Sixers, Cavs, Wolves.

[Swish4]

Noel for Bennett would be more attractive to the Wolves. Sure Bennett was taken higher, but I think Noel is a better fit in Minnesota and Bennett would be better next to a good defensive center like Embiid.

[MRxBLACK]

Noel for Bennett would be more attractive to the Wolves. Sure Bennett was taken higher, but I think Noel is a better fit in Minnesota and Bennett would be better next to a good defensive center like Embiid.

Good lawd.

[51X3RF4N]

I'm not sure why we're excluding the Lin trade or the GSW/Utah trade from last year. You continue to act like I am freaking about this but all I've said is I think they were missed opportunities.

My initial point was that it's hard to place blame on a GM for not making moves, when there weren't a lot of opportunities to make moves in the first place, and sometimes it is simply out of his control. I don't know why you think I'm acting like you are freaking out. I didn't realize I was giving off that impression. So 3 trades have gone down since last year that fit into the category of something we, as fans, think Hinkie should've been all over.

I'm not saying you in particular, but some fans are indeed acting like Hinkie is getting pwned left and right. That's just not true. I'm also not saying he is "god" or anything of the sort. I'm appreciative of the fact that he's willing to hold on to assets unless the right deal comes along. I hope for the best, but of all the GM's in the league, I think Hinkie is well prepared and aware of the value of asset gathering. And he's darn good at it, as the current state of the team shows. If he misses one or 2 deals this offseason, maybe he makes up for it later with a bigger, better deal. Or maybe he just keeps his hand and goes into the season with it.

Either way, Sixers are going to lose a lot, develop young players, and collect more assets. One or 2 missed trades here or there...especially a trade involving Anthony frickin Bennett or Jeremy Lin, isn't going to hurt too much IMO.

[LongLiveHinkie]

Noel for Bennett would be more attractive to the Wolves. Sure Bennett was taken higher, but I think Noel is a better fit in Minnesota and Bennett would be better next to a good defensive center like Embiid.

Yeah... Hinkie would never do that. For him to do that, he'd have to throw in something.


and by something I mean Wiggins.

[eliasrapp98]

Noel for Bennett would be more attractive to the Wolves. Sure Bennett was taken higher, but I think Noel is a better fit in Minnesota and Bennett would be better next to a good defensive center like Embiid.

Funny joke.

[Mr Sixer]

Noel for Bennett would be more attractive to the Wolves. Sure Bennett was taken higher, but I think Noel is a better fit in Minnesota and Bennett would be better next to a good defensive center like Embiid.

Can we trade Embiid for Shabazz too? Please Hinkie, pretty please?

[BullyKing]

So 1 deal that has happened so far that the Sixers "missed out on". Any others? Also, I'm not sure the Sixers had a chance at that deal specifically. Just my personal opinion, but I feel like Cleveland and Brookyln just had a better relationship with Boston and that played a part in getting the deal done. Brooklyn and Boston did just pull off a huge trade a few years ago with Ainge and BK I believe working on that together. Could be Ainge calling up saying "remember when I gave you a phenomenal deal to get the big 4 together? Well, it's time to pay up".

I'm not sure why we're excluding the Lin trade or the GSW/Utah trade from last year. You continue to act like I am freaking about this but all I've said is I think they were missed opportunities.

I think it's funny that you seem to that every single GM of every team is going to check with Hinkie before making a deal. There isn't some kind of clearinghouse where every potential deal is posted before it happens where Hinkie can just jump in and say "no, trade with me instead!" When you have a specific asset that people are trying to get (one of our players, say Thad, etc.) where you can legitimately say "Hinkie had a chance to trade for _____" and he didn't. Just naming every single deal that has happened during the past 2 years that involved cap space and assuming that sixers had a chance to be in that deal and chose not to get involved is ridiculous. Everyone knows that is not how business works. Someone calls someone and they talk deal - if they can work something out with that team, they may never bother calling anyone else, because.....why bother?

Cap space in itself is not an exclusive asset. You can't assume that every deal that uses cap space is a deal that somehow Hinkie missed out on. Lakers/Lin deal - sure, it was widely reported we were considered. In that case, Hinkie got outbid. But bringing up that Celtics deal or the Utah deal serves no purpose, because you can't assume that the Sixers were ever involved or considered.

Whatever, you literally have no idea what you're talking about. If a team agrees to accept a contract for say 2 2nd round picks, they absolutely call around to see if someone else would do it for 1 2nd. Its not complicated.

[Eyeamok]

Noel for Bennett would be more attractive to the Wolves. Sure Bennett was taken higher, but I think Noel is a better fit in Minnesota and Bennett would be better next to a good defensive center like Embiid.

