Sixers, Cavs, Wolves.

[vdalfmd]

Hell no, am I the only one who dislikes Waiters, Bennett AND Lavine? I'd prefer to trade Thad for a couple of 2nd rounders, he doesn't deserve to play in a 20W team and his trade value, being an expiring, isn't higher imho. Assuming our core is MCW-Noel-Embiid, I think Hinkie can find more serviceable players for our roster and rotations in the 2nd round than Lavine (a street basketball player), Bennett (a scoring big with low BBIQ, and his scoring didn't even translate) or Waiters (inefficient ball-dominant chucker)... In the system we are trying to build, the Hollis Thompson-type of players are more useful than the Dion Waiters-ones... An example, just replace Danny Green with DeRozan or Bucks-era Monta Ellis in the San Antonio's lineup: I don't want to see that kind of game.

[Agnostifarian]

Anyone who even THINKS about us getting Wiggins in any Love deal needs to put down the pipe. Now.

This is like Cavs fans saying that we need to give #3, #10, and Noel to get the #1 pick. Both equally stupid comments and both make fanbases look equally stupid. So stop. Just stop.

And the Wolves probably value LaVine almost as much than we value Noel. So stop. Again, please.

What are you talking about? We're trading Thad for Kevin Love! Saunders looked into Hinkie's eyes. Love's on the way... And that's not all.

We're going to trade Love to CLE for Wiggins, Waiters and Bennett.

MCW
Waiters
Wiggins
Noel
Embiid

Bennett's going to pass out towels and gatorade and dress up as our new Ben Franklin Mascot at the half. Party in Philly!!!

[plead.5th]

Unathletic? Really? Maybe you've never seen him play basketball before

Waiters > Bennett >>> Shabazz

I'd actually give Bennett a look see before Waiters. I see Waiters topping out as an un-athletic Ben Gordon. I also despise the attitude concerns he's been labeled as having. The one thing that can kill chemistry and delay development is bad attitudes.

[Fener1907]

If Minny wants Young to replace Love, why not just deal directly with Philly? Thad, Embiid and picks I would imagine would get their attention. Even if Love doesn't agree to an extension with us we can move him to Cleveland ourselves for Wiggins, Bennet and picks. That of course would leave us depleted in the front court. I don't have positive hopes for Embiid, but if he stays hopefully Im wrong.

[phillthy13]

Thad's value is not as high as everyone is talking of here. No way is a package, with Thad being the centerpiece, going to get us wiggins. That talk needs to stop. The moment Hinkie says we'll do it for Wiggins is the same moment the phone gets hung up and they call another team.

At this point, I'm happy with anything more than a salary dump and a couple 2nd rounders in exchange for Thad. I love Thad, but he clearly won't resign next year and I don't want us to have round 2 of the ET situation at the trade deadline.

[DayofMourning]

Unathletic? Really? Maybe you've never seen him play basketball before

Waiters > Bennett >>> Shabazz

I'd actually give Bennett a look see before Waiters. I see Waiters topping out as an un-athletic Ben Gordon. I also despise the attitude concerns he's been labeled as having. The one thing that can kill chemistry and delay development is bad attitudes.

Or maybe I have? It has been detailed time and again that Waiters is poor finishing at the rim. There is a reason for that. He can't explode to the rim as is necessary. I'm surprised you'd debate that. Its well known that he's not a vertical threat. ??

[BoomBap]

If Minny wants Young to replace Love, why not just deal directly with Philly? Thad, Embiid and picks I would imagine would get their attention. Even if Love doesn't agree to an extension with us we can move him to Cleveland ourselves for Wiggins, Bennet and picks. That of course would leave us depleted in the front court. I don't have positive hopes for Embiid, but if he stays hopefully Im wrong.

Oh my god...my heart....

[Mr Sixer]

I think it's pretty certain if Cavs deal Wiggins they keep Waiters, unless they plan on taking on Martin as well, which I find unlikely particularly when they know we could easily take him on and they could keep Waiters.

Some guy in that original ESPN article posted this trade as an idea in the comments. seems pretty psychotic and unrealistic but an interesting take nonetheless.

76ERS GET
Dion Waiters
Brendon Haywood
Malcolm Thomas
J.J. Barea
John Lucas
Draft rights to lkan Karaman, Milan Mačvan, Alexander Kaun, Ejike Ugboaja and Edin Bavčić

TIMBERWOLVES GET
Thaddeus Young
Tristian Thompson
Anthony Bennett
Joe Harris
Dwight Powell
Matthew Dellavedova
3, 2015 1st round picks, 3 from Cleveland

CAVALIERS GET
Kevin Love
Kevin Martin ( Restructured Contract to spread money over 4 years not 3 )
4, 2015 2nd round picks, 3 from Philadelphia and 1 from Minnesota
3, 2016 2nd round picks, 2 from Philadelphia and 1 from Minnesota
Draft rights to Vasilije Micić, Arsalan Kazemi, Furkan Aldemir, Bojan Dubljević

Put down the Xbox controller and take a step back from the television.

I have a better idea. Pick up your reading glasses and read the bold.

[76ciology]

Anyone who even THINKS about us getting Wiggins in any Love deal needs to put down the pipe. Now.

This is like Cavs fans saying that we need to give #3, #10, and Noel to get the #1 pick. Both equally stupid comments and both make fanbases look equally stupid. So stop. Just stop.

And the Wolves probably value LaVine almost as much than we value Noel. So stop. Again, please.

Not saying the actual Wolves FO is OK for us to get Wiggins, but they are actually pretty weird right now having this "we can make the play-offs" mentality rather than rebuilding the team with their franchise player wanting out from their team.

Personally, I wouldn't go after Wiggins right now. I think he's pretty overrated as of now with some media still believing the hype that might pressure the Wolves or the Cavs to sell him with a hefty amount.

