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WT: Philly wants to keep the draft lotto the same. 

Post#1 » by j-ragg » Wed Jul 30, 2014 3:00 pm

The Philadelphia 76ers will fight changes to the draft lottery system that the NBA is pushing to implement in time for next season.

Though there are several facets and the proposals haven't been finalized, essentially the goal of commissioner Adam Silver is to balance out the lottery odds so the worst team or teams wouldn't have the highest chances of landing the top pick, sources said.

The 76ers are in a multiseason rebuilding project that is depending on a high pick next season.

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NBA looking to change Draft Lottery; 76ers say no 

Post#2 » by biggestbullsfan » Wed Jul 30, 2014 3:03 pm

The Philadelphia 76ers will fight changes to the draft lottery system that the NBA is pushing to implement in time for next season.

Though there are several facets and the proposals haven't been finalized, essentially the goal of commissioner Adam Silver is to balance out the lottery odds so the worst team or teams wouldn't have the highest chances of landing the top pick, sources said.

The 76ers are in a multiseason rebuilding project that is depending on a high pick next season.

The 76ers, however, may have a struggle to gain support from Silver or fellow teams on holding off the changes.



http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/234469/76ers-To-Fight-Proposed-Changes-To-Draft-Lottery-System

I agree with the league. Certain teams try to be good and fail at it until they do. Changes in management, team culture, player personel all have a hand in that. Not always who has the highest draft pick. The way the 76ers have blatantly threw away the last season and the forseen future is somewhat disheartening and really hard on the eyes. How many years will this take before they begin to try? And it somehwat hurts the league appearance overall imo. Teams can get better without trying to be as bad as possible and hoping for the best.

I personally would love a change in format. It will make teams make smarter decisions rather than just saying screw the system and bomb it out in hopes of landing #1. I also think it would increase competition of the teams trying to make the playoffs. Hopefully also balance out the league talent wise.

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Re: NBA looking to change Draft Lottery; 76ers say no 

Post#3 » by omerome » Wed Jul 30, 2014 3:08 pm

biggestbullsfan wrote:
The Philadelphia 76ers will fight changes to the draft lottery system that the NBA is pushing to implement in time for next season.

Though there are several facets and the proposals haven't been finalized, essentially the goal of commissioner Adam Silver is to balance out the lottery odds so the worst team or teams wouldn't have the highest chances of landing the top pick, sources said.

The 76ers are in a multiseason rebuilding project that is depending on a high pick next season.

The 76ers, however, may have a struggle to gain support from Silver or fellow teams on holding off the changes.



http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/234469/76ers-To-Fight-Proposed-Changes-To-Draft-Lottery-System

I agree with the league. Certain teams try to be good and fail at it until they do. Changes in management, team culture, player personel all have a hand in that. Not always who has the highest draft pick. The way the 76ers have blatantly threw away the last season and the forseen future is somewhat disheartening and really hard on the eyes. And somehwat hurts the league appearance overall imo. Teams can get better without trying to be as bad as possible and hoping for the best.

I personally would love a change in format. It will make teams make smarter decisions rather than just saying screw the system and bomb it out in hopes of landing #1. I also think it would increase competition of the teams trying to make the playoffs. Hopefully also balance out the league talent wise.

Thoughts?

I completely agree. Sports should be about competition.

I mean in the case of the Sixers, why not give away ticket prices then? If they aren't trying to win, they shouldn't try to make money from the fans.

Note: if they are just a bad team that's different. I oppose teams that purposely tank seasons for a chance at a #1 pick.
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Re: NBA looking to change Draft Lottery; 76ers say no 

Post#4 » by biggestbullsfan » Wed Jul 30, 2014 3:10 pm

Yea some teams go into the season hoping to compete and it just doesnt work out that way. Bucks, Pelicans, Kings, Detroit, even the Lakers "tried" if thats what you call it. But before the season even really starts, just blatently saying we are gonna suck for the next few years so just be prepared. Thats lame.
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Re: NBA looking to change Draft Lottery; 76ers say no 

Post#5 » by MCoster » Wed Jul 30, 2014 3:10 pm

And they absolutely should fight it.

It's a good system, and I'm sure the Sixers think it will help in the future as well. But they have every right to fight it if they implement it this season with no notice. You don't think the draft/FA would change for teams if they knew this system would be in place?

Any implemented league change needs proper notice and without notice, would screw the teams that just played by the rules that were presented to them.
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Re: NBA looking to change Draft Lottery; 76ers say no 

Post#6 » by Snotbubbles » Wed Jul 30, 2014 3:12 pm

omerome wrote:
biggestbullsfan wrote:
The Philadelphia 76ers will fight changes to the draft lottery system that the NBA is pushing to implement in time for next season.

Though there are several facets and the proposals haven't been finalized, essentially the goal of commissioner Adam Silver is to balance out the lottery odds so the worst team or teams wouldn't have the highest chances of landing the top pick, sources said.

The 76ers are in a multiseason rebuilding project that is depending on a high pick next season.

