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Re: 2015 Draft Class Better Top 3 Prospects Than 2014? 

Post#61 » by DayofMourning » Tue Aug 5, 2014 1:41 am

ManualRam wrote:towns' build kinda scares me. he's naturally top heavy and his legs go all over the place.
his gait reminds me of bynum's. i wonder if all that armor around his knees is strictly precautionary.


I was thinking about KAT's NBA comparisons today, and Bynum immediately came to mind. However, Karl can shoot better, pass better, and stay free of injury better (so far;). I love him as a prospect. He's the missing link.
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Re: 2015 Draft Class Better Top 3 Prospects Than 2014? 

Post#62 » by DayofMourning » Tue Aug 5, 2014 1:42 am

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immortalone23 wrote:I feel like Towns won't get much burn with Dakari and WCS in the lineup.



Towns is better than Dakari.
I envision a Towns + WCS starting frontcourt.


Understatement of the year.
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Re: 2015 Draft Class Better Top 3 Prospects Than 2014? 

Post#63 » by ManualRam » Tue Aug 5, 2014 2:12 am

DayofMourning wrote:
ColdBlooded wrote:
immortalone23 wrote:I feel like Towns won't get much burn with Dakari and WCS in the lineup.



Towns is better than Dakari.
I envision a Towns + WCS starting frontcourt.


Understatement of the year.

dakari's more experienced and stronger too. towns is the better nba prospect by far, but i don't think he should be ahead of dakari in the depth chart for UK.
i'd start WCS and marcus lee. i could see WCS and trey lyles too for a better offense/defense balance.
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Re: 2015 Draft Class Better Top 3 Prospects Than 2014? 

Post#64 » by ColdBlooded » Tue Aug 5, 2014 2:19 am

ManualRam wrote:
DayofMourning wrote:
ColdBlooded wrote:

Towns is better than Dakari.
I envision a Towns + WCS starting frontcourt.


Understatement of the year.

dakari's more experienced and stronger too. towns is the better nba prospect by far, but i don't think he should be ahead of dakari in the depth chart for UK.
i'd start WCS and marcus lee. i could see WCS and trey lyles too for a better offense/defene balance.



Only thing Dakari has over Towns is strength. Towns skill level and mobility blows Dakari out of the water.

WCS & Lee are pretty redundant. They'll protect the rim but the paint will be clogged with players who have no range.

Towns ability to stretch the floor works perfect next to WCS. I see this pairing being a no brainer for John Calipari.
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Re: 2015 Draft Class Better Top 3 Prospects Than 2014? 

Post#65 » by DayofMourning » Tue Aug 5, 2014 2:20 am

ManualRam wrote:
DayofMourning wrote:
ColdBlooded wrote:

Towns is better than Dakari.
I envision a Towns + WCS starting frontcourt.


Understatement of the year.

dakari's more experienced and stronger too. towns is the better nba prospect by far, but i don't think he should be ahead of dakari in the depth chart for UK.
i'd start WCS and marcus lee. i could see WCS and trey lyles too for a better offense/defense balance.


I'm not worried about where he is now as a prospect, but where he will be. KAT is talented as hell. If he was an elite athlete, then he'd be a no brainer. He still wins dunk competitions with the hops he has though....

He may suffer in comparisons due to a ridiculous amount of talent on that UK team, but he will find his way out of it and prosper. I'm excited to watch Kentucky ball this year just to see what he can do. A little bit of everything I'm sure.
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Re: 2015 Draft Class Better Top 3 Prospects Than 2014? 

Post#66 » by moss_is_1 » Fri Aug 8, 2014 5:41 am

Excited for the Wolves to snag one of the PF's available to really set off their team for the future. If Rubio struggles we could also be in a position to Mudiay(unless we think Lavine can handle the PG spot).
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Re: 2015 Draft Class Better Top 3 Prospects Than 2014? 

Post#67 » by immortalone23 » Fri Aug 8, 2014 1:39 pm

moss_is_1 wrote:Excited for the Wolves to snag one of the PF's available to really set off their team for the future. If Rubio struggles we could also be in a position to Mudiay(unless we think Lavine can handle the PG spot).

