Fake Trade Thread 2014-15

[Bassman]

I'd like for us to see what Marvin and Cody can give us in some actual games before we look to move some players to upgrade our power forward spot. If a great deal for a player that is a good fit for our roster comes around then yeah we should jump on it, but outside of that I think we should stay put and see what Marvin/Cody can give us before we make any moves.

I thnk this is exactly their plan. Marvin and Cody will compete for starter minutes but both will see plenty of court time. Noah will be given some minutes to gain experience, but he will earn more as he demonstrates his readiness. Ideally, Noah begins to bloom in his soph year, and grabs the starting job soon thereafter. THEN we can deal Marvin as an expiring or consider other options.

I see a minor deal trading from our surplus of 2's at some point, but not likely before the deadline. We can still add a deep reserve 5 from FA at a cheap price.

[yosemiteben]

I'm tempted to explore a way to trade Zeller for LaVine, assuming the Wolves need some PF depth after the Love trade. We don't need another wing though, and Zeller is obviously the better fit with our roster, but I'm seduced by LaVine's potential.

[mrknowitall215]

I'm tempted to explore a way to trade Zeller for LaVine, assuming the Wolves need some PF depth after the Love trade. We don't need another wing though, and Zeller is obviously the better fit with our roster, but I'm seduced by LaVine's potential.

It may become possible if we include both or either of Henderson/Neal to clear some of the logjam in the deal with Zeller that'll bring us back LaVine

I may be in the minority, but I know personally that I'd pull the trigger on a trade of Zeller & Henderson in exchange for LaVine, a filler, and a few future 2nd rounders if it were available

[yosemiteben]

I'm tempted to explore a way to trade Zeller for LaVine, assuming the Wolves need some PF depth after the Love trade. We don't need another wing though, and Zeller is obviously the better fit with our roster, but I'm seduced by LaVine's potential.

It may become possible if we include both or either of Henderson/Neal to clear some of the logjam in the deal with Zeller that'll bring us back LaVine

I may be in the minority, but I know personally that I'd pull the trigger on a trade of Zeller & Henderson in exchange for LaVine, a filler, and a few future 2nd rounders if it were available

I figured I'd check to see if I could make salaries work, but LaVine is only like $1-2M per year for a while, and Zeller + Henderson is sending like $10M. We'd have to take back Budinger and maybe either that Alexey Shved guy to make the salaries work. Not very exciting.

Curious to hear if other people are interested in trying to make something work.

[mrknowitall215]

I'm tempted to explore a way to trade Zeller for LaVine, assuming the Wolves need some PF depth after the Love trade. We don't need another wing though, and Zeller is obviously the better fit with our roster, but I'm seduced by LaVine's potential.

It may become possible if we include both or either of Henderson/Neal to clear some of the logjam in the deal with Zeller that'll bring us back LaVine

I may be in the minority, but I know personally that I'd pull the trigger on a trade of Zeller & Henderson in exchange for LaVine, a filler, and a few future 2nd rounders if it were available

I figured I'd check to see if I could make salaries work, but LaVine is only like $1-2M per year for a while, and Zeller + Henderson is sending like $10M. We'd have to take back Budinger and maybe either that Alexey Shved guy to make the salaries work. Not very exciting.

Curious to hear if other people are interested in trying to make something work.

I figured if Charlotte is planning on getting involved in the Cleveland-Minnesota talks, there would have to be a way to even out the salaries between the exchange of so many players. Maybe we take back somebody from Cleveland. Do we still have Scotty Hopson or Alonzo Gee's waive-able contract on our books?

[BeesWax]

I'm tempted to explore a way to trade Zeller for LaVine, assuming the Wolves need some PF depth after the Love trade. We don't need another wing though, and Zeller is obviously the better fit with our roster, but I'm seduced by LaVine's potential.

It may become possible if we include both or either of Henderson/Neal to clear some of the logjam in the deal with Zeller that'll bring us back LaVine

I may be in the minority, but I know personally that I'd pull the trigger on a trade of Zeller & Henderson in exchange for LaVine, a filler, and a few future 2nd rounders if it were available

I figured I'd check to see if I could make salaries work, but LaVine is only like $1-2M per year for a while, and Zeller + Henderson is sending like $10M. We'd have to take back Budinger and maybe either that Alexey Shved guy to make the salaries work. Not very exciting.

Curious to hear if other people are interested in trying to make something work.

Adding in LaVine would be the only way I would accept Martin coming back. Maybe Neal, Zeller and Taylor for Martin and LaVine.

Walker - Roberts - Pargo - LaVine
Lance - Martin - Hairston
MKG - Henderson - CDR
Williams - Vonleh - FA swing big
Al - Biz - FA swing big

[yosemiteben]

Intriguing jdm. I like Zeller and am pretty concerned about that big rotation, but I'd consider it.