The 76ers, however, may have a struggle to gain support from Silver or fellow teams on holding off the changes.



http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/234469/76ers-To-Fight-Proposed-Changes-To-Draft-Lottery-System

I agree with the league. Certain teams try to be good and fail at it until they do. Changes in management, team culture, player personel all have a hand in that. Not always who has the highest draft pick. The way the 76ers have blatantly threw away the last season and the forseen future is somewhat disheartening and really hard on the eyes. And somehwat hurts the league appearance overall imo. Teams can get better without trying to be as bad as possible and hoping for the best.

I personally would love a change in format. It will make teams make smarter decisions rather than just saying screw the system and bomb it out in hopes of landing #1. I also think it would increase competition of the teams trying to make the playoffs. Hopefully also balance out the league talent wise.

Thoughts?

I completely agree. Sports should be about competition.

I mean in the case of the Sixers, why not give away ticket prices then? If they aren't trying to win, they shouldn't try to make money from the fans.

Note: if they are just a bad team that's different. I oppose teams that purposely tank seasons for a chance at a #1 pick.


Pretend you're the Sixers GM. What would you have done differently?

I think the answer is: Not much.
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Re: WT: Philly wants to keep the draft lotto the same. 

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Re: WT: Philly wants to keep the draft lotto the same. 

Post#8 » by GreenWithEnvy » Wed Jul 30, 2014 3:12 pm

As a Sixers fan, I say **** the current management. They don't deserve to win how they are "building" this team. This is not admirable by any means. Lets suck really bad for 4-5 seasons for a chance at being good. I hope the NBA tells them to suck it.
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Re: NBA looking to change Draft Lottery; 76ers say no 

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Re: WT: Philly wants to keep the draft lotto the same. 

Post#10 » by Hangtime84 » Wed Jul 30, 2014 3:15 pm

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Re: NBA looking to change Draft Lottery; 76ers say no 

Post#11 » by biggestbullsfan » Wed Jul 30, 2014 3:15 pm

MCoster wrote:And they absolutely should fight it.

It's a good system, and I'm sure the Sixers think it will help in the future as well. But they have every right to fight it if they implement it this season with no notice. You don't think the draft/FA would change for teams if they knew this system would be in place?

Any implemented league change needs proper notice and without notice, would screw the teams that just played by the rules that were presented to them.


Teams arent giving prior notice to how large the salary cap is going to be until the prior summer. Thats every season without prior notice. The league changed the playoff format and the finals format without prior notice.

And of course, they have every right to fight it. As teams do with any issue they disagree with. But its not logical to say yea they need more time only to figure out how to properly abuse the new system.
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Re: NBA looking to change Draft Lottery; 76ers say no 

Post#12 » by biggestbullsfan » Wed Jul 30, 2014 3:16 pm

Snotbubbles wrote:
omerome wrote:
biggestbullsfan wrote:
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/234469/76ers-To-Fight-Proposed-Changes-To-Draft-Lottery-System

I agree with the league. Certain teams try to be good and fail at it until they do. Changes in management, team culture, player personel all have a hand in that. Not always who has the highest draft pick. The way the 76ers have blatantly threw away the last season and the forseen future is somewhat disheartening and really hard on the eyes. And somehwat hurts the league appearance overall imo. Teams can get better without trying to be as bad as possible and hoping for the best.

I personally would love a change in format. It will make teams make smarter decisions rather than just saying screw the system and bomb it out in hopes of landing #1. I also think it would increase competition of the teams trying to make the playoffs. Hopefully also balance out the league talent wise.

Thoughts?

I completely agree. Sports should be about competition.

I mean in the case of the Sixers, why not give away ticket prices then? If they aren't trying to win, they shouldn't try to make money from the fans.

Note: if they are just a bad team that's different. I oppose teams that purposely tank seasons for a chance at a #1 pick.


Pretend you're the Sixers GM. What would you have done differently?

I think the answer is: Not much.


No one is saying dont do what you have the right to. But when you abuse the system, dont be shocked when they decide to change it.
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Re: NBA looking to change Draft Lottery; 76ers say no 

Post#13 » by MCoster » Wed Jul 30, 2014 3:19 pm

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MCoster wrote:And they absolutely should fight it.

It's a good system, and I'm sure the Sixers think it will help in the future as well. But they have every right to fight it if they implement it this season with no notice. You don't think the draft/FA would change for teams if they knew this system would be in place?

Any implemented league change needs proper notice and without notice, would screw the teams that just played by the rules that were presented to them.


Teams arent giving prior notice to how large the salary cap is going to be until the prior summer. Thats every season without prior notice. The league changed the playoff format and the finals format without prior notice.

And of course, they have every right to fight it. As teams do with any issue they disagree with. But its not logical to say yea they need more time only to figure out how to properly abuse the new system.


And do either of those 2 have much of an impact on the league? No. I dont think teams made changed based on the playoff format or 500k more or less than the expected salary cap.

If this was in effect, who's to say the Sixers don't go for one of the RFA's. If they get him, say like Parsons, Dallas gets someone else that signed with a different teams and so on and so on.
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Re: WT: Philly wants to keep the draft lotto the same. 

