OT: The WWE Thread

[Ruzious]

I like the story, I still think the match sucked though.

Give me more than German Suplexes lol
Got the point across though.


And come on it was definitely 100% agreed upon, at this point Cena honestly seems like he doesn't want the belt. He's had it so many times already. He wouldn't even have it now were it not for D Bry's injury.

But whoever takes down Brock gets the push of all pushes. Actually, maybe only a legend can take him at this point then drop the belt for free.

The legend will not be Kurt Angle. He's 46 years old and coming off losses to the likes of Derrick Bateman. He's no longer believable, imo.

[IMAN5]

Does anyone ever understand what Bray Wyatt says? Are they meant to? Always random metaphors/verbosity. Can't tell if the gimmick is actually supposed to be something or just a guy off his rocker. They pull it off well either way.

i actually hate the whole wyatt family hope they get cut

Bray Wyatt is probably one of the best things to happen to WWE. It shows how a guy can go from Husky Harris, to a completely different person in NXT, to having a major match with the face of the WWE John Cena at Wrestlemania.

Bray Wyatt shows that HHH's vision is taking over instead of Vince's. The WWE is changing and growing real talent, bringing in great characters, people who can to great promos. Gone are the days of every guy being brought in being as bland and massive as Batista. Most of this started when we started seeing guys like Punk and Bryan winning world titles when back in the day they would be described as not having "the look".

NXT Wrestling is one of the best things to happen to WWE. They are growing their talent, they are signing all the top indie guys, they have developed guys like Bray, All 3 members of the Shield, Big E, Rusev, Cesaro, Paige and many others through that system.

With Sami Zayn waiting, Kenta and Kevin Steen signed, throw in Prince Devitt, Adrian Neville. Even talented but "stuck" wrestlers like Justin Gabriel and Tyson Kidd are at least being polished or being developed there. It's a good time for the WWE, because the last 10 years of WWE all they have to show for themselves is John Cena and Randy Orton. They signed CM Punk and Bryan from the indie scenes and those to became the biggest stars. WWE needs to get back to that system and needs to develop their own talent, sign these legends in the indie scene, and continue to grow future main eventers.

[IMAN5]

In regards to the PPV, I honestly have to say I love ths Knicks board for having this WWE topic and a group of great people here to discuss past present and future wrestling stuff.

I only caught the end of the main event but Brock looked unstoppable. I'm positive Cena gets a break now to recharge his batteries and maybe film a movie, but what happens next?

Who gets the first title shot to this unstoppable beast?

Reigns? I think too soon, and Brock would destroy him and send him down a notch.

Orton? Just came off a loss. and if Brock is one of HHH's guys, why would they send Orton after him? Even if there is an eventual plan for Brock to disrespect and turn on the Authority, it won't happen this fast.

Cesaro squashed like no tomorrow. Bryan still injured. Sheamus has not been relevant at all. Del Rio fired. Kane is corporate again. Bray Wyatt would be destroyed and a weird feud to have with Brock. Y2J too old and just came off a loss. Wade injured. Miz just lost. Dolph is IC champ and not main event caliber. Taker is too old and beat up and was just destroyed at WM. Sting is too old and not signed.

Who is left???

[jonny31623]

In regards to the PPV, I honestly have to say I love ths Knicks board for having this WWE topic and a group of great people here to discuss past present and future wrestling stuff.

I only caught the end of the main event but Brock looked unstoppable. I'm positive Cena gets a break now to recharge his batteries and maybe film a movie, but what happens next?

Who gets the first title shot to this unstoppable beast?

Reigns? I think too soon, and Brock would destroy him and send him down a notch.

Orton? Just came off a loss. and if Brock is one of HHH's guys, why would they send Orton after him? Even if there is an eventual plan for Brock to disrespect and turn on the Authority, it won't happen this fast.

Cesaro squashed like no tomorrow. Bryan still injured. Sheamus has not been relevant at all. Del Rio fired. Kane is corporate again. Bray Wyatt would be destroyed and a weird feud to have with Brock. Y2J too old and just came off a loss. Wade injured. Miz just lost. Dolph is IC champ and not main event caliber. Taker is too old and beat up and was just destroyed at WM. Sting is too old and not signed.