[BeesWax]

Intriguing jdm. I like Zeller and am pretty concerned about that big rotation, but I'd consider it.

Bring in Marion on the cheap and there you go.

[LofJ]

If we're sending out a rotation big (Zeller) in a trade we would need to be getting one back. Free agent pickings are slim right now, so they'd pretty much have to be included in the trade.

[yosemiteben]

If we're sending out a rotation big (Zeller) in a trade we would need to be getting one back. Free agent pickings are slim right now, so they'd pretty much have to be included in the trade.

I'd be down with picking up Blatche for cheap.

[LofJ]

I think a Neal/Taylor/Zeller trade for David West has legs. He'd fit in really well in our locker room. He's from the northeast like most of the rest of our team and went to high school in North Carolina. He was orginally a Hornet too so I imagine he'd enjoy having the chance to wear the teal/purple again in another city.

As an added benefit moving two wings would open up a spot for us to sign CDR.

Walker/Roberts
Stephenson/CDR/Hairston
MKG/Henderson
West/Williams/Vonleh
Jefferson/Biyombo

Can you say Southeast division champs and HCA in (at least) the first round of the playoffs?

[Benjamin Linus]

West is 34 and makes 12 million this year and 12.6 million next year. I wouldn't mind him, but also wouldn't give up a whole lot for him and I don't think I'd give up that much. Henderson has to be involved for sure.

After December 15th, I'd do Marvin+Gerald for West.

[Snidely FC]

I think trading for David West and bringing back CDR would make this team better. For now.

But I think the trade idea runs counter to what CHA's new approach is.

Remember, Higgins resigned several weeks before the draft. Since then, Cho, now firmly at the helm, has taken a decided turn toward younger talent. For the last 18 mths, personnel decisions have been kinda confusing. A year ago, we all thought the team was going to tank for one more season. Instead, while they added Zeller in the draft (Cho written all over it), they signed Al Jefferson. Gone was the rebuild. They kept Josh McRoberts, added Anthony Tolliver, CDR, Gary Neal, Luke Ridnour.

Fast forward to this summer. Higgins resigns. Team drafts Vonleh, a project, over the ready now McDermott. Gone are veteran presences McRoberts, Adrien, Sessions, CDR, Tolliver, Ridnour. In are potentially volatile but higher upside Vonleh, Stephenson, Hairston.

Cho seems to have firmly gripped the reins. His player looks different from Higgin's player. I don't see any way they trade Zeller for West.

[LofJ]

West is 34 and makes 12 million this year and 12.6 million next year. I wouldn't mind him, but also wouldn't give up a whole lot for him and I don't think I'd give up that much. Henderson has to be involved for sure.

After December 15th, I'd do Marvin+Gerald for West.

Indiana wouldn't though.

And Snidely those are some good points about the direction Cho is taking the team in. We've definitely added more youth and upside this offseason. That said Vonleh plays the same position as Zeller and has more upside on a cheaper rookie deal. If we're going to move one of our young players for a veteran upgrade Cody is the clear choice.

[TheKingofSting]

West is 34 and makes 12 million this year and 12.6 million next year. I wouldn't mind him, but also wouldn't give up a whole lot for him and I don't think I'd give up that much. Henderson has to be involved for sure.

After December 15th, I'd do Marvin+Gerald for West.

Indiana wouldn't though.

And Snidely those are some good points about the direction Cho is taking the team in. We've definitely added more youth and upside this offseason. That said Vonleh plays the same position as Zeller and has more upside on a cheaper rookie deal. If we're going to move one of our young players for a veteran upgrade Cody is the clear choice.

Maybe if we added a first?

[LofJ]

West is 34 and makes 12 million this year and 12.6 million next year. I wouldn't mind him, but also wouldn't give up a whole lot for him and I don't think I'd give up that much. Henderson has to be involved for sure.

After December 15th, I'd do Marvin+Gerald for West.

Indiana wouldn't though.

And Snidely those are some good points about the direction Cho is taking the team in. We've definitely added more youth and upside this offseason. That said Vonleh plays the same position as Zeller and has more upside on a cheaper rookie deal. If we're going to move one of our young players for a veteran upgrade Cody is the clear choice.

Maybe if we added a first?

Maybe, I doubt it though. They'd be looking to add cap flexability and pick up a young prospect if they traded West, not tie up more cap by trading for Henderson and Williams.

[JDR720]

I wouldn't trade that much for West, he is too old

[Benjamin Linus]

I agree. He's still a solid player but he's old and on a bad contract. I wouldn't give up a positive asset like a first for him.

[TheKingofSting]

I wouldn't trade that much for West, he is too old

The first would be a late first , I say take a gamble and try to win the East now.

[Liver_Pooty]

Dont really want West at all.