Post#14 » by Sixteen » Wed Jul 30, 2014 3:19 pm

Hangtime84 wrote:Orlando is doing a much better job then them right now



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Re: NBA looking to change Draft Lottery; 76ers say no 

Post#15 » by omerome » Wed Jul 30, 2014 3:22 pm

Snotbubbles wrote:
omerome wrote:
biggestbullsfan wrote:
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/234469/76ers-To-Fight-Proposed-Changes-To-Draft-Lottery-System

I agree with the league. Certain teams try to be good and fail at it until they do. Changes in management, team culture, player personel all have a hand in that. Not always who has the highest draft pick. The way the 76ers have blatantly threw away the last season and the forseen future is somewhat disheartening and really hard on the eyes. And somehwat hurts the league appearance overall imo. Teams can get better without trying to be as bad as possible and hoping for the best.

I personally would love a change in format. It will make teams make smarter decisions rather than just saying screw the system and bomb it out in hopes of landing #1. I also think it would increase competition of the teams trying to make the playoffs. Hopefully also balance out the league talent wise.

Thoughts?

I completely agree. Sports should be about competition.

I mean in the case of the Sixers, why not give away ticket prices then? If they aren't trying to win, they shouldn't try to make money from the fans.

Note: if they are just a bad team that's different. I oppose teams that purposely tank seasons for a chance at a #1 pick.


Pretend you're the Sixers GM. What would you have done differently?

I think the answer is: Not much.

A team with cap space and players like Carter-Willams, Young, Embiid, and Noel are players you can use to improve your team. Not just throw another season away because you want to get another top pick. What happens if they don't get a top pick again? Do they tank next year? When does it end?

With cap space, you have options and it seems like the Sixers GM is not exercising them. He seems content to put forth a team with a little chance at winning. And yet the team still wants to charge hundreds for tickets and merchandise?
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Re: NBA looking to change Draft Lottery; 76ers say no 

Post#16 » by Chitownbulls » Wed Jul 30, 2014 3:23 pm

MCoster wrote:And they absolutely should fight it.

It's a good system, and I'm sure the Sixers think it will help in the future as well. But they have every right to fight it if they implement it this season with no notice. You don't think the draft/FA would change for teams if they knew this system would be in place?

Any implemented league change needs proper notice and without notice, would screw the teams that just played by the rules that were presented to them.


This. Can't change it for the upcoming season.

My thing is why do they all of a sudden want to change it? They gave Cleveland it's picks an now they want to change it? Sounds like a cover up.
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Re: NBA looking to change Draft Lottery; 76ers say no 

Post#17 » by Sixteen » Wed Jul 30, 2014 3:24 pm

Keep them top 5 picks coming!
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Re: WT: Philly wants to keep the draft lotto the same. 

Post#18 » by GreenWithEnvy » Wed Jul 30, 2014 3:25 pm

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Hangtime84 wrote:Orlando is doing a much better job then them right now



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i wouldn't really laugh at it. The Sixers have extremely high risk high reward kind of players. The Magic have medium risk or low risk and good to high reward players. Their situation is much more balanced.
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Re: NBA looking to change Draft Lottery; 76ers say no 

Post#19 » by AKfanatic » Wed Jul 30, 2014 3:25 pm

Decrease odds one team can have after multiple lottery seasons. Guarantee 0% odds of getting a top pick multiple times in a small amount of years (ala Cleveland). Stop basing lottery teams on teams that miss the playoffs, instead go solely on record. For all the complaints of eastern teams with worst records than western teams making the playoffs, it's odd that you never hear complaints about those better western teams getting into the lottery over inferior eastern teams. Currently higher talent western conference teams have the opportunity to add higher quality draft talent than low seed/low talent eastern conference teams....so the disparity continues.
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Re: NBA looking to change Draft Lottery; 76ers say no 

Post#20 » by biggestbullsfan » Wed Jul 30, 2014 3:27 pm

MCoster wrote:
biggestbullsfan wrote:
MCoster wrote:And they absolutely should fight it.

It's a good system, and I'm sure the Sixers think it will help in the future as well. But they have every right to fight it if they implement it this season with no notice. You don't think the draft/FA would change for teams if they knew this system would be in place?

Any implemented league change needs proper notice and without notice, would screw the teams that just played by the rules that were presented to them.


Teams arent giving prior notice to how large the salary cap is going to be until the prior summer. Thats every season without prior notice. The league changed the playoff format and the finals format without prior notice.

And of course, they have every right to fight it. As teams do with any issue they disagree with. But its not logical to say yea they need more time only to figure out how to properly abuse the new system.


And do either of those 2 have much of an impact on the league? No. I dont think teams made changed based on the playoff format or 500k more or less than the expected salary cap.

If this was in effect, who's to say the Sixers don't go for one of the RFA's. If they get him, say like Parsons, Dallas gets someone else that signed with a different teams and so on and so on.


I dont see it having much of an impact on the league unless its to the teams banking on having the best shot at #1 over any other team. Its not like we are adding the draft lottery to a system that doesnt have one. Just changing the percentages of chances to be #1. Its a change but its a better one. Now if they got rid of the draft lottery all together, that would be an issue that takes some time to complete.

And if thats the case then the 76ers should have done that this summer with their 30 million in cap space.

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