Trade Ideas Thread

[Celtics_smart34]

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I say its a good joke lol 2 unprotected first hell no plus I think olynyk has a higher ceiling than Monroe

An Detroit has no leverage Monroe doesn't wanna go back there an they aren't getting any sweet deals

[KJandHondo35]

^^ 2 unprotecteds is a bit much... as for Bass/KO ehh thats fine but I'm pretty sure Bogans would be needed to get the Salary up to 12-13M which is from all accounts the low end of what he's expecting.

[Higgs Boston]

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And also give rondo, 17 NBA title and TD Garden, of course.

[Slartibartfast]

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Bass/KO/2 unprotected firsts for Monroe? Nope.

Bass/KO/Clips pick (technically unprotected!) sure.

[KGboss]

Which unprotected picks?

2016 celtics and 2018 brooklyn?....idk....that seems like a lot.

[Higgs Boston]

People haven't enough with Green in SF position? also want another "Green" in C position with overpaid contract and worse attitude? I can't understand this mentality, with that, is impossible end up being contender team in long term.

[kbrow20]

Would you guys package KO or another young asset with Wallace and Bass for Stat to dump Wallace's contract?

[Elrod is Back]

Let's keep KO for another year to see what we have. His upside is still unclear.

I think we have a chance for Monroe, if we are willing to give him a max deal. Ainge is close to Falk.

If Monroe says I want to go to Boston or else I am signing the qualifying offer, Detroit has little leverage.

Then: Jeff Green, Bass, Faverani, Boston's 2015 #1, Cleveland's 2016 #1, Boston's 2015 #2 for Monroe. That seems fair.

(The Cs also get a $3.8 million trade exception.)

[rickrolled]

Who's that guy that tweeted that ^

That's never going to happen, I would never give up any picks if i'm signing this guy to 45-50 million over 4 years. I sure hell ain't including Sully or KO.

Monroe would come to Boston to play CENTER.

We give them Bass, Bogans that should be it take it or leave it. If they say no (likely) then good bye, I won't lose sleep over it.

[tfmiii]

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BARF!

[Slartibartfast]

Anyone think Indy will hit reset with the Stephenson departure and that horrible George injury?

Hill/Stuckey/Miles is hardly the perimeter trio you want to go to war with. West is gonna be 34 at the start of the season. George is out at least a year.

I think a Hibbert trade is that much more likely now.

Would anybody trade Smart/Wallace/Fav for Hibbert?

[robbie84]

Would Larry Bird consider a mini-rebuild while George is out? West is getting old. Hibbert's status with Paul George is questionable.
Doing all I can here to keep Marcus Smart, although unlikely Indiana even listens without his name included.
Miles off?

Sullinger (or Olynyk)
James Young+
2015 unprotected Boston first round pick+
2016 Brooklyn pick +
2015 Clippers pick+
Bogans $5 million+ (exp/waivable)
Thornton $8.5 million+ (exp)
Bass $7 million+(exp)
Anthony $3 million(exp)

for

Hibbert+
West+
fillers.

Now the hard part. Would you swap two of those picks out for Marcus Smart and include him?
Obviously the Pacers only pick up the phone if they are really shopping Hibbert quietly (a rumor that circulated recently).
Leaves us with:

Rondo
Bradley
Green
West
Hibbert

Turner
Olynyk
Zeller
Wallace
Faverani
Pressey
Chris Johnson
MLE

weak bench depending on veteran role players but basically rests completely on the question of:
Are the Pacers really shopping Hibbert ?

[irie]

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wow. If he posted this suggestion on the trade board it would get locked.

2 unprotected firsts (probable lottery picks) for a restricted free agent. When's the last time that happened? If ever?

[irie]

Anyone think Indy will hit reset with the Stephenson departure and that horrible George injury?

Hill/Stuckey/Miles is hardly the perimeter trio you want to go to war with. West is gonna be 34 at the start of the season. George is out at least a year.

I think a Hibbert trade is that much more likely now.

Would anybody trade Smart/Wallace/Fav for Hibbert?

I'd rather do something like Sullinger/Green/pick for Hibbert. Hibbert would clearly be the starting center and that leaves even more of a minute crunch for the bigs.

[FlatearthZorro]

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I say its a good joke lol 2 unprotected first hell no plus I think olynyk has a higher ceiling than Monroe

An Detroit has no leverage Monroe doesn't wanna go back there an they aren't getting any sweet deals

This made me lol, really hard... 2 unprotected 1sts and Kelly just to pay Monroe 12 + mils a year.. Thanks, but no, thanks...

[FlatearthZorro]

Anyone think Indy will hit reset with the Stephenson departure and that horrible George injury?

