Trade Ideas Thread

[GreenMachine]

Anyone think Indy will hit reset with the Stephenson departure and that horrible George injury?

Hill/Stuckey/Miles is hardly the perimeter trio you want to go to war with. West is gonna be 34 at the start of the season. George is out at least a year.

I think a Hibbert trade is that much more likely now.

Would anybody trade Smart/Wallace/Fav for Hibbert?

I'd rather do something like Sullinger/Green/pick for Hibbert. Hibbert would clearly be the starting center and that leaves even more of a minute crunch for the bigs.

I'm a little fussy about including Green in these kind of trades. I don't view Turner as an adequate starter at the 3 (especially if we're bringing in a post player).

I think the minutes crunch for our guards is a bigger deal anyway. Rondo/Smart/Turner is one too many non-shooting guards in my book. And I have no problem with crunching guys like Zeller and Bass out of minutes. If Sully and KO are getting minutes, I'm good.

I'd be willing to sacrifice a strong prospect like Smart whom we have an OK replacement for (Turner) if it meant dumping Wallace and adding a strong starting center.

Rondo/AB/Green/Sully/Hibbert would be the foundation of a really good team. Solid bench options with Thornton/Turner/KO/Zeller. A playoff team. Then we'd have a chance at adding another big FA in 2015, or the picks to try and add another max guy in trade.

We don't have to remake the team in one trade. You don't give up Smart over Green just because we don't have a Green replacement YET. We aren't winning anything next year anyways. Danny would have time to follow that trade up with another (or a FA signing next summer) to get that Green replacement.

It's like what the Sox just did. They realized that over the next few months it would be easier to add pitching then right-handed power. So they traded pitching for power without worrying about an immediate replacement. Now they have a few months to go find a #1 starter. In the NBA it is easier to find a Small Forward then a Starting Center... so trade the SF for a Center and then worry about finding a new SF later. In the mean time, we would get to see what Young and Turner can do. Just like the Sox will now have a few months to see what our young starting pitchers can do...

[CelticFaninLBC]

Anyone think Indy will hit reset with the Stephenson departure and that horrible George injury?

Hill/Stuckey/Miles is hardly the perimeter trio you want to go to war with. West is gonna be 34 at the start of the season. George is out at least a year.

I think a Hibbert trade is that much more likely now.

Would anybody trade Smart/Wallace/Fav for Hibbert?

I can see Indiana deciding to blow it up, but I wouldn't deal Smart for Hibbert. Offer up Sullinger, a pick, and cap relief and see what Bird says. Might have to wait until December when they can move Bradley.

[rickrolled]

I would love to get Hibbert, in a highway robbery of the Pacers.

Offering them Zeller, Thornton, Bogans plus PHI or LAC pick. Probably LAC is closer to get it done.

Then we need a go to scorer and we're set to compete in the East.

I mean Zeller is white, and he would play in Indiana, that would be a perfect match.

Rondo/Smart/Pressey
Bradley/Smart/Young
Green/Turner/Wallace
Olynyk/Sully/Bass
Hibbert/Faverani/Anthony

Still too crowded in the backcourt, I don't like the Turner signing. Still don't.

Hibbert had a JO-esque 2010 playoff disaster but he could definitely have a redeem year.

[Bohemian]

I would love to get Hibbert, in a highway robbery of the Pacers.

Offering them Zeller, Thornton, Bogans plus PHI or LAC pick. Probably LAC is closer to get it done.

Then we need a go to scorer and we're set to compete in the East.

I mean Zeller is white, and he would play in Indiana, that would be a perfect match.

Rondo/Smart/Pressey
Bradley/Smart/Young
Green/Turner/Wallace
Olynyk/Sully/Bass
Hibbert/Faverani/Anthony

Still too crowded in the backcourt, I don't like the Turner signing. Still don't.

Hibbert had a JO-esque 2010 playoff disaster but he could definitely have a redeem year.

Seriously? Come on, the same could be said about white players going to Boston.

And by the way, you should never trust a deal with Larry Bird...he always wins No way he accepts such a deal

[irie]

I would love to get Hibbert, in a highway robbery of the Pacers.

Offering them Zeller, Thornton, Bogans plus PHI or LAC pick. Probably LAC is closer to get it done.

Then we need a go to scorer and we're set to compete in the East.

I mean Zeller is white, and he would play in Indiana, that would be a perfect match.

Rondo/Smart/Pressey
Bradley/Smart/Young
Green/Turner/Wallace
Olynyk/Sully/Bass
Hibbert/Faverani/Anthony

Still too crowded in the backcourt, I don't like the Turner signing. Still don't.

Hibbert had a JO-esque 2010 playoff disaster but he could definitely have a redeem year.

Seriously? Come on, the same could be said about white players going to Boston.

And by the way, you should never trust a deal with Larry Bird...he always wins No way he accepts such a deal

Bird didn't exactly win the Kawhi Leonard for George Hill trade.

[rickrolled]

I would love to get Hibbert, in a highway robbery of the Pacers.

Offering them Zeller, Thornton, Bogans plus PHI or LAC pick. Probably LAC is closer to get it done.

Then we need a go to scorer and we're set to compete in the East.

I mean Zeller is white, and he would play in Indiana, that would be a perfect match.