Who is left???

cena needs a break because the wwe fan base is tired of his act. he needs 6 months off and a new angle when he comes back. hustle loyalty respect died for him a while back. i remember when he came back for the rumble, that was awesome, loved cena back then.

i really dont know who other than roman reigns can challenge brock. there making brock that ultimate stepping stone type. you beat him, you made it. they did that in the earl 2000's with a few guys i remember. like taker and kane.

wwe is definately in a different direction, the attitude era will for ever be the best wwe era to me. being followed by the PG era absolutely was a two steps back move for them. let see what era they will call the one we are in right now when it is all said and done.

[Ruzious]

In regards to the PPV, I honestly have to say I love ths Knicks board for having this WWE topic and a group of great people here to discuss past present and future wrestling stuff.

I only caught the end of the main event but Brock looked unstoppable. I'm positive Cena gets a break now to recharge his batteries and maybe film a movie, but what happens next?

Who gets the first title shot to this unstoppable beast?

Reigns? I think too soon, and Brock would destroy him and send him down a notch.

Orton? Just came off a loss. and if Brock is one of HHH's guys, why would they send Orton after him? Even if there is an eventual plan for Brock to disrespect and turn on the Authority, it won't happen this fast.

Cesaro squashed like no tomorrow. Bryan still injured. Sheamus has not been relevant at all. Del Rio fired. Kane is corporate again. Bray Wyatt would be destroyed and a weird feud to have with Brock. Y2J too old and just came off a loss. Wade injured. Miz just lost. Dolph is IC champ and not main event caliber. Taker is too old and beat up and was just destroyed at WM. Sting is too old and not signed.

Who is left???

I hope they don't go with Reigns - it's way too soon for him to get in the ring with Lesnar. Unfortunately, the only one I can think of that they could even put in the ring with him is Big Show. Anyone else would have to get annihilated. The only long-shot I can think of that just might benefit from a matchup with him (and it's a real longshot) is Cesaro. If he gets destroyed, that's to be expected, so it doesn't hurt him. If he puts up a fight, that gives him more credibility. And they can use the Heyman angle, because it seems that Heyman dumped him once Brock became available. And frankly, Cesaro might be one of the few who's got the guts to want to get in the ring with Lesnar. Cesaro isn't going to make a main-eventer with his promos, so this might be the opportunity for him. Just sayin.

[IMAN5]

I forgot Big Show, but yeah he's become fan friendly and lost a lot of weight. Maybe he comes out challenges Authority and then Brock destroys him.

[jonny31623]

In regards to the PPV, I honestly have to say I love ths Knicks board for having this WWE topic and a group of great people here to discuss past present and future wrestling stuff.

I only caught the end of the main event but Brock looked unstoppable. I'm positive Cena gets a break now to recharge his batteries and maybe film a movie, but what happens next?

Who gets the first title shot to this unstoppable beast?

Reigns? I think too soon, and Brock would destroy him and send him down a notch.

Orton? Just came off a loss. and if Brock is one of HHH's guys, why would they send Orton after him? Even if there is an eventual plan for Brock to disrespect and turn on the Authority, it won't happen this fast.

Cesaro squashed like no tomorrow. Bryan still injured. Sheamus has not been relevant at all. Del Rio fired. Kane is corporate again. Bray Wyatt would be destroyed and a weird feud to have with Brock. Y2J too old and just came off a loss. Wade injured. Miz just lost. Dolph is IC champ and not main event caliber. Taker is too old and beat up and was just destroyed at WM. Sting is too old and not signed.

Who is left???

I hope they don't go with Reigns - it's way too soon for him to get in the ring with Lesnar. Unfortunately, the only one I can think of that they could even put in the ring with him is Big Show. Anyone else would have to get annihilated. The only long-shot I can think of that just might benefit from a matchup with him (and it's a real longshot) is Cesaro. If he gets destroyed, that's to be expected, so it doesn't hurt him. If he puts up a fight, that gives him more credibility. And they can use the Heyman angle, because it seems that Heyman dumped him once Brock became available. And frankly, Cesaro might be one of the few who's got the guts to want to get in the ring with Lesnar. Cesaro isn't going to make a main-eventer with his promos, so this might be the opportunity for him. Just sayin.

i dont know if its just me, but i swear cesaro is just misssing that 1 thing. i cant put my finger on it. he will always be a mid card talent to me. big show in a way will be a step back because there not pushing talent forward. i feel HHH is trying to bring talent up. he will probably go with the reigns push for wrestlemania against brock. that will push him to superstardom if he beats brock. we will see though.

