Hot Water wrote:
You've completely lost me. Didn't you use John Daly - a man with his own addictions and substance abuse issues - as an example of someone who is truly disgraced?
And I was under the impression that disgraced basically meant to bring shame or dishonour upon. I don't think behaviour that is caused by impulses or addictions automatically gets absolved from this label.
John Daly never tried to correct his problem. It became public and he continued in his downward spiral. He represented the every man - sort of like Mr. Ford - but he turned his back on the people who supported him. Drinking while playing golf disrespects the game itself.
Disgrace - 1. loss of reputation or respect, especially as the result of a dishonorable action.
My argument is simply 1) he didn't lose on his reputation or respect. He's still one of the greatest golfers to play the game 2) him being horny is not necessarily a dishonorable action - questionable and stupid yes - especially since he owned up to it and has no instance since.
You don't like Tiger Woods which is fine. But I can't let you hear an alternative side because of it so our discussion will end.
Ska needs to make a comeback.