiggins in any Love deal needs to put down the pipe. Now.

This is like Cavs fans saying that we need to give #3, #10, and Noel to get the #1 pick. Both equally stupid comments and both make fanbases look equally stupid. So stop. Just stop.

And the Wolves probably value LaVine almost as much than we value Noel. So stop. Again, please.
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