[jonny31623]

also i wish they turn cena heel. he would be the most hated heel in this era. its a neccessary move. back in the day, when no one knew about kayfabe, wrestlers were hated in real life lol. now that everyone knows its just entertainment and an act, i still feel cena can be the face of the WWE on the outside, but in the ring he needs to just become heel. nothing he can do as a face hasnt already been done. he will never be austin where he can be face forever and always be loved. this is a different era. its gotta be done.

[poeman]

Lol that girl

[poeman]

Guys, I think it might be Undertaker who dethrones Lesnar, and they let him retire a champ.

[Rich Rane]

In regards to the PPV, I honestly have to say I love ths Knicks board for having this WWE topic and a group of great people here to discuss past present and future wrestling stuff.

There is a Pro Wrestling Board where we discuss this too.

I forgot Big Show, but yeah he's become fan friendly and lost a lot of weight. Maybe he comes out challenges Authority and then Brock destroys him.

Blech. I'm done with him. I hope they don't go this route.

i dont know if its just me, but i swear cesaro is just misssing that 1 thing. i cant put my finger on it. he will always be a mid card talent to me. big show in a way will be a step back because there not pushing talent forward. i feel HHH is trying to bring talent up. he will probably go with the reigns push for wrestlemania against brock. that will push him to superstardom if he beats brock. we will see though.

If Cesaro is missing anything, it's his mic skills to cut killer promos and build up PPV matches. They did a solid job pairing him with Zeb Colter and a horrible job pairing him as a face than a heel with Paul Heyman, who just talked about Brock the entire time. It absolutely killed his momentum when it was supposed to take him to the next level and just made him a placeholder as Heyman's guy until Brock returned.

also i wish they turn cena heel. he would be the most hated heel in this era. its a neccessary move. back in the day, when no one knew about kayfabe, wrestlers were hated in real life lol. now that everyone knows its just entertainment and an act, i still feel cena can be the face of the WWE on the outside, but in the ring he needs to just become heel. nothing he can do as a face hasnt already been done. he will never be austin where he can be face forever and always be loved. this is a different era. its gotta be done.

It's tough to buy Cena as a heel anymore. What you see in John Cena in the ring is really John Cena out of the ring. You respect all of his passion and hard work into the business, but it's a gimmick in the ring that everyone is sick of. If there's any way of Cena turning heel now, he needs to take a break. Let him rest up and/or do a movie and somewhere down the line have Brock do a face turn (the only problem is against who?) and Cena coming back to beat him up. The crowds will despise him.

As for who's next for Brock, you guys have to realize that he is still only a part time wrestler and that was his second match of 2014. Who knows if he shows up for Night Of Champions (would be really stupid if he didn't) or Hell In A Cell? Right now, every "contender" is a filler for the return of Daniel Bryan though.

Guys, I think it might be Undertaker who dethrones Lesnar, and they let him retire a champ.

Don't care for this idea as well and I'm not sure if Undertaker does either. He lost his last match and ended his streak to put someone over and not to bury the same guy a year later.

[Juco24]

Guys, I think it might be Undertaker who dethrones Lesnar, and they let him retire a champ.

That's what I'm thinking... Brock keeps the title until Wrestlemania and Taker avenges his only lost while taking the title and ultimately retiring. Fitting ending to an AWESOME career.

[Ruzious]

Guys, I think it might be Undertaker who dethrones Lesnar, and they let him retire a champ.

I can't see it as being reasonable. One of the ways they were selling Lesnar against Cena was that Lesnar is now much healthier than he was when he rassled Taker. Taker will be yet another year more decrepit going against a much healthier Lesnar - who was already better than Taker. They could go that way, but I think most fans wouldn't buy it.

[DASMACKDOWN]

cena needs a break because the wwe fan base is tired of his act. he needs 6 months off and a new angle when he comes back. hustle loyalty respect died for him a while back. i remember when he came back for the rumble, that was awesome, loved cena back then.

i really dont know who other than roman reigns can challenge brock. there making brock that ultimate stepping stone type. you beat him, you made it. they did that in the earl 2000's with a few guys i remember. like taker and kane.

wwe is definately in a different direction, the attitude era will for ever be the best wwe era to me. being followed by the PG era absolutely was a two steps back move for them. let see what era they will call the one we are in right now when it is all said and done.

Ive been saying it for years that the wwe needs to put guys on the shelf to keep them fresh/relevent.

I know its a difficult thing but the wwe needs to understand that they still need to treat their product like its the Young and the Restless or General Hospital.

The thing with Cena is he has always been on tv. No matter who you are, you will get tired of seeing them and their gimmick will grow old. Cena probably has missed a grand total of like 5 maybe 6 Raws in the past calendar year. Thats on far too often. Even when he is legit injured, he still comes back quickly.

Now mind you, its not all Cena's fault. The WWE treats him like a safety blanket. The moment they feel cold, they run back to it to save the day. They need to concentrate on building up their talent the proper way instead of abandoning it the moment they dont feel comfortable.

The funny thing about this is, most of the top guys werent stars right away. Most of them were rookies/mid card type guys until they got their chance and they kept with them. Guys like CM Punk and Daniel Bryan today were Cesaro and Ziggler yesterday.

They just have to change their mindset.

[Meat]

Guys, I think it might be Undertaker who dethrones Lesnar, and they let him retire a champ.

wrestlers dont retire as champs, they go out on their backs. it's the proper thing to do, best for business and what not. elevate the next generation and ****

[Meat]

also i wish they turn cena heel. he would be the most hated heel in this era. its a neccessary move. back in the day, when no one knew about kayfabe, wrestlers were hated in real life lol. now that everyone knows its just entertainment and an act, i still feel cena can be the face of the WWE on the outside, but in the ring he needs to just become heel. nothing he can do as a face hasnt already been done. he will never be austin where he can be face forever and always be loved. this is a different era. its gotta be done.

i thought he would too, with the nicky heel turn earlier, corporate cena

[jonny31623]

Guys, I think it might be Undertaker who dethrones Lesnar, and they let him retire a champ.

wrestlers dont retire as champs, they go out on their backs. it's the proper thing to do, best for business and what not. elevate the next generation and ****

yea but were talking about undertaker here. at wrestlemania? get brock back for last year? i think it just might happen.

[jonny31623]

also i wish they turn cena heel. he would be the most hated heel in this era. its a neccessary move. back in the day, when no one knew about kayfabe, wrestlers were hated in real life lol. now that everyone knows its just entertainment and an act, i still feel cena can be the face of the WWE on the outside, but in the ring he needs to just become heel. nothing he can do as a face hasnt already been done. he will never be austin where he can be face forever and always be loved. this is a different era. its gotta be done.

i thought he would too, with the nicky heel turn earlier, corporate cena

na not corporate cena. that wont work for him. they need a rule breaker kind of cena. doesnt listen to anyone, does what he wants. no more saluting. kind of like austin lol. fans love that. the guy that goes off on the boss lol.

[Rich Rane]

Guys, I think it might be Undertaker who dethrones Lesnar, and they let him retire a champ.

wrestlers dont retire as champs, they go out on their backs. it's the proper thing to do, best for business and what not. elevate the next generation and ****

yea but were talking about undertaker here. at wrestlemania? get brock back for last year? i think it just might happen.

If it does, it's stupid. The Undertaker is a great gimmick, but the absolute draw was the undefeated streak. It's over and he didn't look great at all against Brock.

[Meat]

Guys, I think it might be Undertaker who dethrones Lesnar, and they let him retire a champ.

wrestlers dont retire as champs, they go out on their backs. it's the proper thing to do, best for business and what not. elevate the next generation and ****

yea but were talking about undertaker here. at wrestlemania? get brock back for last year? i think it just might happen.

exactly, we're talking a 30 year veteran with loads of respect for the business. tradition says wrestlers retire "on their back" Ric flair, Sean Michael's, The Rock ect ect.