Rondo/Smart/Pressey
Bradley/Smart/Young
Green/Turner/Wallace
Olynyk/Sully/Bass
Hibbert/Faverani/Anthony

Still too crowded in the backcourt, I don't like the Turner signing. Still don't.

Hibbert had a JO-esque 2010 playoff disaster but he could definitely have a redeem year.

Seriously? Come on, the same could be said about white players going to Boston.

And by the way, you should never trust a deal with Larry Bird...he always wins No way he accepts such a deal

It was said in jest, man. But it is sort of true anyway

[165bows]

And by the way, you should never trust a deal with Larry Bird...he always wins No way he accepts such a deal

He should have taken Bass instead of Scola for the Gerald Green/Plumlee/1st rounder package. Would have been better off for Larry. Maybe Bass was too much $.

[Chris4Vikes]

for Scola, filler, and a pick?

[GreenMachine]

for Scola, filler, and a pick?

No. Neither team would have the motivation to make that trade. Indy would be slightly better... but not good enough to make it worth it. They aren't winning anything without PG. And for the Celtics... Scola serves no purpose and that pick wouldn't be high enough to make it worth it. We have enough middling picks. Basically there is very little upside for ether team... so... no.

[GreenMachine]

And by the way, you should never trust a deal with Larry Bird...he always wins No way he accepts such a deal

He should have taken Bass instead of Scola for the Gerald Green/Plumlee/1st rounder package. Would have been better off for Larry. Maybe Bass was too much $.

At the time Scola hadn't crapped the bed yet. Hindsight is 20-20.

[rickrolled]

Hey, Turner signing isn't official yet, maybe there's hope that he stays with Indiana. please do that.

Hated that signing from day one.

[165bows]

They can't afford him. Too close to the luxury tax and they definitely won't pay it now.

Edit - actually let's just keep these in the trade thread.

[Chris4Vikes]

for Scola, filler, and a pick?

No. Neither team would have the motivation to make that trade. Indy would be slightly better... but not good enough to make it worth it. They aren't winning anything without PG. And for the Celtics... Scola serves no purpose and that pick wouldn't be high enough to make it worth it. We have enough middling picks. Basically there is very little upside for ether team... so... no.

The idea for the Cs is that they get out from under Green's contract and Scola is expiring. PLus a pick.

[rickrolled]

They can't afford him. Too close to the luxury tax and they definitely won't pay it now.

Edit - actually let's just keep these in the trade thread.

Sloan, Whittington could be waived.

Scola could get waived too but I think he stays.

So they could have close to 4 million to offer for the 1st year to Turner. That's more than we could offer him.

[165bows]

They can't afford him. Too close to the luxury tax and they definitely won't pay it now.

Edit - actually let's just keep these in the trade thread.

Sloan, Whittington could be waived.

Scola could get waived too but I think he stays.

So they could have close to 4 million to offer for the 1st year to Turner. That's more than we could offer him.

That was in response to the OP, meant that Indiana would have to send out way more salary to add Green.

[Chris4Vikes]

They can't afford him. Too close to the luxury tax and they definitely won't pay it now.

Edit - actually let's just keep these in the trade thread.

Sloan, Whittington could be waived.

Scola could get waived too but I think he stays.

So they could have close to 4 million to offer for the 1st year to Turner. That's more than we could offer him.

Are there ethical issues to going back on an agreement like that? I am curious why the Turner signing was announced more than a week ago yet not final. Can a player renig on such an agreement?

[Northern hoops]

Pekovic and Budinger for Olynyk Bass Bogans and Protected Pick

[GreenMachine]

for Scola, filler, and a pick?

No. Neither team would have the motivation to make that trade. Indy would be slightly better... but not good enough to make it worth it. They aren't winning anything without PG. And for the Celtics... Scola serves no purpose and that pick wouldn't be high enough to make it worth it. We have enough middling picks. Basically there is very little upside for ether team... so... no.

The idea for the Cs is that they get out from under Green's contract and Scola is expiring. PLus a pick.

We aren't looking to "get out from under Green's contract." Sorry.

Also "Chris" - when you take someone else's thoughts/opinions/trade ideas and post them as your own without giving credit to the person who actually used their brain to come up with an idea (no matter how bad of an idea it is) it is what we call plagiarism. It is also known as stealing. It's pretty lame and makes everything you say from here on out questionable at best. You should honestly be ashamed of yourself. It is what we here call a "Punk Move."

http://www.celticsblog.com/2014/8/2/596 ... or-nba-usa

[GreenMachine]

They can't afford him. Too close to the luxury tax and they definitely won't pay it now.

Edit - actually let's just keep these in the trade thread.

Sloan, Whittington could be waived.

Scola could get waived too but I think he stays.

So they could have close to 4 million to offer for the 1st year to Turner. That's more than we could offer him.

They could just use the injury exception they are about to get and offer him anything up to 5.8 Mil. BUT... they aren't going to. He isn't a good fit there AND more importantly... he has already agreed to terms with the Celts. Could he back out... sure... but that is VERY rare and his agent would catch hell for it. Not going to happen...

[campybatman]

Pekovic and Budinger for Olynyk Bass Bogans and Protected Pick

Replace Pekovic and Budinger with Dieng and Brewer, and omit the first round pick, and I would've an interest. Otherwise, I absolutely wouldn't do the original deal.

Dieng and Brewer in exchange for Bass and Olynyk works.