[steveb21]

I would think about a Thad Young for Kevin Martin & Glen Robinson III deal. I know Martin doesn't fit with our youth movement and we could always buy him out.

[LloydFree]

Waiters > Bennett >>> Shabazz

I'd actually give Bennett a look see before Waiters. I see Waiters topping out as an un-athletic Ben Gordon. I also despise the attitude concerns he's been labeled as having. The one thing that can kill chemistry and delay development is bad attitudes.

Bennett is better than he showed last year, but at the end of the day he's still nothing but another "tweener" forward that will be a tough fit in any good starting lineup. Waiters is a legitimate SG with talent, that if coached up a bit, can be a valuable piece at a position that is very shallow on talent in the league.

[42uptop]

Here's the problem with us facilitating the Love/Wiggins swap:

Bennett - Stuck between positions due to being 6'7. If he plays the 4 then he will be too undersized and lacking on both ends to have any substantial impact. No true skills

Waiters - High usage chucker, also undersized for his position. He wants the ball in his hands but his atrocious finishing around the rim and inconsistent shooting don't warrant it. Too selfish

1st round picks - You have LeBron, how high do you think you will be drafting?

Cleveland has nothing to offer. On the flip side, Minnesota actually has some talented, young players to throw into a deal for Thad. I'd rather deal exclusively with Flip Saunders than get Cleveland involved in an intricate trade for Love where we are taking back their garbage

EDIT: Even if Shabazz is unpopular, Minny has other assets with much more value than anything we could get from the Cavs

[sixers hoops]

Here's the problem with us facilitating the Love/Wiggins swap:

Bennett - Stuck between positions due to being 6'7. If he plays the 4 then he will be too undersized and lacking on both ends to have any substantial impact. No true skills

Waiters - High usage chucker, also undersized for his position. He wants the ball in his hands but his atrocious finishing around the rim and inconsistent shooting don't warrant it. Too selfish

1st round picks - You have LeBron, how high do you think you will be drafting?

Cleveland has nothing to offer. On the flip side, Minnesota actually has some talented, young players to throw into a deal for Thad. I'd rather deal exclusively with Flip Saunders than get Cleveland involved in an intricate trade for Love where we are taking back their garbage

Cleveland traded their 2015 first to clear cap space. I believe they own Miami and Memphis' firsts. Attractive assets depending on what we are taking back.

[76ciology]

Here's the problem with us facilitating the Love/Wiggins swap:

Bennett - Stuck between positions due to being 6'7. If he plays the 4 then he will be too undersized and lacking on both ends to have any substantial impact. No true skills

Benett:
Very good size (7'0ws and 8'11" SR), size can compliment Noel.
Out of shape but is very mobile and athletic relative to his condition and size
Very good offensive skillset
very Good feel for the game
Good touch around
good perimeter shooter
Can potentially fit our system being a versatile stretch four.
Very very good buy low candidate
Is reported to be on the list of guys Hinkie prefers with the Pels' pick.

Wiggins vs Benett
STL + BLK: Benett 2.7 vs Wiggins 2.6
PER: Benett 28 vs Wiggins (I believe it's below 20 around 17 or 18)

Heading to next season..

MCW (improving shooter)
Daniels (could shoot)
Hollis (good shooter)
Benett (could shoot)
Noel (improving shooter)

[LloydFree]

Here's the problem with us facilitating the Love/Wiggins swap:

Bennett - Stuck between positions due to being 6'7. If he plays the 4 then he will be too undersized and lacking on both ends to have any substantial impact. No true skills

Waiters - High usage chucker, also undersized for his position. He wants the ball in his hands but his atrocious finishing around the rim and inconsistent shooting don't warrant it. Too selfish

1st round picks - You have LeBron, how high do you think you will be drafting?

Cleveland has nothing to offer. On the flip side, Minnesota actually has some talented, young players to throw into a deal for Thad. I'd rather deal exclusively with Flip Saunders than get Cleveland involved in an intricate trade for Love where we are taking back their garbage

EDIT: Even if Shabazz is unpopular, Minny has other assets with much more value than anything we could get from the Cavs

Cleveland owns as many as three (3) 1st round draft picks in the 2015 draft and all are likely to be better than the one they traded away.
http://www.prosportstransactions.com/basketball/DraftTrades/Years/2015.htm

[HartfordWhalers]

To go on record: I am buying serious Anthony Bennett stock next year and if there's any way we could get him without giving up any of MCW/Noel/Embiid/Saric/2015 first I would do cartwheels.

I like him too. That said, I like the Mem 1st more, just don't see it happening.

Thad for Bennett, Barea and other expiring filler is a deal I make, and throw in a mid 2nd or 2.

[76ciology]

To go on record: I am buying serious Anthony Bennett stock next year and if there's any way we could get him without giving up any of MCW/Noel/Embiid/Saric/2015 first I would do cartwheels.

Me too.

count me in. Great buy low candidate. He's a low risk high reward player right now, if he gets traded for Thad.

[HartfordWhalers]

To go on record: I am buying serious Anthony Bennett stock next year and if there's any way we could get him without giving up any of MCW/Noel/Embiid/Saric/2015 first I would do cartwheels.

Me too.

count me in. Great buy low candidate. He's a low risk high reward player right now, if he gets traded for Thad.

Ha. You caught me in the 30 seconds prior to editing in a more thought out comment.

[76ciology]

Me too.

count me in. Great buy low candidate. He's a low risk high reward player right now, if he gets traded for Thad.

Ha. You caught me in the 30 seconds prior to editing in a more thought out comment.

I got fast hand and eye coordination like Nerlens.

[philly5]

I'm off getting picks. Give me Bennett/Waiters + salary dump for Thad.