The One And Only Offseason Thread 5: Dinnertime!

Sunsdeuce · Post #921 » by **Sunsdeuce** » Thu Aug 21, 2014 2:57 pm

All this hoopla from this cyberx guy and he comes back with this:

Today, 09:27 AM #7804
cyberx Member

"People say put a % to Bled to Rockets... Nothing is close... Prelim stages of discussion with some feelers put out to Bledsoes camp."

This guy went from, Bledsoe is coming to the rockets for only a few small pieces, to the rockets have only put feelers out right now.

I would take anything this guy says with a grain of poo.

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NotTraxxe · Post #922 » by **NotTraxxe** » Thu Aug 21, 2014 3:43 pm

The Rockets talked to Bledsoe's camp. Paul passed it along but was told F* no to their **** draft pick and S&T offer of bench worthy talent.

Bledsoe still hasn't sat face-to-face with the Suns with the demand of pay me Max or we have nothing to discuss.

Suns haven't gotten tempting offers in trades. And they won't. No one is paying Bledsoe max(ish) money AND giving up something significant.

We'll dare him to take the QO.

Nothing will happen here. Rockets are not in current discussions and will not give Bledsoe exactly what he wants anyway. Bledsoe wanted four years from them. He got an offer of 2 at/around the money he wants in the discussion. But Suns won't play ball and trade him without gain. They think he won't take the QO with the risk. And he'll be unhappy and sign 4/12. Or 2/27 with team option the 3rd year.

Then if he signs expect him to be traded by the Deadline for talent. Or we keep him on a decent contract if he isn't too butthurt.

Patience. Patience here is the best strategy. Letting him go now in a S&T gives us nothing but a late first and players we don't care for nor want.

RunDogGun · Post #923 » by **RunDogGun** » Thu Aug 21, 2014 3:49 pm

Thanks Traxxe.

Sounds like we have no reason not to stay the course. We have the best offer.

RunDogGun · Post #924 » by **RunDogGun** » Thu Aug 21, 2014 3:55 pm

I'm still laughing at Harden's comments about being the best all around player. I hope he was just joking around, and then taken out of context. If not, then I went from kind of liking him to thinking he is an idiot. He has a decent game, when he actually applies himself. He can defend every once in a while, but again, it seems more like a lack of desire on that end, then actual terrible defensive abilities.

Post #925 » by **bwgood77** » Thu Aug 21, 2014 3:56 pm

Sunsdeuce wrote:All this hoopla from this cyberx guy and he comes back with this:

Today, 09:27 AM #7804
cyberx Member

"People say put a % to Bled to Rockets... Nothing is close... Prelim stages of discussion with some feelers put out to Bledsoes camp."

This guy went from, Bledsoe is coming to the rockets for only a few small pieces, to the rockets have only put feelers out right now.

I would take anything this guy says with a grain of poo.

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Bledsoe can't fit on the Rockets at a max under the salary cap unless they trade us every player on their roster other than Howard, Harden and Ariza. Those three guys plus a Bledsoe max hits the salary cap. It would be those four and all minimum guys they'd have to pick up that are not even on any teams yet.

If Houston offered him something it was likely after Bosh re-signed in Miami and before they signed Ariza.

Post #926 » by **bwgood77** » Thu Aug 21, 2014 3:59 pm

NotTraxxe wrote:The Rockets talked to Bledsoe's camp. Paul passed it along but was told F* no to their **** draft pick and S&T offer of bench worthy talent.

Bledsoe still hasn't sat face-to-face with the Suns with the demand of pay me Max or we have nothing to discuss.

Suns haven't gotten tempting offers in trades. And they won't. No one is paying Bledsoe max(ish) money AND giving up something significant.

We'll dare him to take the QO.

Nothing will happen here. Rockets are not in current discussions and will not give Bledsoe exactly what he wants anyway. Bledsoe wanted four years from them. He got an offer of 2 at/around the money he wants in the discussion. But Suns won't play ball and trade him without gain. They think he won't take the QO with the risk. And he'll be unhappy and sign 4/12. Or 2/27 with team option the 3rd year.

Then if he signs expect him to be traded by the Deadline for talent. Or we keep him on a decent contract if he isn't too butthurt.

