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aIvin adams wrote:while i thank 'him' for helping us get Archie Goodwin Man of Action and player-to-be-determined-in-2015, i will refuse to acknowledge him until he gets his dissolution-litigation-loving ass out of that disgusting Laker jersey.
Actually, he seems to still be doing good things for us.
Phoenix Suns majority owner Robert Sarver made an impromptu call into the Burns & Gambo show on Arizona Sports 98.7 FM Friday evening to clear some of the air about the team's relationship with restricted free agent Eric Bledsoe.
Phoenix reportedly offered the combo guard a four-year, $48 million deal in the middle of July, while the four-year pro apparently was looking for a maximum offer of five years and $80 million.
Sarver was asked Friday if he thought Phoenix's initial offer was fair.
"We think it's a fair offer. I think you could argue, you know, I mean some would say it's maybe a little high; some would say it's low," the owner said. "What's fair is important to us, and also important to him -- him and his agent. It's not necessarily us to determine what he thinks is fair; it's him to determine that."
Sarver said he believes Bledsoe has talked with other teams, but as of Friday, the guard has yet to sign an offer sheet with anybody. Sarver added he doesn't know if another team has made an offer, but he knows for sure that Bledsoe hasn't signed anything yet.
The owner also said that he's not concerned, at this point, about if the team's relationship with Bledsoe is becoming strained.
"We're a professional organization, and he's a professional player," he said. "And he's a high-character guy. And his agent (Rich Paul), whose main client LeBron (James), is the utmost competitor and professional.
"As an organization, we do our 100 percent best to get behind the player and support him as best as possible. And what professional players do, regardless of how their contract works out, when it's time to play, they play as hard as they can -- for themselves, their teammates and for the organization. So what takes place before a contract is signed usually doesn't have a lot of bearing on what takes place after a contract is signed -- when you have a high-character athlete and a high-quality organization."
Sarver then commented on the team's impression with Bledsoe through his first season in the Valley, in which he scored 17.7 points and added 5.5 assists and 4.7 rebounds per contest in 43 appearances.
"We like Eric a lot, and I think Eric did well with our organization last year. And I think he enjoys his teammates and his coaches and his organization. And so, from a basketball standpoint, I think it's a good relationship."
Sarver added that the team didn't try to lowball Bledsoe in their first offer to him because of his restricted status.
"We think we gave him a fair offer, and (we would) be more than happy to sit down with him and continue to negotiate it. We're happy to do that," he said.
A Portland Trail Blazers insider recently reported several league sources saying the Suns' relationship with the 6-foot-1 guard is on the verge of being irreparably damaged, but Sarver refused to agree with that forecast.
"I think Eric's a great guy. And he'll be happy here when he gets here, whether that's for one year or for four years or five years," he said. "I think his agent's trying to do the best job he can, too. And I have a pretty good relationship with his agent. It's just part of the process. I wish it would have been resolved earlier, but it is what it is."
The 10-year Suns owner was also asked if he thinks people from Bledsoe's camp are fueling some of the drama surrounding the contract negotiations. Sarver said it's a possibility, but that he's not bothered by it either way.
"I think probably so, but I don't know that that really, at the end of the day, will have any impact on the relationship with Eric and the organization or even with his agent and his organization," he said. "I just think that's just how a lot of this stuff is done. I mean there's so (many) smokescreens ... That part of it doesn't bother me."
Sarver also refused to agree with the notion that Bledsoe's agent is inexperienced and over his head.
In closing, the owner also tried to put the whole negotiations process into perspective.
"One thing fans have got to remember is: Players, their careers are very short," he said. "And at any given moment, they could be a lot shorter. You don't know. And so, they're trying to maximize what they can make. They're not like movie stars where they can go cut a box office hit when they're 45 or 55 years old like John (Gambadoro) is. They want to maximize what they can make. And that's OK."
oh lordoldscho0led wrote:Baseball is all about momentum. Pirates will carry their winning ways and beat Giants in the Wildcard.
A's over Royals. Lester and experience will prove that he's worth the trade.
Tigers winning it all. Tigers are, imo, peaking at the right time.
Jdiddy701 wrote:Gerald green extend right now. This game was so good. If anybody has it, watch it again. Suns at LAC first meeting.
Nothing but bricks for Frye and they take 20 pt lead when he sits out. He won't be missed.
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Frank Lee wrote:Good move by Sarver.....
poker playing 101
kind of calms the animosity and rings true what many proBledders have been chiming.... there is no doubt, we will be better with him than without, as other teams will have their hands full with the Triad of Terror we will unleash every night.
