If Cavs Trade Wiggins For Love, Who is the Starting 2 guard?

Rod700 · Post #1 » by **Rod700** » Tue Jul 29, 2014 2:01 pm

If Cavs Trade Wiggins For Love, who is the starting 2 guard? I think the best fit would be an athletic utility defender that can run the floor with Lebron. No need for him to have range with Love, Lebron, and Kyrie on the floor. Who is available? Marion is leaving Dallas and may look to hop on with a team for a title run. I know he is old but he can still play D, gets up and down the floor, and bring a little extra floor spacing and rebounding as well. Could probably get him for the vet min. Any thoughts? Who else is available?

OhioGuy216 · Post #2 » by **OhioGuy216** » Tue Jul 29, 2014 2:25 pm

Rod700 wrote:If Cavs Trade Wiggins For Love, who is the starting 2 guard? I think the best fit would be an athletic utility defender that can run the floor with Lebron. No need for him to have range with Love, Lebron, and Kyrie on the floor. Who is available? Marion is leaving Dallas and may look to hop on with a team for a title run. I know he is old but he can still play D, gets up and down the floor, and bring a little extra floor spacing and rebounding as well. Could probably get him for the vet min. Any thoughts? Who else is available?

Uh, so Dion Waiters then.

Rod700 · Post #3 » by **Rod700** » Tue Jul 29, 2014 4:09 pm

Do you think his D is good enough to be the primary perimeter defender?

guest81 · Post #4 » by **guest81** » Tue Jul 29, 2014 4:37 pm

Rod700 wrote:Do you think his D is good enough to be the primary perimeter defender?

If dion for whatever reason got traded too (I don't think he would) I would expect the Cavs to ask for Brewer from Minny. He would be a perfect fit in that lineup

Post #5 » by **B Mac** » Tue Jul 29, 2014 4:46 pm

Man I can't wait for people outside of Cleveland to see how good this kid is. Criminally underrated considering all this team has been through.

The answer is clearly Dion.

guest81 · Post #6 » by **guest81** » Tue Jul 29, 2014 4:58 pm

B Mac wrote:Man I can't wait for people outside of Cleveland to see how good this kid is. Criminally underrated considering all this team has been through.

The answer is clearly Dion.

Is his relationship with Irving overblown?

SwishMaster90 · Post #7 » by **SwishMaster90** » Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:03 pm

Rod700 wrote:If Cavs Trade Wiggins For Love, who is the starting 2 guard? I think the best fit would be an athletic utility defender that can run the floor with Lebron. No need for him to have range with Love, Lebron, and Kyrie on the floor. Who is available? Marion is leaving Dallas and may look to hop on with a team for a title run. I know he is old but he can still play D, gets up and down the floor, and bring a little extra floor spacing and rebounding as well. Could probably get him for the vet min. Any thoughts? Who else is available?

I've been thinking this all along! We need a 2 who can defend the floor well because too much offense is too much. Dion should not start if he stays we need him off the bench as a spark. We'll be fine in the starting lineup without him. But one things for sure... we would lack in d in the starting lineup with this crew. A good defender is what I see.

Rod700 · Post #8 » by **Rod700** » Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:11 pm

B Mac wrote:Man I can't wait for people outside of Cleveland to see how good this kid is. Criminally underrated considering all this team has been through.

The answer is clearly Dion.

So does that mean his defense is under-rated? Could he be the primary perimeter defender?

Rod700 · Post #9 » by **Rod700** » Tue Jul 29, 2014 7:26 pm

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/23 ... -With-Mavs

I think Marion could be had for the vet min. I say use him as a starting primary perimeter defender, and let Dion lead the 2nd unit.

gflem · Post #10 » by **gflem** » Tue Jul 29, 2014 10:40 pm

guest81 wrote:
B Mac wrote:Man I can't wait for people outside of Cleveland to see how good this kid is. Criminally underrated considering all this team has been through.

The answer is clearly Dion.

Is his relationship with Irving overblown?

Hard to say, but I know one thing, there wont be any "buddy ball" or freezing anybody out with Lebron here. The guy is all about winning and these young guys are going to get an education about playing together.

King Stannis · Post #11 » by **King Stannis** » Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:08 pm

Cavs starting line-up in 2013-2014 according to Dion Waiters:

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Benedict_Boozer · Post #12 » by **Benedict_Boozer** » Wed Jul 30, 2014 12:58 am

Marion is more of a SF/PF to me. He would be a nice addition but don't see him playing effectively on the wing.

Dion is a better defender than he gets credit for. If Wiggins goes he makes sense at SG. He can shoot with range and as the Spurs showed having guys who can shoot AND also put the ball on the floor is valuable.

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Dupp · Post #13 » by **Dupp** » Wed Jul 30, 2014 12:59 am

Rod700 wrote:
B Mac wrote:Man I can't wait for people outside of Cleveland to see how good this kid is. Criminally underrated considering all this team has been through.

The answer is clearly Dion.

So does that mean his defense is under-rated? Could he be the primary perimeter defender?

Primary / elite defender no. But he could be quite a good defender, he improved his defence a lot last season but still has a way to go

Dupp · Post #14 » by **Dupp** » Wed Jul 30, 2014 1:43 am

You can tell who the bandwagon cas fans are based solely on opinions of waiters.

Post #15 » by **jbk1234** » Wed Jul 30, 2014 3:26 am

B Mac wrote:Man I can't wait for people outside of Cleveland to see how good this kid is. Criminally underrated considering all this team has been through.

The answer is clearly Dion.

No Dion sucks he's just living off his past reputation.

Seriously this needs to stop. This is the Cavs' board. Just lock it.

Post #16 » by **jbk1234** » Wed Jul 30, 2014 3:28 am

Dupp wrote:You can tell who the bandwagon cas fans are based solely on opinions of waiters.

Who says they are Cavs fans? Most likely, they are trying to get Dion on the cheep. The actual Cavs fans were posting with us last year.

Rod700 · Post #17 » by **Rod700** » Wed Jul 30, 2014 9:18 pm

jbk1234 wrote:
Dupp wrote:You can tell who the bandwagon cas fans are based solely on opinions of waiters.

Who says they are Cavs fans? Most likely, they are trying to get Dion on the cheep. The actual Cavs fans were posting with us last year.

I'm just trying to get a feel for the* team. I've only asked questions except for maybe the notion that a veteran primary perimeter defender could be prudent to have while young talent develops. And for anyone who didn't bother to read the OP, I'm inquiring about perimeter defensive skills, not overall talent.

Rod700 · Post #18 » by **Rod700** » Wed Jul 30, 2014 9:20 pm

jbk1234 wrote:
Dupp wrote:You can tell who the bandwagon cas fans are based solely on opinions of waiters.

Who says they are Cavs fans? Most likely, they are trying to get Dion on the cheep. The actual Cavs fans were posting with us last year.

I don't understand the notion of getting Dion cheap. It's not like anything we say or do here affects the real world.

improvisor · Post #19 » by **improvisor** » Wed Jul 30, 2014 9:39 pm

Dion Waiters is going to start regardless if Wiggins is here or not. Wiggins is still raw offensively and I see him eventually get major minutes come all star time.

SwishMaster90 · Post #20 » by **SwishMaster90** » Wed Jul 30, 2014 9:50 pm

I still believe we need Waiters production off the bunch because of his numbers. His offense won't be needed if we get Love. We will seem deeper if he's a sixth man for sure. Besides the fact that he could lead that unit of older players.