#BringBacktheBiz - The Bismack Biyombo Thread

GoBobs · Post #1241 » by **GoBobs** » Sat Aug 30, 2014 1:38 pm

BobsBuddy wrote::nonono: Biz will be a restricted FA after this season. Unless he shows tremendous improvement, we will get nothing for drafting him #7. He is a good rim protector "sometimes" and an Athletic freak,but he was that when we drafted him. He's better suited for a team like Phoenix..TRADE HIM for a SF and then use Vonleh at center for some minutes. OR better yet solve all our roster holes with 1 trade.

Trade Checker # 6507617 Len and Green from PHX for Neal and BIZ
We get our starting 3 and backup 5. Phx inserts Neal and BIZ into their running offense and still have 3 SF on their roster.

HornetJail · Post #1242 » by **HornetJail** » Sat Aug 30, 2014 2:29 pm

GoBobs wrote:
BobsBuddy wrote::nonono: Biz will be a restricted FA after this season. Unless he shows tremendous improvement, we will get nothing for drafting him #7. He is a good rim protector "sometimes" and an Athletic freak,but he was that when we drafted him. He's better suited for a team like Phoenix..TRADE HIM for a SF and then use Vonleh at center for some minutes. OR better yet solve all our roster holes with 1 trade.

Trade Checker # 6507617 Len and Green from PHX for Neal and BIZ
We get our starting 3 and backup 5. Phx inserts Neal and BIZ into their running offense and still have 3 SF on their roster.

Respect Bismack Biyoda you must.

BobsBuddy · Post #1243 » by **BobsBuddy** » Sat Aug 30, 2014 3:30 pm

OK OK I'm dreamin,but Alex doesn't fit PHX high Octane / Running style and Biz does. And they have 4 SF? It's like us with 5 SG. We have 1 under achieving SF unless you count Hendo/JT who are really SG backups in the NBA? Also for the record,Zellar cannot play center...no lower body strength and very short arms...He's only a stretch 4 who can't make 3s after last seasons performance. And, as for Biz just how long are we going to wait for this prodigy to arrive? Trade BIZ and 1 of the shooting guards for a SF and backup Center before camp.
Trade Checker#6507749 SF Outlaw from NYK for SG Gary Neal.
Trade Checker#6507751 SF Green from Bos for Hendo and Biz 2015 1st
Trade checker #6507752 Sf Barnes, Speights, from GSW for Neal, Biz, 2015 1st

BeesWax · Post #1244 » by **BeesWax** » Sat Aug 30, 2014 5:37 pm

BobsBuddy wrote::o OK OK I'm dreamin,but Alex doesn't fit PHX high Octane / Running style and Biz does. And they have 4 SF? It's like us with 5 SG. We have 1 under achieving SF unless you count Hendo/JT who are really SG backups in the NBA? Also for the record,Zellar cannot play center...no lower body strength and very short arms...He's only a stretch 4 who can't make 3s after last seasons performance. And, as for Biz just how long are we going to wait for this prodigy to arrive? Trade BIZ and 1 of the shooting guards for a SF and backup Center before camp.
Trade Checker#6507749 SF Outlaw from NYK for SG Gary Neal.
Trade Checker#6507751 SF Green from Bos for Hendo and Biz 2015 1st
Trade checker #6507752 Sf Barnes, Speights, from GSW for Neal, Biz, 2015 1st

Every one of those trades is terrible. You said yourself we have no backup center and yet we go no centers from any of these trades. Trading picks for Green or Barnes is crazy. You are trading our only rim protector for backup SF who aren't going to see the court enough and then you have to hunt for a center. Biz is better for our team than any of these guys you are trying to get.

Eoghan · Post #1245 » by **Eoghan** » Sat Aug 30, 2014 7:19 pm

Bismack has arrived, if he played starter's minutes he'd be heralded as one of the best defensive bigs in the NBA. He's just not very good at scoring which at RealGM means he is terrible.

TheKingofSting · Post #1246 » by **TheKingofSting** » Sun Aug 31, 2014 2:07 am

I want no part of Green.

Liver_Pooty · Post #1247 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Sun Aug 31, 2014 2:12 am

BrotherDave wrote:Bismack has arrived, if he played starter's minutes he'd be heralded as one of the best defensive bigs in the NBA. He's just not very good at scoring which at RealGM means he is terrible.