Patience. Patience here is the best strategy. Letting him go now in a S&T gives us nothing but a late first and players we don't care for nor want.

I agree. I think the only way we end up trading him at this point is after he signs with us. I believe it would have to be after Dec or Jan 15th though, but then we could receive some pretty good offers. Much better offers than we will get now. Teams will want him at a reasonable price and to assure he is healthy this season up until then. Sacramento and Milwaukee still seem like the likeliest destinations, but possibly Atlanta as well for Teague and Millsap. Of course I'd like Horford like most people but that won't happen.

PhxSunsFan1234 · Post #927 » by **PhxSunsFan1234** » Thu Aug 21, 2014 4:26 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
Sunsdeuce wrote:All this hoopla from this cyberx guy and he comes back with this:

Today, 09:27 AM #7804
cyberx Member

"People say put a % to Bled to Rockets... Nothing is close... Prelim stages of discussion with some feelers put out to Bledsoes camp."

This guy went from, Bledsoe is coming to the rockets for only a few small pieces, to the rockets have only put feelers out right now.

I would take anything this guy says with a grain of poo.

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Bledsoe can't fit on the Rockets at a max under the salary cap unless they trade us every player on their roster other than Howard, Harden and Ariza. Those three guys plus a Bledsoe max hits the salary cap. It would be those four and all minimum guys they'd have to pick up that are not even on any teams yet.

If Houston offered him something it was likely after Bosh re-signed in Miami and before they signed Ariza.

PHX Gets: Afflalo + McGee + Faried
HOU Gets: Bledsoe
DEN Gets: Jones + Garcia + 1st

NTB · Post #928 » by **NTB** » Thu Aug 21, 2014 4:28 pm

PhxSunsFan1234 wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
Sunsdeuce wrote:All this hoopla from this cyberx guy and he comes back with this:

Today, 09:27 AM #7804
cyberx Member

"People say put a % to Bled to Rockets... Nothing is close... Prelim stages of discussion with some feelers put out to Bledsoes camp."

This guy went from, Bledsoe is coming to the rockets for only a few small pieces, to the rockets have only put feelers out right now.

I would take anything this guy says with a grain of poo.

Sent from my iPhone using RealGM Forums

Bledsoe can't fit on the Rockets at a max under the salary cap unless they trade us every player on their roster other than Howard, Harden and Ariza. Those three guys plus a Bledsoe max hits the salary cap. It would be those four and all minimum guys they'd have to pick up that are not even on any teams yet.

If Houston offered him something it was likely after Bosh re-signed in Miami and before they signed Ariza.

PHX Gets: Afflalo + McGee + Faried
HOU Gets: Bledsoe
DEN Gets: Jones + Garcia + 1st

Why would Denver do that? Mcgee's high salary is a problem but this trade is not worth it.

sunskerr · Post #929 » by **sunskerr** » Thu Aug 21, 2014 4:53 pm

Even if I'm intoxicated, I still don't see much that will change my perspective on Bledsoe's situation. I think we should just stay the course. I'd rather he play on the QO and leave for nothing than accepting a rumored garbage trade scenario. But before that, I still believe he'll be playing on a 4 year deal for the Suns, whether he wants to or not. Nothing posted here really convinces me otherwise. Unless he's really effing miserable here, that is.

LukasBMW · Post #930 » by **LukasBMW** » Thu Aug 21, 2014 5:17 pm

Good to see the Suns are not stupid and know their leverage points.

sunsbum · Post #931 » by **sunsbum** » Thu Aug 21, 2014 5:38 pm

I dont know if Lin can be traded yet but I think he would be great next to dragic and would flourish in the suns system. I'm sure they aren't giving up randel but Lin intrigues me. (No I am not suggesting a straight lin/EB swap)

dgwdum · Post #932 » by **dgwdum** » Thu Aug 21, 2014 5:53 pm

Sunsdeuce wrote:All this hoopla from this cyberx guy and he comes back with this:

Today, 09:27 AM #7804
cyberx Member

"People say put a % to Bled to Rockets... Nothing is close... Prelim stages of discussion with some feelers put out to Bledsoes camp."