I know...no I hope you are just speaking from a Wolves point of view.....and not a 76ers one. But my friend and I say with with no malice. Wash your mouth out with soap if evil thoughts like that ever enter your mind again.

[ckchen]

I'm not sure why we're excluding the Lin trade or the GSW/Utah trade from last year. You continue to act like I am freaking about this but all I've said is I think they were missed opportunities.

I think it's funny that you seem to that every single GM of every team is going to check with Hinkie before making a deal. There isn't some kind of clearinghouse where every potential deal is posted before it happens where Hinkie can just jump in and say "no, trade with me instead!" When you have a specific asset that people are trying to get (one of our players, say Thad, etc.) where you can legitimately say "Hinkie had a chance to trade for _____" and he didn't. Just naming every single deal that has happened during the past 2 years that involved cap space and assuming that sixers had a chance to be in that deal and chose not to get involved is ridiculous. Everyone knows that is not how business works. Someone calls someone and they talk deal - if they can work something out with that team, they may never bother calling anyone else, because.....why bother?

Cap space in itself is not an exclusive asset. You can't assume that every deal that uses cap space is a deal that somehow Hinkie missed out on. Lakers/Lin deal - sure, it was widely reported we were considered. In that case, Hinkie got outbid. But bringing up that Celtics deal or the Utah deal serves no purpose, because you can't assume that the Sixers were ever involved or considered.

Whatever, you literally have no idea what you're talking about. If a team agrees to accept a contract for say 2 2nd round picks, they absolutely call around to see if someone else would do it for 1 2nd. Its not complicated.

I don't believe that's true. You're basically saying that every single trade that included cap space in the past two years would involve calling every single team with the same amount of cap space available and trying to negotiate another deal. If there were 5 teams with the same amount of cap space, and the 2nd team accepted your deal, what would be the point in calling teams #3-5? (Especially if you can't significantly change your offer). Are you going to call every single team in the league? Trades would never get executed because every time would have to try to negotiate a deal 5-10 times. I can guarantee you this is not the case.

EVEN IF THE ASSUMPTION THAT HINKIE WAS SOMEHOW OFFERED EVERY SINGLE TRADE WAS TRUE - you're still essentially saying that Hinkie should take subpar/substandard offers. That Hinkie should just automatically accept whatever substandard trade offer he is given just....because? Just to undercut another team? If some team accepts a deal with 2 2nd round picks, you're saying PHI should just accept a leser deal for 1 2nd rounder? Again, ridiculous.

[LongLiveHinkie]

Hinkie has always thought logically and this deal made too much sense to me. If the reports are true that Minny really wants Thad, I see no logical reason why Hinkie would hold it up.

I'm thinking the reports are wrong that Hinkie is the one holding this up and asking for too much, and that Minny may not want to deal Bennett, if anything. Even if Hinkie doesn't love Thad, it's highly highly unlikely he gets a better return for Thad than Bennett. Remember, no one wanted Thad this past Feb. and he was under control for longer then. If he waits until the deadline, I doubt he even gets a 1st rounder.

[Cokeleaf]

Still early guys!

I want BENNETT, I want BENNETT (I just want something to happen that involves the Sixers. It's been too long)

[HartfordWhalers]

I always preferred the Mem 1st.

If its the Mia first instead I'm fully happy.

[LongLiveHinkie]

Dei Lynam thinks trading Thad for Bennett isn't enough for the Sixers and a lot of teams out there would love to have Thad.

C'mon, Dei....

[LloydFree]

The holdup may not be the asset he is asking for in return. The holdup may be in which salaries he is willing to take back. Minnesota may be willing to give up Bennett, but may require the 76ers to take back salaries they are unwilling to accept. Its a cost reward thing.

Everyone just assumes the 76ers are willing to take millions of dollars in salary back for late 1st round picks and such. Just because they have CAP room. That's not necessarily the case. They have to pay those salaries. They already showed last year, that they weren't willing to pay those salaries, up to the minimum floor, until the last minute. Same could happen this year.

[Sixteen]

Dei Lynam thinks trading Thad for Bennett isn't enough for the Sixers and a lot of teams out there would love to have Thad.

C'mon, Dei....

Thad gets underrated around here and people are overlooking the locker room presence aspect. Thad seems perfect for a trying to turn boys into men like the Wolves. And he's only 26, he's not really in his prime either and could have 7-10 more seasons in his tank. Bennet could be completely garbage here.

