How long to determine if a player is bust?

[GuyClinch]

For fans its a bit harder - we don't get too see the practices and the day to day play of the young guys. So we have to rely on in game performance. But the GMs know fairly early on - Danny knew he blew it with Fab Melo pretty quickly - for example.

For us we have to wait a few years to see if a guy gets a second contract or if a team uses him when an opportunity comes up..These our are indicators and they are imperfect.

[DynastySS]

Anthony Bennett is not a bust, and I really believe he will be one of the better players of his age group this upcoming season.

Summer League shouldn't be the ultimate judgement on a player, but it does give you a good indication of a player's strengths, flaws, tendencies, athletic ability, and can at the very least hint at what that player's potential is.

And to anyone who watched Bennett in Summer League, it's pretty clear that this kid still has a ton of untapped potential. His injury before the season, severe lack of conditioning, overwhelming pressure that kept building throughout the season, and so on killed his rookie year. But he looks like a completely different player this year - he's still a tank frame-wise but he is quicker, more explosive, just as strong, and mentally he seems more motivated and confident...in short, he looks like a top 5 pick from his draft.

Anyways, I would say 2-3 seasons should be a good indication, maybe 4 if the player is very raw. If they show nothing but "flashes of potential" for 3 consecutive seasons, they may never get it together. At least not as an elite prospect, which I consider the only prospects that are capable of being busts. They could put together solid to good seasons later in their careers like Gerald Green did last year, but they may never get it together as a star player.

And that folks is how we see busts always cycling through the NBA.

I expect nothing from Bennett.

[Guy986]

The first time they stepped foot on the team plane. Be well.

[Bertrob]

when their career ends

[ColdBlooded]

I think that a player needs to play at least 3 years and needs to play for a couple of teams before he can be labeled a bust. Reason being that maybe it doesn't work out with the first team, so he may get a better shot on a different team (see Darko). I think it's very safe to call Thabeet a bust by this point, but the jury is still out on Derrick Williams. If Williams has another poor year, then I think that it doesn't look good.

It's hard to call Bennett a bust seeing how poor the draft looked based on one year. Bennett will have a fresh start with a new team, and if he continues to struggle, then, the "bust" talk might gain a little traction. It's just hard to call a guy bust with such a middling draft class.

No, its not.

The guy is a bust.

[Canada_7]

Using a completely arbitrary number, anywhere from 3-4 years.

My reasoning would be that with that number of years, the player should have somehow figured a way to play themselves into the rotation by then at least. If not, perhaps they would have been moved to a team where they maybe have a chance to finally show what they've got. Of course, there's always the exception.

Question for those older than I am...those of you that watched Chauncey Billups, was he as bad as his stats show he was prior to getting to Minnesota and Detroit? I'm looking at his stats prior to being in Minnesota and Detroit and his numbers are rather mediocre. From his numbers, I would not expect a guy that would end up being Finals MVP, multiple conference finals, and an All-Star.

[Scalabrine]

Bust also seems to imply that the player screwed up or something. Well it's not like he had a friggin' choice where he was picked. I guess I don't see the point in blasting Marvin Williams for being a bust when it was Atlanta who picked him ahead of Chris Paul. I'm quicker to call out GMs and decision-makers.
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Williams was a consensus 2nd pick in that draft and some even thought number 1. Atlanta shouldn't have picked him due to fit because they drafted Smith, Childress, Sheldon Williams, and Joe Johnson all on the team already and they really need a point guard, but Marvin was just considered the better prospect and they just went bpa.


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[BieberLUV]

Bust also seems to imply that the player screwed up or something. Well it's not like he had a friggin' choice where he was picked. I guess I don't see the point in blasting Marvin Williams for being a bust when it was Atlanta who picked him ahead of Chris Paul. I'm quicker to call out GMs and decision-makers.
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Williams was a consensus 2nd pick in that draft and some even thought number 1. Atlanta shouldn't have picked him due to fit because they drafted Smith, Childress, Sheldon Williams, and Joe Johnson all on the team already and they really need a point guard, but Marvin was just considered the better prospect and they just went bpa.


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lmfao I also remember people making cases for derrick williams as the first pick

that was crazy talk even back then

moral of the story: tweeners aren't very good

[Def Swami]

2-3 seasons for me.

[SunsRback4Good]

Bennett could be a special player like Steve Nash. You know that Canadians usually blossom around their peak.

[504ByrdGang]

3rd year

1st year Horrible were not ready

2nd not as bad learning the game trying to regain confidence

3rd Looks like a actual NBA player that can contribute.