Jackie M - Rondo wants out?

[Dogen]

Greg Monroe accepted the QO from DET, He has the right to veto any trade, because he'll lose his bird rights.

He won't come to Boston for Rondo. Just forget about trade ideas involving Monroe.

As for Sacramento, We have no need for McLemore with Bradley, Young, and Smart (combo guard). Plus any pick they have will be really bad and at least in 2017. That's all nonsensical for Boston.

The trade I see reasonable for Boston, not optimal but reasonable is Bledsoe sign and trade with the Lakers pick.

But for Phoenix, they have signed Thomas, Dragic is a UFA next year, and Rondo will not sign an extension if traded, but test FA next year. So what seems good for Boston might not even be possible for PHX.

And when it's not optimal to get Bledsoe, because we have Smart already. Bledsoe has knee issues and hasn't played many games the last 2 years.

So all in all I think Rondo plays out the year in Boston, don't see any trades out there that helps us long term or short.

Trade deadline will come and go (take my word for it) and Rondo will remain with the Celtics.

All of this^

I'm concerned that this is going to go very badly. The timing is awful. Rondo wants to go to a winner, but all the contenders either don't have the right assets for us, are already good at PG position, or are otherwise pretty set as they are. MAYBE another disgruntled star will emerge during the first half of the season, or an injury will happen, but we can't rely on that.

Now that the Love trade has happened, Rondo is looking for sloppy seconds. It's a shame that it's come down to this. We don't know if the request is directly from him or from a reporter or just speculation, but if it;s coming from him he should have just kept his mouth shut. I mean, players can use the trade checker to right? Teams like the Kings are available trade partners. You may not want to resign there but it doesn't mean that therefore you go to Houston or the Clippers. Those teams generally want to keep their stars.

IDK, has anyone come up with a sensible three team trade for Rondo? I'd like to see it.

NOT looking forward to seeing this drag out over the course of the season. Ainge reasonably does not like to take 80 cent on the dollar deals but as an NBA fan I'd rather see him moved then have to deal with this on the ESPN ticker up to the trade deadline.

[Dogen]

ying a full damn season with us rebuilding, that says a lot.

My best options would be to the Lakers for Nash and Randle, to the Suns for Dragic + Len or to the Kings for Stauskas or McLemore +Fillers.

Doubt PHX will trade Dragic, but I'd take that deal. Rondo says he won't resign with the Kings but the Celtics might take it if the Kings want to roll the dice.

The Laker deal is intriguing. They have Boozer at the 4 and stay relevant with Kobe and Rondo for a couple more years. Rondo would probably resign since it's LA. Randle is at a position we're pretty deep at, but it's a rebuild so you gotta look at a bunch of pieces and build assets. Having both Smart and Randle from the 2014 draft might end up a very good haul. I like Randle. May not be a superstar but will be solid.

[shawn unkempt]

I don't doubt that Rondo wants out but I don't see any good trade partners out there. Maybe at the deadline we'll pull some Mclemore & filler crap kind of trade just to get something at all.

[robbie84]

I don't doubt that Rondo wants out but I don't see any good trade partners out there. Maybe at the deadline we'll pull some Mclemore & filler crap kind of trade just to get something at all.

There aren't any.
I can see us getting Mclemore for him from the Kings if he demands to be sign and traded there when they're the only ones offering the max.
If you truly believe you're the only team that can sign him for the max then you can also wait till he's a free agent and then hopefully give up less assets. Problem now though is your salary cap benefits are screwed as the team accepting him in the trade.....

[brackdan70]

Greg Monroe accepted the QO from DET, He has the right to veto any trade, because he'll lose his bird rights.

He won't come to Boston for Rondo. Just forget about trade ideas involving Monroe.

As for Sacramento, We have no need for McLemore with Bradley, Young, and Smart (combo guard). Plus any pick they have will be really bad and at least in 2017. That's all nonsensical for Boston.

The trade I see reasonable for Boston, not optimal but reasonable is Bledsoe sign and trade with the Lakers pick.

But for Phoenix, they have signed Thomas, Dragic is a UFA next year, and Rondo will not sign an extension if traded, but test FA next year. So what seems good for Boston might not even be possible for PHX.

And when it's not optimal to get Bledsoe, because we have Smart already. Bledsoe has knee issues and hasn't played many games the last 2 years.

So all in all I think Rondo plays out the year in Boston, don't see any trades out there that helps us long term or short.

Trade deadline will come and go (take my word for it) and Rondo will remain with the Celtics.

Has Monroe actually signed yet? He has until Oct. 1....

[Captain_Caveman]

FWIW, Monroe has not yet accepted the QO. Could easily be posturing, and at least does not close the door on it.

http://www.freep.com/article/20140830/S ... 1/sports03

But again, where does Jennings go?

[humblebum]

FWIW, Monroe has not yet accepted the QO. Could easily be posturing, and at least does not close the door on it.

http://www.freep.com/article/20140830/S ... 1/sports03

But again, where does Jennings go?

The route of overpaid backup?

[slicedbread2]

I think it sucks, but you can't really blame Rondo considering the direction the team is heading in. Imagine Smart and Rondo playing together Teams would just clog the paint knowing that you have two players who are extreme liabilities when it comes to outside shooting.

To me, if they are going to get a trade done, most likely considering the limited market it will be Houston or Sacramento. They'd be the best teams in terms of trying to get assets from if anything considering other teams either have their PG's filled or have vacancies, but lack the assets. I'd do Sacramento first with the Pistons though it'd have to wait until October:

Sacramento: Rajon Rondo, Josh Smith, Kyle Singler
Detroit: Derrick Williams, Jason Thompson, Ray McCallum, Joel Anthony, SAC 2016 second
Boston: Ben McLemore, Jason Terry, Wayne Ellington, Jeremy Tyler, 2 first rounders in 2017 and 2019 and 2 second rounders(New York 2016) and 2017 second rounder via SAC

I think the value isn't perfect, but it's not too shabby.