They're gonna have a cold team in a couple of years.
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Re: 2015 Draft Class Better Top 3 Prospects Than 2014? 

Post#68 » by OrlMagic05 » Thu Aug 28, 2014 4:24 pm

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LloydFree wrote:As of right now, I think 2015 the top 3 is better. Mudiay is better than any guard in the 2014 class.


Dante Exum > Mudiay


I don't see it! Dante isn't even the best PG in the 2014 draft class! lol
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Post#69 » by username_taken » Sat Aug 30, 2014 8:50 pm

Wayyyy to early to tell, let's not judge this years draft class until they actually play a regular season game
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Post#70 » by Mattya » Sun Aug 31, 2014 1:54 pm

moss_is_1 wrote:Excited for the Wolves to snag one of the PF's available to really set off their team for the future. If Rubio struggles we could also be in a position to Mudiay(unless we think Lavine can handle the PG spot).


If the a Wolves get lucky enough to get Karl Anthony Towns...
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Re: 2015 Draft Class Better Top 3 Prospects Than 2014? 

Post#71 » by jimmy keys » Tue Sep 2, 2014 5:38 pm

OrlMagic05 wrote:
reanimator wrote:
LloydFree wrote:As of right now, I think 2015 the top 3 is better. Mudiay is better than any guard in the 2014 class.


Dante Exum > Mudiay


I don't see it! Dante isn't even the best PG in the 2014 draft class! lol


He'll have a better career than Aaron Gordon/Payton in my opinion.
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Re: 2015 Draft Class Better Top 3 Prospects Than 2014? 

Post#72 » by OrlMagic05 » Tue Sep 2, 2014 5:54 pm

jimmy keys wrote:
OrlMagic05 wrote:
reanimator wrote:
Dante Exum > Mudiay


I don't see it! Dante isn't even the best PG in the 2014 draft class! lol


He'll have a better career than Aaron Gordon/Payton in my opinion.



Dante? Look how bad he has played for Australia...
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Re: 2015 Draft Class Better Top 3 Prospects Than 2014? 

Post#73 » by LloydFree » Fri Sep 5, 2014 7:23 pm

jimmy keys wrote:
OrlMagic05 wrote:
reanimator wrote:
Dante Exum > Mudiay


I don't see it! Dante isn't even the best PG in the 2014 draft class! lol


He'll have a better career than Aaron Gordon/Payton in my opinion.

I don't see that either. Exum may become a nice player down the road, but I don't know how he has convinced some that he is this surefire star. Exum is no better than Aaron Gordon. I don't know why the Magic are taking heat for passing on him.
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Re: 2015 Draft Class Better Top 3 Prospects Than 2014? 

Post#74 » by jimmy keys » Fri Sep 5, 2014 10:07 pm

LloydFree wrote:
jimmy keys wrote:
OrlMagic05 wrote:
I don't see it! Dante isn't even the best PG in the 2014 draft class! lol


He'll have a better career than Aaron Gordon/Payton in my opinion.

I don't see that either. Exum may become a nice player down the road, but I don't know how he has convinced some that he is this surefire star. Exum is no better than Aaron Gordon. I don't know why the Magic are taking heat for passing on him.


Time will tell I guess. He could be a bust, but I rank him higher than those other 2 as of now.

Exum has a chance to be a star player & I just don't see it from the other two guys. Magic should have moved the picks to get Wiggins.
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Re: 2015 Draft Class Better Top 3 Prospects Than 2014? 

Post#75 » by rumdiary » Sat Sep 6, 2014 11:37 am

I am still really high on Exum, he looks like Kobe on the court with an unselfish floor-general's mindset.

That being said he's VERY "soft". His dunks are all anti-climaxes and he avoids contact a lot. Also he had 10 months off and still didn't really learn how to shoot, even though he said he focused on that area of his game.

Exum's ceiling is still higher than Marcus Smart's, but Smart's already got perimeter defending nailed down and, at the moment, looks to be a safer bet, even if he's not as exciting a prospect.
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Re: 2015 Draft Class Better Top 3 Prospects Than 2014? 

