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Liqourish wrote:qm22 wrote:^Man I just happen to think it's a red flag if the one in charge of the physical conditioning of multi-million dollar per year contracted athletes is easily duped by what was a comical infomercial scam and was giving it to NBA players. He's heavy into homeopathy, red flag 2. Other teams have substantive comments to make about their trainers. I don't highly approve of puff-pieces being used as analytic tools. That is about all.
Liqourish wrote:qm22 wrote:^Man I just happen to think it's a red flag if the one in charge of the physical conditioning of multi-million dollar per year contracted athletes is easily duped by what was a comical infomercial scam and was giving it to NBA players. He's heavy into homeopathy, red flag 2. Other teams have substantive comments to make about their trainers. I don't highly approve of puff-pieces being used as analytic tools. That is about all.
qm22 wrote:kurtis48239 wrote:qm22 wrote:Arnie Kander isn't who I'd hire. No other team would hire him.
The guy is a bit wacko. Like a legitimate homeopathic medicine type.
Maybe some of it works despite the shaky foundation. But Kander is a guy I will never forget but a machine to change the bond lengths of water (H2O bond lengths...) and was insisting the players drink it and swearing by it's health benefits. A middle school education would have been enough to warn of the obvious fraud behind the machine concept, which was involved in law suits on that matter by other clients.
That aside it is clear that letting Kander being the brains behind all of the physical aspects of our players leaves us behind all the advancements that have been showing up in other organizations (NBA, college sports, etc). The only reason why it may not have mattered is due to players gaining the expertise to train themselves adequately and/or having personal trainers.
Huh,arnie is one of the best trainers in the NBA.His skills really showed keeping our 04-08 squad healthy,especialy guys like dice,sheed,etc.Fans look at the suns,spurs and detroit as the teams with the best trainers in the NBA.
Can you justify the head of a physical maintenance of a NBA team buying into an obvious scam and taking it seriously? Kander is responsible for 04-08? Why? Kander was there in other years too, when we had a league average rate of injuries, I imagine. As far as I know, the main pieces of the squad you mentioned had games suited for it (i.e., Rip's personal conditioning, Sheed's incorporation of finesse to his game, Ben being a unique monster, etc.).
If you ask other NBA teams where the best trainers are on the general board, I doubt anyone says Detroit. It is a testable hypothesis. And I bet if you ask what are the real achievements measured by such departments in other NBA teams, many other teams will have longer lists than us. Other teams actually hire people who have come from established programs that incorporate cutting edge research. I'd take that over homeopathy.
Arnie Kander was in charge of Villanueva's regimen. That reminds me. Like Kander, Villanueva was (once) the subject of local puff pieces full of praise (for off season workouts in his case).
I just googled "best NBA physical trainers" and got,Steady as a spring rain.
Calm as an explosives expert.
Humble as a high priest.
Dependable as your best friend.
Nope, not a Kander piece! Though you would be sure it was him. Surprisingly, it seems every NBA team is full of puff pieces about their staff. http://www.nba.com/nuggets/features/nug ... 00410.html
Pistons fans always seem to believe the George Blaha "best in the business" lines when it comes to Kander, but I haven't seen a statistical comparison of injury evidence or any serious analysis of physical benefits he has brought.
,where you scorned by kander?I have never heard anything negative about kander,and even if he did by into a scheme,hes human,people fall for stuff all the time.