Sixers, Cavs, Wolves.

[DavidHume]

Listening to Rob Charry on WIP pisses me off. He mocks the 76ers plan every time he talks about them. He's clueless.

There's a simple solution to this. Don't listen to WIP.

[bebopdeluxe]

A really late first rounder since I see Miami being somewhere between 3 - 6 in the East. I don't see how that is a valuable asset than Bennett who can potentially be an all star some day. A former first who had a bad rookie season, but we do see glimpse of how good he can be is better than a late 1st rounder to me.

The number 3 team in the East last year was still worse than all 8 West playoff teams. This pick has a fantastic chance to be in the 15-19 range even without a major Bosh or Wade injury.

Well, I hope so for our sake but I have a feeling Dwade and Bosh is playing with a chip on their shoulder.

Yeah...and Wade may play with a chip in his knee as well.



I think - all things considered - this is a solid trade. Absolute worst case, IMO, is the pick is 21-22 (because, even if the Heat holds it together and stays healthy, I don't see them finishing ahead of CLE and CHI, are there are probably 6-7 teams in the West that will have a better record). Realistic case is all 8 playoff teams in the West have a better record, as well as at least CLE, CHI and TOR...leaving MIA to fight it out with WAS, CHA and ATL for that last home court spot. So, I see the pick as likely in the 16-19 range, which is a decent haul for Thad.

And - while I am not volunteering to be the president of the Alexey Shved Fan Club, this is a guy who played pretty well in the Rising Stars Game his rookie year and, the summer before that, scored 25 points (13 in the 4th - out dueling Manu in the process...go Google it) in the bronze medal game at the 2012 Olympics.

The kid has some talent.

He is 6' 6" - with legit NBA athleticism. Can our player development staff rekindle this guy's career? Heck if I know. But he does play a position that we DESPERATELY need help at, and he gives me at least one more interesting story line to follow this season.

To be honest, I think the more likely scenario than getting a pick in the 20's from the Heat is having the same sweaty palms we had in May waiting for the Pelicans logo to come up at the lottery.

[Lapinski]

We got a 1st, and two scrubs who don't belong on an NBA roster. Better outcome than the Turner and Hawes trades last year because of the first. Shved needs to be cut right away...shot 32 % last year, 37% his rookie year. Mbah Moute is lucky he is from Cameroon because that might be the only reason he makes the roster next year.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... dal01.html

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[Stills12]

I wanted Bennett

[LongLiveHinkie]

Even though I wanted more, I've made peace with the trade. If it can be 11/12 it will be a great deal. I don't think it will be that high, though. Will just have to root for Wade to fall to pieces.

[Xepa777]

Even though I wanted more, I've made peace with the trade. If it can be 11/12 it will be a great deal. I don't think it will be that high, though. Will just have to root for Wade to fall to pieces.

1) 11-12???? Project your Eastern Conference standings for me because you're bound to be salty at the end of this year.

2) Who else could have needed Thad? Name me a team. And name me a theoretical price that was better than a 18-22 pick.

3) We traded Turner and Hawes last year for 2nds. This is much, much better.

4) LMM is a legit NBA defensive player. Just a step below Tony Allen. You hating hard. Hating very very hard. He's the type of role player a championship team could really use.

[LongLiveHinkie]

Even though I wanted more, I've made peace with the trade. If it can be 11/12 it will be a great deal. I don't think it will be that high, though. Will just have to root for Wade to fall to pieces.

1) 11-12???? Project your Eastern Conference standings for me because you're bound to be salty at the end of this year.

2) Who else could have needed Thad? Name me a team. And name me a theoretical price that was better than a 18-22 pick.

3) We traded Turner and Hawes last year for 2nds. This is much, much better.

4) LMM is a legit NBA defensive player. Just a step below Tony Allen. You hating hard. Hating very very hard. He's the type of role player a championship team could really use.

1. I just said I don't think it will be that high. I think Miami is 5-7 in the East.

2. I also said it was a fair price. I wanted more anyway. Not every trade is done with perfect value on both sides. Sometimes one team get the better end of a deal. Like the Holiday trade.

3. Ok...

4. Are you implying the Sixers could trade him at the deadline? If not, I'm not sure what you are trying to say because the Sixers are a long ways off from being a contender. He was brought in to mentor Embiid and probably little else. If you are implying the Sixers could move him at the deadline, then why couldn't Minnesota trade him to anyone else? No one else wanted him. He's a quality defender, but nothing to write home about as a player.

I don't "hate" I give my opinions.

[GardenFaith]

When I thought you guys were getting Anthony Bennett I said to myself they have a young Charles Barkley in the making again but for some reason he's still goes to Minny sucks, the Sixers are one of the oldest teams in the nba and I loved watching the Iverson Philly years I just hope you guys can get back to that in the future and manage to keep hold of MCW.

[snoopdogg88]

Mbah a moute was traded straight up for Derrick Williams, the #2 overall pick in 2011.


not sure what thats worth, just wanted to mention

[vdalfmd]

Can't believe these reactions. It seems we lost Durant... I love Bennett's scoring potential and the idea of getting such a prospect for nothing like I've read in rumours, but after one season Bennett is just a giant bust and has serious conditioning problems. You're just bored for our boring offseason and bad team, I can't believe you're getting mad for freakin' Bennett, pls...

This is not an exceptional deal like Saric's trade but it is a good one. Losing Thad for nothing (instead of a 1-rounder) would have hurt more. Besides, I don't think T-wolves are doing charity so the trade packages I read in the last weeks were simply unrealistic.

[snoopdogg88]

I'm warming up to the return we got.

Mbah a moute is an excellent defender off the bench. Fits in with the defensive squad Hinkie is trying to build with McDaniels, Embiid, Noel, etc.

Shved isn't a complete turd. There's some potential there at the SG position.

[MCtripDub]

Shved played pg for minny and team Russia too. That makes 3. 3 6'6 pgs on our roster, two of whom are capable of playing sg as well (Shved and wroten IMO)

Mbah moute plays 3 and four, so does jerami grant. And both are projected to be good defenders since they're quick enough to defend 3s yet long enough to defend 4s.

Talk about hinkie adding versatility and another pick for next year, while saving some money by not paying thad's 9m this year, instead paying Shved and mbah about 2m cheaper combined if I'm not mistaken.

Good deal, IMO.


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[SMH]

Even though I wanted more, I've made peace with the trade. If it can be 11/12 it will be a great deal. I don't think it will be that high, though. Will just have to root for Wade to fall to pieces.

1) 11-12???? Project your Eastern Conference standings for me because you're bound to be salty at the end of this year.

2) Who else could have needed Thad? Name me a team. And name me a theoretical price that was better than a 18-22 pick.

3) We traded Turner and Hawes last year for 2nds. This is much, much better.

4) LMM is a legit NBA defensive player. Just a step below Tony Allen. You hating hard. Hating very very hard. He's the type of role player a championship team could really use.

1. I just said I don't think it will be that high. I think Miami is 5-7 in the East.

2. I also said it was a fair price. I wanted more anyway. Not every trade is done with perfect value on both sides. Sometimes one team get the better end of a deal. Like the Holiday trade.

3. Ok...

4. Are you implying the Sixers could trade him at the deadline? If not, I'm not sure what you are trying to say because the Sixers are a long ways off from being a contender. He was brought in to mentor Embiid and probably little else. If you are implying the Sixers could move him at the deadline, then why couldn't Minnesota trade him to anyone else? No one else wanted him. He's a quality defender, but nothing to write home about as a player.

I don't "hate" I give my opinions.

No one wanted LMM? Any articles on that? Jw

[bigdavid]

Part of the logic of this trade, actually a seemingly large part was that Young would leave at the end of this year.
However based on the fact that he had a player option to resign for almost 10 million it unlikely he would have left after this year. Based on what players of his caliber will get on the open NBA market who would have given him 10 million?

I like Thad so essential we have traded him for a late first round pick. Maybe this works.

[CoreyGallagher]

Part of the logic of this trade, actually a seemingly large part was that Young would leave at the end of this year.
However based on the fact that he had a player option to resign for almost 10 million it unlikely he would have left after this year. Based on what players of his caliber will get on the open NBA market who would have given him 10 million?

I like Thad so essential we have traded him for a late first round pick. Maybe this works.

He didn't want any part of the rebuild and didn't desire to play here, he said this past season was by far the worst of his career experience wise. I believe similarly to other Sixers' players that have been traded, Iguodala for instance, he'll be more appreciated and would/will likely find a team to pay him.

[Tony Franciosa]

Listening to Rob Charry on WIP pisses me off. He mocks the 76ers plan every time he talks about them. He's clueless.

I've never heard someone who is so certain about the things they say yet completely wrong in all of them. How does one have one's head so far up one's own ass?

[Sixerscan]

Part of the logic of this trade, actually a seemingly large part was that Young would leave at the end of this year.
However based on the fact that he had a player option to resign for almost 10 million it unlikely he would have left after this year. Based on what players of his caliber will get on the open NBA market who would have given him 10 million?

I like Thad so essential we have traded him for a late first round pick. Maybe this works.

No player wants to be on an expiring contract if they can help it. They are one torn ACL from not having a job. He might not get $10M, but I think it's reasonable to think he'd get a multi year deal at 7/8 million a year based on free agency history. More importantly, it is reasonable for us to assume Thad would think opting out would make financial sense.

[Ericb5]

Listening to Rob Charry on WIP pisses me off. He mocks the 76ers plan every time he talks about them. He's clueless.

There's a simple solution to this. Don't listen to WIP.

I stopped listening years ago and am much happier for it.

Rob Charry is especially annoying. I remember during the 2001 playoffs each of the first three rounds the Sixers lost the first game and he was talking about them like they choked and the season was over.

Then suddenly they are in the finals and win the first game and barely lose the second one and he is talking about how they are going to win the title. He is a classic contrarian d-bag.

You would think that he would learn his lesson about counting chickens before they hatch. Most any passionate fan over the age of 30 has seen massive upsets enough to know that you never really know what is going to happen.


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