The Kings give up a bevy of assets, but they combine them to get Rondo and Smith to round out their starting 5 and with Rondo, Gay and Smith apparently being tight, this may coerce Gay and Rondo into signing an extension to stay and they also get Singler who is most likely expendable due to the excess of wings there.

Detroit has been looking for the right deal to get rid of Smith and I think this would be perfect even though they have to eat Thompson's deal although the last year of it is a team option for 2.65 million and that would open a lot of cap space for them to surround Drummond with talent. Plus they get a pick and a tryout basis for D-Will to see if he can salvage anything at all. If not, he's an expiring along with Anthony and they bring home a local player in McCallum who has some good potential and who can't be worse than Jennings.

For Boston, I don't like giving up proven talent, but when says talent lets you know that he's not sticking around, you got to get the best offer you can get and they get an opportunity to work with McLemore who could become their future starting 2 guard. He's a bit of a project that came out of a weak draft, but I think he can really flourish under Stevens and could work well with Smart. They get a bunch of expiring deals as well along with future picks they can stash for the future purpose of a trade perhaps.

The other idea is to send him to Houston for a package centred around Capela whom I see Ibaka-like comparisons although he's also a project. In the end, it depends on what Ainge is looking for.

[Edug27]

Sacramento: Rajon Rondo, Josh Smith, Kyle Singler
Detroit: Derrick Williams, Jason Thompson, Ray McCallum, Joel Anthony, SAC 2016 second
Boston: Ben McLemore, Jason Terry, Wayne Ellington, Jeremy Tyler, 2 first rounders in 2017 and 2019 and 2 second rounders(New York 2016) and 2017 second rounder .

Think you're onto something here ...

[PaulGaston]

If it's true that he will not re-sign in Boston or Sac, I imagine there are other teams he refuses to re-sign with as well. It will narrow down our options and we'll prob end up just trading him to the Knicks along with Wallace for Amare's expiring + an asset or two.

[15th overall]

The return will be terrible.

[ermocrate]

Maybe we can make a trade Rondo+Green for Hibbert and fillers... I can't see much more out there...

[eris]

Two points,

1. I'm almost positive rumors that Pierce might want out were floating around during the last rebuild. Nothing public or official, just whispers. He stayed because Danny convinced him to stay with his actions. Will history repeat?

2. If it comes down to Rondo leavin, remember,, sometimes nothing is better than something. Better to get nothing, and open up a max salary slot than take on a load of mediocre contracts that kill your cap flexibility, can't be moved for one big fish, and leave you stuck in the middle of the pack.

[UGA Hayes]

Depending on what we get back I don't think it would be the worst thing in the world. Between his injury and player skills et he figures to age poorly.

[Jammer]

There is a difference between "wanting out"

and not "committing to re-sign" next summer.

Rondo has said that he wants to explore Free Agency. That means he'll listen to other teams, and if they have the cap space, perhaps follow the money (i.e. New York Knicks, who will only have $40 million committed to 6 players next year (Carmello Anthony, Tim Hardaway Jr., Jose Calderon, J.R. Smith, Shane Larkin and Cleanthony Early - but Calderon and Larkin are both Point Guards).

[DarkAzcura]

There is a difference between "wanting out"

and not "committing to re-sign" next summer.

Rondo has said that he wants to explore Free Agency. That means he'll listen to other teams, and if they have the cap space, perhaps follow the money (i.e. New York Knicks, who already have Jose Calderon, who can shoot, an essential element of the Triangle offense, but Knicks will only have $40 million committed to 6 players next year (Carmello Anthony, Tim Hardaway Jr., Jose Calderon, J.R. Smith, Shane Larkin and Cleanthony Early).

I think everyone understands that, but that's not what Jackie M said. That's why it is a bit different. No one has an issue with Rondo exploring free agency. Everyone does it nowadays. Like you said, there is a difference, and if there is truth to it at all (and Jackie is not exaggerating based on Rondo's desire to test free agency), this isn't looking good.

[chasebaca834]

Bench him the whole 2014–15 NBA season.

[GuyClinch]

Can you see any future in which this team and Rondo become a championship contender? I cannot. That is why Rondo wants out, IMHO and why I believe Jackie O. It's the same reason Ray Allen wanted out.. Once you get a taste of the glory - its hard to go back to the down year. Rondo has only played for two bad teams now.. He is not used to it.

Why trade now? Because as you get closer till the time he has to resign your return will shrink..

[Causeway Street]

I'm definitely a Rondo fan, and my first preference is for the team to be successful with him on it. This is only because I like to make up trades and play with the trade machine:

Rondo, Bass for Kidd-Gilchrest, Biyombo, Henderson

The idea being CHA makes competitive push and we embrace development.

[truth18]

Can you see any future in which this team and Rondo become a championship contender? I cannot. That is why Rondo wants out, IMHO and why I believe Jackie O. It's the same reason Ray Allen wanted out.. Once you get a taste of the glory - its hard to go back to the down year. Rondo has only played for two bad teams now.. He is not used to it.

Why trade now? Because as you get closer till the time he has to resign your return will shrink..

What legitimately competitive team wants Rondo? The Heat? Rockets? Hornets?

I honestly can't think of one team that would want Rondo that actually has a shot at winning it all (maybe Houston). If he leaves, it will be for other reasons, not because he thinks the Knicks, Lakers, Pacers, Mavs, etc actually give him a significantly better shot at a finals appearance. Rondo is intelligent and knows who is actually competitive.

Not disputing rumors that he may want out, I just don't think he's a ring chaser like Ray. That's an off comparison