[BullyKing]

I think it's funny that you seem to that every single GM of every team is going to check with Hinkie before making a deal. There isn't some kind of clearinghouse where every potential deal is posted before it happens where Hinkie can just jump in and say "no, trade with me instead!" When you have a specific asset that people are trying to get (one of our players, say Thad, etc.) where you can legitimately say "Hinkie had a chance to trade for _____" and he didn't. Just naming every single deal that has happened during the past 2 years that involved cap space and assuming that sixers had a chance to be in that deal and chose not to get involved is ridiculous. Everyone knows that is not how business works. Someone calls someone and they talk deal - if they can work something out with that team, they may never bother calling anyone else, because.....why bother?

Cap space in itself is not an exclusive asset. You can't assume that every deal that uses cap space is a deal that somehow Hinkie missed out on. Lakers/Lin deal - sure, it was widely reported we were considered. In that case, Hinkie got outbid. But bringing up that Celtics deal or the Utah deal serves no purpose, because you can't assume that the Sixers were ever involved or considered.

Whatever, you literally have no idea what you're talking about. If a team agrees to accept a contract for say 2 2nd round picks, they absolutely call around to see if someone else would do it for 1 2nd. Its not complicated.

I don't believe that's true. You're basically saying that every single trade that included cap space in the past two years would involve calling every single team with the same amount of cap space available and trying to negotiate another deal. If there were 5 teams with the same amount of cap space, and the 2nd team accepted your deal, what would be the point in calling teams #3-5? (Especially if you can't significantly change your offer). Are you going to call every single team in the league? Trades would never get executed because every time would have to try to negotiate a deal 5-10 times. I can guarantee you this is not the case.

EVEN IF THE ASSUMPTION THAT HINKIE WAS SOMEHOW OFFERED EVERY SINGLE TRADE WAS TRUE - you're still essentially saying that Hinkie should take subpar/substandard offers. That Hinkie should just automatically accept whatever substandard trade offer he is given just....because? Just to undercut another team? If some team accepts a deal with 2 2nd round picks, you're saying PHI should just accept a leser deal for 1 2nd rounder? Again, ridiculous.

Lets say that there are AT MOST, ten teams that (1) have cap space and (2) will use it for taking on contracts for picks rather than adding talent. So you've worked a potential deal out with one. How long do you think it takes to call or email the other 9 to see if they will beat the offer? 10 minutes? 30 minutes? You keep calling to make sure you are getting the best deal possible. It's not like when you are trading a player and a player is unique. Cap space is cap space. If someone is willing to give you say $5 million in cap space for a 1st round pick, then yes, you call someone else to see if they would take on $8 million in salary for the same pick.

And no, no where did I say that Hinkie should take substandard deals so your strawman adds nothing. I'm saying that I would have done each of the deals that were made and would have given a little extra. GSW gave up 2 firsts and 3 seconds - you wouldn't have done that for 2 and 2? You wouldn't have traded one of many 2s to trump the Lakers offer? Sure, there comes a point where if teams keep bidding against each other then it is no longer worth your while if the incentive gets too low. But those deals still had leeway room to me.

[LongLiveHinkie]

Dei Lynam thinks trading Thad for Bennett isn't enough for the Sixers and a lot of teams out there would love to have Thad.

C'mon, Dei....

Thad gets underrated around here and people are overlooking the locker room presence aspect. Thad seems perfect for a trying to turn boys into men like the Wolves. And he's only 26, he's not really in his prime either and could have 7-10 more seasons in his tank. Bennet could be completely garbage here.

I like Thad a lot, but he doesn't have a lot of value around the league. If he did, he'd have been traded already.

[LloydFree]

Dei Lynam thinks trading Thad for Bennett isn't enough for the Sixers and a lot of teams out there would love to have Thad.

C'mon, Dei....

Thad gets underrated around here and people are overlooking the locker room presence aspect. Thad seems perfect for a trying to turn boys into men like the Wolves. And he's only 26, he's not really in his prime either and could have 7-10 more seasons in his tank. Bennet could be completely garbage here.

Locker room presence is overrated.

[Sixteen]

Dei Lynam thinks trading Thad for Bennett isn't enough for the Sixers and a lot of teams out there would love to have Thad.

C'mon, Dei....

Thad gets underrated around here and people are overlooking the locker room presence aspect. Thad seems perfect for a trying to turn boys into men like the Wolves. And he's only 26, he's not really in his prime either and could have 7-10 more seasons in his tank. Bennet could be completely garbage here.

Locker room presence is overrated.

Have you ever been employed at a place where there's somebody that makes your job smoother?

[LloydFree]

Thad gets underrated around here and people are overlooking the locker room presence aspect. Thad seems perfect for a trying to turn boys into men like the Wolves. And he's only 26, he's not really in his prime either and could have 7-10 more seasons in his tank. Bennet could be completely garbage here.

Locker room presence is overrated.

Have you ever been employed at a place where there's somebody that makes your job smoother?

Yeah. And those people are not necessarily in more demand than the more talented and skilled employees.