Until he learns how to catch a basketball he hasn't arrived anywhere.

TheKingofSting · Post #1248 » by **TheKingofSting** » Sun Aug 31, 2014 2:23 am

I thought he did a little better with catching last season but still far from where I think he should be.

BobsBuddy · Post #1249 » by **BobsBuddy** » Mon Sep 1, 2014 1:16 pm

Biz's problems are not with his hands .Its his brain. As for the comment about picking up a center, we trade 1 or 2 of our five SG' for a center.
Trade checker 6508199 Henry Sims from Philly for JT (even though listed as a SF JT is a SG)

Eoghan · Post #1250 » by **Eoghan** » Mon Sep 1, 2014 4:30 pm

TheKingofSting · Post #1251 » by **TheKingofSting** » Tue Sep 2, 2014 12:58 am

Biz is going to really surprise some people this season.

Liver_Pooty · Post #1252 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Tue Sep 2, 2014 1:14 am

TheKingofSting wrote:Biz is going to really surprise some people this season.

I still think hes another year or two away.

HornetJail · Post #1253 » by **HornetJail** » Tue Sep 2, 2014 1:17 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:
TheKingofSting wrote:Biz is going to really surprise some people this season.

I still think hes another year or two away.

I think he's a couple years away from being a consistent starter, and that we'd be in some trouble if Big Al walked in 2015. He's arrived as a great defensive talent, but as a complete player, you're right he's a couple years away.

Liver_Pooty · Post #1254 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Tue Sep 2, 2014 1:19 am

BizGilwalker wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:
TheKingofSting wrote:Biz is going to really surprise some people this season.

I still think hes another year or two away.

I think he's a couple years away from being a consistent starter, and that we'd be in some trouble if Big Al walked in 2015. He's arrived as a great defensive talent, but as a complete player, you're right he's a couple years away.

I love his defense. But on a team with someone like MKG who may never be a serious threat on the offensive end he needs to progress big time. Develop a consistent hook shot, anything. I think he'll be alright. He just won't be the dominant insane player we all thought he would be 3 years ago.

BobsBuddy · Post #1255 » by **BobsBuddy** » Tue Sep 2, 2014 11:11 am

The problem is that BIZ hasn't improved in the last 3 years and his minutes have got less and less. FT% is .505,No shot,Sometimes even misses layups. 4 ppg are put backs. Only career stats of any value are rebounds and blocks.Move him now in a package with one of the guards for a starting 3 and/or "Complete" backup center. Otherwise if AL goes down we are screwed. Just because Biz will be a RFA in 2015 doesn't mean we are not going to get more of the same?

Post #1256 » by **yosemiteben** » Tue Sep 2, 2014 12:04 pm

If you think Biz hasn't improved in the past three years then there clearly isn't much point in your continued participation in this discussion. Just look at his per 36 stats, to say nothing of his defense.

TheKingofSting · Post #1257 » by **TheKingofSting** » Wed Sep 3, 2014 2:27 am

I agree, I can't wait until he proves people wrong.

Post #1258 » by **JDR720** » Wed Sep 3, 2014 4:09 am

Bismack is fine, if he started and played 35mpg he would average about 7pts, 12rbs and 2.8 blocks, basically DeAndre Jordan (10/13/2.5 in 35mins last season)

and if he protects the rim as well as he did this past season, he would get some All-NBA defense votes

HornetJail · Post #1259 » by **HornetJail** » Wed Sep 3, 2014 4:15 am

JDR720 wrote:Bismack is fine, if he started and played 35mpg he would average about 7pts, 12rbs and 2.8 blocks, basically DeAndre Jordan (10/13/2.5 in 35mins last season)

and if he protects the rim as well as he did this past season, he would get some All-NBA defense votes

oh god I hope not. Then he'll get an Asik contract from someone

Post #1260 » by **JDR720** » Wed Sep 3, 2014 4:18 am

BizGilwalker wrote:
JDR720 wrote:Bismack is fine, if he started and played 35mpg he would average about 7pts, 12rbs and 2.8 blocks, basically DeAndre Jordan (10/13/2.5 in 35mins last season)

and if he protects the rim as well as he did this past season, he would get some All-NBA defense votes

oh god I hope not. Then he'll get an Asik contract from someone

We can pay him that Asik contract when Al leaves :wink: