FREE AGENT/Trade/Transaction Idea thread

[dakomish23]

When does the TPE expire? In June 2015? Go after Koufos or Harris.

[Knicksfan20]

i would love the Knicks to target Nick Calethes..see if they could get him cheap...hes a beast in the making end of last year he really put everything together and was balling

I agree. All around player , great vision, great passer, good ball handler, solid to good defender, good 3pt, gets steals, smart.

Dude put up crazy good numbers when he started last year. I wanna say he started like 21 games when Conley got injured. He would be a perfect fit here.

[bballoctober]

i would love the Knicks to target Nick Calethes..see if they could get him cheap...hes a beast in the making end of last year he really put everything together and was balling

I agree. All around player , great vision, great passer, good ball handler, solid to good defender, good 3pt, gets steals, smart.

Dude put up crazy good numbers when he started last year. I wanna say he started like 21 games when Conley got injured. He would be a perfect fit here.

Got suspended for violating the NBA PED policy before the playoffs. I want to see how he performs this season before I want to see the NYK trade for him.

[Riot Randolph]

i would love the Knicks to target Nick Calethes..see if they could get him cheap...hes a beast in the making end of last year he really put everything together and was balling

I agree. All around player , great vision, great passer, good ball handler, solid to good defender, good 3pt, gets steals, smart.

Dude put up crazy good numbers when he started last year. I wanna say he started like 21 games when Conley got injured. He would be a perfect fit here.

Got suspended for violating the NBA PED policy before the playoffs. I want to see how he performs this season before I want to see the NYK trade for him.

it was a bogus suspension for a propecia product...

[brooklynoxy]

What’s far more likely is that the long rumored Amar’e Stoudemire to Philadelphia deal gets done at the deadline. The Sixers take on Stoudemire’s $23 million salary cap number, which pushes them way over the minimum. They would only owe him roughly 30 percent of his remaining contract, so they’d end up paying him $7 million in cash and likely extract a draft pick or a rookie scale player for their troubles. Flexibility in the NBA is currency – both figuratively and literally. The 76ers will likely meet the floor; they just are not incentivized in any way to do it before the trade deadline. Basketball Insiders

Rumors tagsNew York Knicks, Philadelphia 76ers, Trade, Amare Stoudemire, Salary Cap
- See more at: http://hoopshype.com/rumors.htm#sthash.eJtKiOdH.dpuf

I read this one as well and the penalties get stiffer if Philadelphia does not do anything by the trade deadline. I wanted to get rid of Travis Outlaw in the worst way, so I added him to this deal which will still help the Sixers meet the floor.

Only difference is that the Knicks get Thaddeus Young in return for their "troubles" in giving up two expiring contracts.

If Philly is truly serious about tanking, Outlaw should seal the deal.

http://basketball.realgm.com/tradecheck ... de/6505632

[Knicksfan20]

i would love the Knicks to target Nick Calethes..see if they could get him cheap...hes a beast in the making end of last year he really put everything together and was balling

I agree. All around player , great vision, great passer, good ball handler, solid to good defender, good 3pt, gets steals, smart.

Dude put up crazy good numbers when he started last year. I wanna say he started like 21 games when Conley got injured. He would be a perfect fit here.

Got suspended for violating the NBA PED policy before the playoffs. I want to see how he performs this season before I want to see the NYK trade for him.

As Knicks85 already stated it was for a hair regrowth product. He wasn't doing drugs or taking peds.

[melo mvp 15]

The Knicks have no incentive beyond dodging the luxury tax to dump Amar'e at the deadline. Any huge TPE would be renounced for cap space most likely and it'd still cost an asset. It made sense if it was done earlier to allow us to do a sign and trade this summer and/or use the full MLE, but doing it mid-season is incredibly stupid. The only way it'd make sense is if it was done before the deadline and we had a deal lined up for that huge TPE- which is highly unlikely.

[Boarder Patrol]

Suns are apparently in 'deal mode' for Bledsoe at this point. I'd be wary of paying Bledsoe the max especially with knee issues but it might be a nice buy low opportunity.

[Boarder Patrol]

Here's an idea. We need a 2nd (and third) star player and the Pelicans need off ball threats as there aren't enough shots to go around for Gordon/Holiday/Evans/Davis.

Holiday

for

Calderon, Iman, Larkin, Early

Money is basically neutral for us, Holiday can pass/shoot/defend/penetrate and is probably a top 10-12 PG. Larkin and Early aren't important and Iman's only skill (defense) is made up for by Jrue. Pelicans get players who play off ball and would fit their team better. Money is basically neutral for 2015, may actually add a little cap if we would have re-signed Shump for 4+

Holiday / Prigs
Smith / Timmy
Melo / Outlaw
Amare / Barg / Acy
Dally / Cole

This makes the sum of the Tyson trade basically:

Tyson, Felton, Tyler, Shump

for

Holiday, Dally, Outlaw, Acy, Thanasis

[legendO_Kiko]

What’s far more likely is that the long rumored Amar’e Stoudemire to Philadelphia deal gets done at the deadline. The Sixers take on Stoudemire’s $23 million salary cap number, which pushes them way over the minimum. They would only owe him roughly 30 percent of his remaining contract, so they’d end up paying him $7 million in cash and likely extract a draft pick or a rookie scale player for their troubles. Flexibility in the NBA is currency – both figuratively and literally. The 76ers will likely meet the floor; they just are not incentivized in any way to do it before the trade deadline. Basketball Insiders

Rumors tagsNew York Knicks, Philadelphia 76ers, Trade, Amare Stoudemire, Salary Cap
- See more at: http://hoopshype.com/rumors.htm#sthash.eJtKiOdH.dpuf

Though it is definitely a possibility...this quote is from an article discussing the Sixers having to reach the league minimum or split the money between their players as bonuses. They could look to take on any number of players besides Amar'e.

I think Phil will try to do a little bit more before the season starts. After that...Amar'e and Bargs go on the block. Dalembert as well if he makes it trough the small trade or 2 I assume to see PMFJ trying to put together.

I am not worried about any of it. I am not going to rack my brain trying to sort out the possibilities of players and salaries and trades and FA from next season. I will will never guess it anyway. PJ shocked the **** out of me with that DAL trade.

Let go and Let Phil!!

I hear that! It's a good time to be a knick fan, we have our cornerstone in melo locked down, and Phil came in firing and making moves. He won't settle for anything less than a championship. that's how he and fisher are wired and hopefully they can create that culture quickly. The Knicks have had the talent these last 3 years but lacked direction. Fish is one of my all time "tough guys" I think it's going to be very refreshing from the start.

But I still can't imagine Phil keeping JR around for a while. Phils always been a few steps ahead and hardaway clearly deserves bigger minutes.

[dakomish23]

The Knicks have no incentive beyond dodging the luxury tax to dump Amar'e at the deadline. Any huge TPE would be renounced for cap space most likely and it'd still cost an asset. It made sense if it was done earlier to allow us to do a sign and trade this summer and/or use the full MLE, but doing it mid-season is incredibly stupid. The only way it'd make sense is if it was done before the deadline and we had a deal lined up for that huge TPE- which is highly unlikely.

Are we allowed to use the TPE after we use our cap space? Assuming that's the case. If you can, then maybe Pjax has players in mind who teams are selling that he'll go after the moment he fills up the cap space

[melo mvp 15]

The Knicks have no incentive beyond dodging the luxury tax to dump Amar'e at the deadline. Any huge TPE would be renounced for cap space most likely and it'd still cost an asset. It made sense if it was done earlier to allow us to do a sign and trade this summer and/or use the full MLE, but doing it mid-season is incredibly stupid. The only way it'd make sense is if it was done before the deadline and we had a deal lined up for that huge TPE- which is highly unlikely.

Are we allowed to use the TPE after we use our cap space? Assuming that's the case. If you can, then maybe Pjax has players in mind who teams are selling that he'll go after the moment he fills up the cap space

No. To use cap space you need to renounce all TPEs.

[dakomish23]

The Knicks have no incentive beyond dodging the luxury tax to dump Amar'e at the deadline. Any huge TPE would be renounced for cap space most likely and it'd still cost an asset. It made sense if it was done earlier to allow us to do a sign and trade this summer and/or use the full MLE, but doing it mid-season is incredibly stupid. The only way it'd make sense is if it was done before the deadline and we had a deal lined up for that huge TPE- which is highly unlikely.

Are we allowed to use the TPE after we use our cap space? Assuming that's the case. If you can, then maybe Pjax has players in mind who teams are selling that he'll go after the moment he fills up the cap space

No. To use cap space you need to renounce all TPEs.

Then I see no value in moving him. Dolan wants to rape us on ticket prices he could foot the luxury tax bill

[Jalen Bluntson]

Here's an idea. We need a 2nd (and third) star player and the Pelicans need off ball threats as there aren't enough shots to go around for Gordon/Holiday/Evans/Davis.

Holiday

for

Calderon, Iman, Larkin, Early

Money is basically neutral for us, Holiday can pass/shoot/defend/penetrate and is probably a top 10-12 PG. Larkin and Early aren't important and Iman's only skill (defense) is made up for by Jrue. Pelicans get players who play off ball and would fit their team better. Money is basically neutral for 2015, may actually add a little cap if we would have re-signed Shump for 4+

Holiday / Prigs
Smith / Timmy
Melo / Outlaw
Amare / Barg / Acy
Dally / Cole

This makes the sum of the Tyson trade basically:

Tyson, Felton, Tyler, Shump

for

Holiday, Dally, Outlaw, Acy, Thanasis

This trade wipes out depth youth and flexibility in one shot.

[NBA Fan 1234]

Here's an idea. We need a 2nd (and third) star player and the Pelicans need off ball threats as there aren't enough shots to go around for Gordon/Holiday/Evans/Davis.

Holiday

for

Calderon, Iman, Larkin, Early

Money is basically neutral for us, Holiday can pass/shoot/defend/penetrate and is probably a top 10-12 PG. Larkin and Early aren't important and Iman's only skill (defense) is made up for by Jrue. Pelicans get players who play off ball and would fit their team better. Money is basically neutral for 2015, may actually add a little cap if we would have re-signed Shump for 4+

Holiday / Prigs
Smith / Timmy
Melo / Outlaw
Amare / Barg / Acy
Dally / Cole

This makes the sum of the Tyson trade basically:

Tyson, Felton, Tyler, Shump

for

Holiday, Dally, Outlaw, Acy, Thanasis

This trade wipes out depth youth and flexibility in one shot.

Trades our depth, but not really our youth and flexibility. Jrue is still a young player with a good amount of room to fill out and the combined salaries of Early, Shump (who is a RFA this upcoming offseason), Larkin, and Calderon = Jrue's salary -- so we don't lose any flexibility for next offseason.

[Jalen Bluntson]

Here's an idea. We need a 2nd (and third) star player and the Pelicans need off ball threats as there aren't enough shots to go around for Gordon/Holiday/Evans/Davis.

Holiday

for

Calderon, Iman, Larkin, Early

Money is basically neutral for us, Holiday can pass/shoot/defend/penetrate and is probably a top 10-12 PG. Larkin and Early aren't important and Iman's only skill (defense) is made up for by Jrue. Pelicans get players who play off ball and would fit their team better. Money is basically neutral for 2015, may actually add a little cap if we would have re-signed Shump for 4+

Holiday / Prigs
Smith / Timmy
Melo / Outlaw
Amare / Barg / Acy
Dally / Cole

This makes the sum of the Tyson trade basically:

Tyson, Felton, Tyler, Shump

for

Holiday, Dally, Outlaw, Acy, Thanasis

This trade wipes out depth youth and flexibility in one shot.

Trades our depth, but not really our youth and flexibility. Jrue is still a young player with a good amount of room to fill out and the combined salaries of Early, Shump (who is a RFA this upcoming offseason), Larkin, and Calderon = Jrue's salary -- so we don't lose any flexibility for next offseason.

Calderon is a perfect fit here. is Jrue going to be that much better? When is he going to ant ot get paid?

[NBA Fan 1234]

Jrue is locked into his contract (roughly 11 per) for a few more years. He's different than Calderon, but I think he'd fit in really nicely with us. Although, I'm biased as I've been a fan for a few years now.

I don't see NOP letting him go for that package, though.

[Boarder Patrol]

Here's an idea. We need a 2nd (and third) star player and the Pelicans need off ball threats as there aren't enough shots to go around for Gordon/Holiday/Evans/Davis.

Holiday

for

Calderon, Iman, Larkin, Early

Money is basically neutral for us, Holiday can pass/shoot/defend/penetrate and is probably a top 10-12 PG. Larkin and Early aren't important and Iman's only skill (defense) is made up for by Jrue. Pelicans get players who play off ball and would fit their team better. Money is basically neutral for 2015, may actually add a little cap if we would have re-signed Shump for 4+

Holiday / Prigs
Smith / Timmy
Melo / Outlaw
Amare / Barg / Acy
Dally / Cole

This makes the sum of the Tyson trade basically:

Tyson, Felton, Tyler, Shump

for

Holiday, Dally, Outlaw, Acy, Thanasis

This trade wipes out depth youth and flexibility in one shot.

Saves us 2015 cap space, and we don't give up any good young players.

[Meat]

Here's an idea. We need a 2nd (and third) star player and the Pelicans need off ball threats as there aren't enough shots to go around for Gordon/Holiday/Evans/Davis.

Holiday

for

Calderon, Iman, Larkin, Early

Money is basically neutral for us, Holiday can pass/shoot/defend/penetrate and is probably a top 10-12 PG. Larkin and Early aren't important and Iman's only skill (defense) is made up for by Jrue. Pelicans get players who play off ball and would fit their team better. Money is basically neutral for 2015, may actually add a little cap if we would have re-signed Shump for 4+

Holiday / Prigs
Smith / Timmy
Melo / Outlaw
Amare / Barg / Acy
Dally / Cole

This makes the sum of the Tyson trade basically:

Tyson, Felton, Tyler, Shump

for

Holiday, Dally, Outlaw, Acy, Thanasis

This trade wipes out depth youth and flexibility in one shot.

jrue is a 24 year all star, that frees up about 6 mil more in cap space for next year

[Meat]

This trade wipes out depth youth and flexibility in one shot.

Trades our depth, but not really our youth and flexibility. Jrue is still a young player with a good amount of room to fill out and the combined salaries of Early, Shump (who is a RFA this upcoming offseason), Larkin, and Calderon = Jrue's salary -- so we don't lose any flexibility for next offseason.

Calderon is a perfect fit here. is Jrue going to be that much better? When is he going to ant ot get paid?

Calderon is 32(33 in 2 weeks) and he's not a perfect fit defensively. he is in fact **** and is not getting younger or quicker