Hill/Stuckey/Miles is hardly the perimeter trio you want to go to war with. West is gonna be 34 at the start of the season. George is out at least a year.

I think a Hibbert trade is that much more likely now.

Would anybody trade Smart/Wallace/Fav for Hibbert?

I'd rather do something like Sullinger/Green/pick for Hibbert. Hibbert would clearly be the starting center and that leaves even more of a minute crunch for the bigs.

There's not need to add Sullinger to a deal like this, I don't think Hibbert's price should be this high, after what happened in last year's playoffs... Not to mention Hibbert has opt out after next season, which means we will give up Green/Sully and a pick for a 1 year rental(if Hibbert plays well, he will opt out and get lots of money probably)..

I'd do Bass/Kelly/1st and 1 of the unguaranteed contracts... And I'm still not sure, cause Hibbert has shown to be very weak mentally in the last year..

[irie]

Anyone think Indy will hit reset with the Stephenson departure and that horrible George injury?

Hill/Stuckey/Miles is hardly the perimeter trio you want to go to war with. West is gonna be 34 at the start of the season. George is out at least a year.

I think a Hibbert trade is that much more likely now.

Would anybody trade Smart/Wallace/Fav for Hibbert?

I'd rather do something like Sullinger/Green/pick for Hibbert. Hibbert would clearly be the starting center and that leaves even more of a minute crunch for the bigs.

There's not need to add Sullinger to a deal like this, I don't think Hibbert's price should be this high, after what happened in last year's playoffs... Not to mention Hibbert has opt out after next season, which means we will give up Green/Sully and a pick for a 1 year rental(if Hibbert plays well, he will opt out and get lots of money probably)..

I'd do Bass/Kelly/1st and 1 of the unguaranteed contracts... And I'm still not sure, cause Hibbert has shown to be very weak mentally in the last year..

That's fair. I value Hibbert more than most.

[Slartibartfast]

Anyone think Indy will hit reset with the Stephenson departure and that horrible George injury?

Hill/Stuckey/Miles is hardly the perimeter trio you want to go to war with. West is gonna be 34 at the start of the season. George is out at least a year.

I think a Hibbert trade is that much more likely now.

Would anybody trade Smart/Wallace/Fav for Hibbert?

I'd rather do something like Sullinger/Green/pick for Hibbert. Hibbert would clearly be the starting center and that leaves even more of a minute crunch for the bigs.

I'm a little fussy about including Green in these kind of trades. I don't view Turner as an adequate starter at the 3 (especially if we're bringing in a post player).

I think the minutes crunch for our guards is a bigger deal anyway. Rondo/Smart/Turner is one too many non-shooting guards in my book. And I have no problem with crunching guys like Zeller and Bass out of minutes. If Sully and KO are getting minutes, I'm good.

I'd be willing to sacrifice a strong prospect like Smart whom we have an OK replacement for (Turner) if it meant dumping Wallace and adding a strong starting center.

Rondo/AB/Green/Sully/Hibbert would be the foundation of a really good team. Solid bench options with Thornton/Turner/KO/Zeller. A playoff team. Then we'd have a chance at adding another big FA in 2015, or the picks to try and add another max guy in trade.

[drs123310]

I'd rather do something like Sullinger/Green/pick for Hibbert. Hibbert would clearly be the starting center and that leaves even more of a minute crunch for the bigs.

There's not need to add Sullinger to a deal like this, I don't think Hibbert's price should be this high, after what happened in last year's playoffs... Not to mention Hibbert has opt out after next season, which means we will give up Green/Sully and a pick for a 1 year rental(if Hibbert plays well, he will opt out and get lots of money probably)..

I'd do Bass/Kelly/1st and 1 of the unguaranteed contracts... And I'm still not sure, cause Hibbert has shown to be very weak mentally in the last year..

That's fair. I value Hibbert more than most.

I have to admit I do as well. I always take Hibbert on my fantasy team and have a soft spot for the big fella. Was hard to see him collapse mentally last season.

I would love to see the Celtics make a push for him after the PG injury. I think the Pacers will want to compete this year and will not make drastic moves in the off-season, but I could see them not playing well the first half of the season and then make a Hib trade. It would suck to see Kelly/Sullinger go for him but it would be necessary and I would pull the trigger if I was Ainge. Definetly NOT Marcus Smart though.

[GreenMachine]

Would you guys package KO or another young asset with Wallace and Bass for Stat to dump Wallace's contract?

No. MAYBE one of our lesser picks (the Clips pick for example). But we aren't giving up anything of real value to dump Wallace... because we have no one to spend that money on.