Jdiddy701 wrote:With PG hurt, can the Pacers afford Bledsoe? Hoping they don't offer Bledsoe a contract.
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fromthetop321 wrote:I got Lebron number 1, he is also leading defensive player of the year. Curry's game still reminds me of Jeremy Lin to much.
RunDogGun wrote:Well Nash did win two MVPs, and while I like everyone you listed, I think that no one else won that many.
NaturalBuns wrote:A thread on general board saying who is going to make the
HOF who's still active
People are not including Nash as a lock?
bwgood77 wrote:RunDogGun wrote:Well Nash did win two MVPs, and while I like everyone you listed, I think that no one else won that many.
Doesn't mean he was better though. KJ was probably better overall from 88-91 than Nash (but didn't have quite the supporting cast) was in his MVP years, but of course Nash didn't have a prime Bird, Magic and MJ in the league either to compete against for such honors.
Funny thing is Nash's best year was the year after he won his two mvps. 18.6/11.6/57.5%/45.5%
It's interesting to look at their two best three year stretches side by side. The 3 pt shooting is the one thing Nash was obviously a lot better at, and better shooting overall, but KJ was a good shooter inside the arc and better at everything else.
KJ's 2nd year vs Nash's 9th year (MVP) http://bkref.com/tiny/tkyz7
KJ's 3rd year vs Nash's 10th year (MVP) http://bkref.com/tiny/lcnPJ
KJ's 4th year vs Nash's 11th year http://bkref.com/tiny/4bDUW
The craziest thing to me was that KJ was THAT good THAT fast. Has any other player come into the league and averaged 20+ pts and 10+ assists their 2nd through 4th years? Once he started his first year he probably averaged that too.
I wonder how KJ's career #s would have ended up had he been able to stay healthy. He also had to concede the ball a bit when Barkley showed up because he could be ball dominant and slow the game down.
Jdiddy701 wrote:Markieff and Marcus in the gym again today. Just FYI.
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carey wrote:NaturalBuns wrote:A thread on general board saying who is going to make the
HOF who's still active
People are not including Nash as a lock?
Um, 2 MVPs and 4 50-40-90 seasons (Bird is the only other player to do it more than once and he only did it twice)? That's a lock.
bwgood77 wrote:carey wrote:NaturalBuns wrote:A thread on general board saying who is going to make the
HOF who's still active
People are not including Nash as a lock?
Um, 2 MVPs and 4 50-40-90 seasons (Bird is the only other player to do it more than once and he only did it twice)? That's a lock.
He'll probably make it in because of the mvps. I don't know that people would have cared about the 50/40/90 stuff much as a sole reason to make it in...sometimes making it onto good lists like that isn't enough, for example,
http://bkref.com/tiny/vC9EU
http://bkref.com/tiny/VNNVf
With the MVPs he will probably be given a lot more consideration, but typically his career wouldn't necessarily be considered the type that would be anything close to a lock.
NoKneeBledsoe wrote:bwgood77 wrote:RunDogGun wrote:Well Nash did win two MVPs, and while I like everyone you listed, I think that no one else won that many.
Doesn't mean he was better though. KJ was probably better overall from 88-91 than Nash (but didn't have quite the supporting cast) was in his MVP years, but of course Nash didn't have a prime Bird, Magic and MJ in the league either to compete against for such honors.
Funny thing is Nash's best year was the year after he won his two mvps. 18.6/11.6/57.5%/45.5%
It's interesting to look at their two best three year stretches side by side. The 3 pt shooting is the one thing Nash was obviously a lot better at, and better shooting overall, but KJ was a good shooter inside the arc and better at everything else.
KJ's 2nd year vs Nash's 9th year (MVP) http://bkref.com/tiny/tkyz7
KJ's 3rd year vs Nash's 10th year (MVP) http://bkref.com/tiny/lcnPJ
KJ's 4th year vs Nash's 11th year http://bkref.com/tiny/4bDUW
The craziest thing to me was that KJ was THAT good THAT fast. Has any other player come into the league and averaged 20+ pts and 10+ assists their 2nd through 4th years? Once he started his first year he probably averaged that too.
I wonder how KJ's career #s would have ended up had he been able to stay healthy. He also had to concede the ball a bit when Barkley showed up because he could be ball dominant and slow the game down.
NASH WILL BE HOF - CHILL THE F OUT
I THINK KJ prime was better than Nash prime! thoughts?