This guy went from, Bledsoe is coming to the rockets for only a few small pieces, to the rockets have only put feelers out right now.

I would take anything this guy says with a grain of poo.

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Actually the guy who said it was a done deal was the plowguy who is their other insider apart from cyberx. The cyberx guy actually was the one who told all the other posters that he hadn't heard about any bledsoe deal from "his" own sources.

gaspar · Post #933 » by **gaspar** » Thu Aug 21, 2014 5:54 pm

sunsbum wrote:I dont know if Lin can be traded yet but I think he would be great next to dragic and would flourish in the suns system. I'm sure they aren't giving up randel but Lin intrigues me. (No I am not suggesting a straight lin/EB swap)

If we wanted Lin we would have traded for him 2 months ago and got a draft pick from the Rockets.

gaspar · Post #934 » by **gaspar** » Thu Aug 21, 2014 5:57 pm

Sunsdeuce wrote:All this hoopla from this cyberx guy and he comes back with this:

Today, 09:27 AM #7804
cyberx Member

"People say put a % to Bled to Rockets... Nothing is close... Prelim stages of discussion with some feelers put out to Bledsoes camp."

This guy went from, Bledsoe is coming to the rockets for only a few small pieces, to the rockets have only put feelers out right now.

I would take anything this guy says with a grain of poo.

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It was Plowman who said the Suns will trade a Bledsoe or Dragic for Houston's garbage. Cyberx is credible.

JayBenzy · Post #935 » by **JayBenzy** » Thu Aug 21, 2014 7:05 pm

Qwigglez wrote:
SCourGe OF GoD wrote:HOU 1st , Jordan Clarkson, Jordan Hill for Bledsoe

Sorry, we're not the Grizzlies.

Watch out for Clarkson. The kid can play....

6-5 pg :nod:

dgwdum · Post #936 » by **dgwdum** » Thu Aug 21, 2014 7:10 pm

NotTraxxe wrote:
Then if he signs expect him to be traded by the Deadline for talent. Or we keep him on a decent contract if he isn't too butthurt.

Im not questioning your insider chops man but I do question your source.

Was it last week? that people were on here debating wether rich paul was making threads on Rgm.

If Paul and bledsoe do read these forums (which isn't inconceivable) then what do the suns get by leaking information like that above. Didn't someone say bledsoe didn't want to be viewed as an asset by morey, what happens when he sees a statement like that one above? I don't think it would sit well.

Revived · Post #937 » by **Revived** » Thu Aug 21, 2014 7:12 pm

What do you guys think of McLemore, Derrick Williams, expiring contract of Jason Terry for Bledsoe?

Kings fan offered it on GD.

I think I would for sure do it if they threw in a 1st rd pick.

Post #938 » by **Qwigglez** » Thu Aug 21, 2014 7:50 pm

SF88 wrote:What do you guys think of McLemore, Derrick Williams, expiring contract of Jason Terry for Bledsoe?

Kings fan offered it on GD.

I think I would for sure do it if they threw in a 1st rd pick.

Don't want another No 2. draft pick tweener, especially if he's gonna be a free agent soon anyway. McLemore value is pretty low right now, I think wed be able to get both McLemore and Staukas from them and they both would strive in our system.

King4Day · Post #939 » by **King4Day** » Thu Aug 21, 2014 7:55 pm

SF88 wrote:What do you guys think of McLemore, Derrick Williams, expiring contract of Jason Terry for Bledsoe?

Kings fan offered it on GD.

I think I would for sure do it if they threw in a 1st rd pick.

Williams' value is gone. It'd have to be Stauskas in there for sure. But if we were going to make a deal with them, I'd rather have done it pre-draft. We could have gone after Vonleh.

MilotheSlayer · Post #940 » by **MilotheSlayer** » Thu Aug 21, 2014 7:55 pm

SF88 wrote:What do you guys think of McLemore, Derrick Williams, expiring contract of Jason Terry for Bledsoe?

Kings fan offered it on GD.

I think I would for sure do it if they threw in a 1st rd pick.

I would do it even without the pick, I think McLemore is gonna be a stud. If Williams pulled his head outta his a## he'd be a decent rotation guy.