Post#76 » by Marcus » Sat Sep 6, 2014 9:35 pm

rumdiary wrote:I am still really high on Exum, he looks like Kobe on the court with an unselfish floor-general's mindset.


I never understood that Kobe comparison. Where in Exum's game do you see Kobe Bryant?
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Re: 2015 Draft Class Better Top 3 Prospects Than 2014? 

Post#77 » by Ruzious » Sat Sep 6, 2014 10:29 pm

GC Pantalones wrote:
Jazzfan12 wrote:
GC Pantalones wrote:Upside is how fools convince themselves to pick bad players. It almost guarantees a bust. In a few rare cases a Paul George or Westbrook will come out but guys like Love and Rose are more consistently good (only Beasley didn't work out recently that had the skills and everything).


Evan Turner? He still had one gigantic flaw (no jumpshot). I thought he'd be good but not really all that great and I thought most agreed at the time

Otto Porter? 1, the jury is still out on him and 2, he's barely a lotto pick in most drafts

Ammo? Lol no. He was not that good

OJ Mayo? If anything this is a good potential comp because if USC OJ was the finished OJ nobody should've taken him. I wasn't high on OJ until about halfway through his rookie season and I liked EG more because of how great he was before his injury in college

Wesley Johnson? He was like 24. True I wanted him to succeed being a Cause fan but I never really expected it

Derrick Williams? No one thought he'd be great. David West was his comp

Thomas Robinson? Fooled me but I didn't think he was that good. Just the field wasn't good either. Davis and Beal were the only future all stars I thought would come from this class.

Okafor is being compared to greats, has no athleticism issues (not the quickest but he's a power big so he doesn't need to be) and a great skill set. Just like Jabari I feel people are trying to downgrade his athleticism to find a flaw.

I think the comps to greats are extraordinarily premature in his case. He's huge and with good low post skills, but there are so many faults in his game - at this point. He will improve, but it's no slam dunk that he'll improve to the point that he'll be worthy of being a top pick. The fact that a lot of people on the internet compare him to all-time greats doesn't mean a whole lot. I'd think a lot less of him if ManRam hadn't said in another thread that he's improved a lot on some of his weaknesses - but I'm still skeptical until I see it.

Btw, has any college team been as loaded with talent 4's and 5's as next season's Kentucky team? Probably Florida 2006 with Noah, Horford, Speights, and Richard.
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Re: 2015 Draft Class Better Top 3 Prospects Than 2014? 

Post#78 » by No-Man » Sun Sep 7, 2014 12:18 am

Kentucky is even too loaded, somebody should red shirt, probably Lyles, and some others, like Derek Willis, should transfer, I expect Cal to start with either Towns or Lee plus Cauley-Stein, bringing the other with Dakari Johnson from the bench, Poythress can play PF as well, but he will likely play full time SF.

UConn got Villanueva, Boone, Okafor and Hilton Armstrong in 2004 too.
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Post#79 » by rumdiary » Sun Sep 7, 2014 9:43 am

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rumdiary wrote:I am still really high on Exum, he looks like Kobe on the court with an unselfish floor-general's mindset.


I never understood that Kobe comparison. Where in Exum's game do you see Kobe Bryant?

It's not in his game, it's just the way he moves, his mannerisms. Marshon Brooks looks a bit like Kobe on the floor also.
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Re: 2015 Draft Class Better Top 3 Prospects Than 2014? 

Post#80 » by OrlMagic05 » Mon Sep 8, 2014 8:30 pm

rumdiary wrote:I am still really high on Exum, he looks like Kobe on the court with an unselfish floor-general's mindset.

That being said he's VERY "soft". His dunks are all anti-climaxes and he avoids contact a lot. Also he had 10 months off and still didn't really learn how to shoot, even though he said he focused on that area of his game.

Exum's ceiling is still higher than Marcus Smart's, but Smart's already got perimeter defending nailed down and, at the moment, looks to be a safer bet, even if he's not as exciting a prospect.



I almost stopped reading after "he looks like Kobe".... You are right though, he is VERY SOFT!

Has anyone seen him play for Australia??? Not looking good! This kid is ALL HYPE!!

You should be very happy with Smart because he will turn out to be a better player than Exum.

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