Is Lebron an inconsistent Finals performer?

[Wolfy1983]

You got 2007 and 2011. 2012, he was a beast. 2013, he didn't really show up until game 4 when Wade did. Deserving FMVP, but he showed up late in that series. Than you have 2014 which was terrible all around.

What do you guys think?

[KobeBryant24]

That gif doe

[LikeABosh]

2007 - Well, it's just unfortunate that Lebron led that Cavs team to the Finals. They had no business being there outside of Lebron going God mode on Detroit. Yeah, this finals performance was a stinker, but like Kobe in 2004, the poor performance is understandable.

2011 - I know I probably can't say this is worse than 07, but at least with the Cavs he had the right mindset to attack. Lebron really dropped the ball

2012 - He was a beast and outplayed the 2nd best player in the league every game. Out rebounded and out assisted every other player in the series (kind of unheard for a SF)

2013 - It isn't fair to say he didn't show up until game 4. He had 18/18/10 in game 1. Larry Bird won FMVP with numbers way worse than that. Game 2 he lead the charge in the 2nd half that won the game. Game 3 he was aggressive, but he sucked ass anyways. Eventually he adapted to Spurs scheme and it started paying off. His numbers from Game 4 to Game 7 are ~32/7/10 on 48% shooting.

2014 - I don't know how you can say this performance was all around awful. It's probably his best finals performance. His TS% was approaching .700 territory and that's ridiculously good. For example, that's significantly better than Shaq vs the Nets in 02 and Shaq destroyed the Nets in 4 games. Put this Lebron in the 2011 series and it's also a sweep.

[TRG]

This belongs on the Cavs forum.

[Wolfy1983]

This belongs on the Cavs forum.

4 of his 5 appearances were in a Heat uniform. This topic belongs here.

[Wolfy1983]

2007 - Well, it's just unfortunate that Lebron led that Cavs team to the Finals. They had no business being there outside of Lebron going God mode on Detroit. Yeah, this finals performance was a stinker, but like Kobe in 2004, the poor performance is understandable.

2011 - I know I probably can't say this is worse than 07, but at least with the Cavs he had the right mindset to attack. Lebron really dropped the ball

2012 - He was a beast and outplayed the 2nd best player in the league every game. Out rebounded and out assisted every other player in the series (kind of unheard for a SF)

2013 - It isn't fair to say he didn't show up until game 4. He had 18/18/10 in game 1. Larry Bird won FMVP with numbers way worse than that. Game 2 he lead the charge in the 2nd half that won the game. Game 3 he was aggressive, but he sucked ass anyways. Eventually he adapted to Spurs scheme and it started paying off. His numbers from Game 4 to Game 7 are ~32/7/10 on 48% shooting.

2014 - I don't know how you can say this performance was all around awful. It's probably his best finals performance. His TS% was approaching .700 territory and that's ridiculously good. For example, that's significantly better than Shaq vs the Nets in 02 and Shaq destroyed the Nets in 4 games. Put this Lebron in the 2011 series and it's also a sweep.

I guess I'll give Lebron a pass on 2014, even though it appeared like a threw in the towel in game 3-5. Game 1 I admit we would have won if not for his cramp troubles. 2013, I will still stand by my argument that he was inconsistent until game 4. Game 2, he played a role, but it was also a team effort that lead the way to a blowout. Game 4, the team excelled by Wade's resurgence. Lebron pretty much tacked on points after the game was out of reach for the Spurs. Only time I saw Lebron in beast mode was in games 6 and 7.

[LikeABosh]

I guess I'll give Lebron a pass on 2014, even though it appeared like a threw in the towel in game 3-5. Game 1 I admit we would have won if not for his cramp troubles. 2013, I will still stand by my argument that he was inconsistent until game 4. Game 2, he played a role, but it was also a team effort that lead the way to a blowout. Game 4, the team excelled by Wade's resurgence. Lebron pretty much tacked on points after the game was out of reach for the Spurs. Only time I saw Lebron in beast mode was in games 6 and 7.

I agree. He was definitely inconsistent for the start of that series. We wouldn't have won if he hadn't stepped up his game

[dr3am]

I agree with majority of what LikeABosh said...To the OP how can you say LeBron had a terrible 2014 Finals? Did you even look at his numbers statistically this past Finals? He was a beast. Easily his best numbers statistically in the Finals

I dislike LeBron but he was really the only positive thing that I could reflect on when it comes to this past Finals against the Spurs

[Myam333]

I remember I argued with someone here before last season about how we need homecourt and he kept saying we didn't need it because we're that good. Our ****ing AC would have been working for game 1...uuggghhh

[NBADraft2003]

2007 - Well, it's just unfortunate that Lebron led that Cavs team to the Finals. They had no business being there outside of Lebron going God mode on Detroit. Yeah, this finals performance was a stinker, but like Kobe in 2004, the poor performance is understandable.

2011 - I know I probably can't say this is worse than 07, but at least with the Cavs he had the right mindset to attack. Lebron really dropped the ball

2012 - He was a beast and outplayed the 2nd best player in the league every game. Out rebounded and out assisted every other player in the series (kind of unheard for a SF)

2013 - It isn't fair to say he didn't show up until game 4. He had 18/18/10 in game 1. Larry Bird won FMVP with numbers way worse than that. Game 2 he lead the charge in the 2nd half that won the game. Game 3 he was aggressive, but he sucked ass anyways. Eventually he adapted to Spurs scheme and it started paying off. His numbers from Game 4 to Game 7 are ~32/7/10 on 48% shooting.

2014 - I don't know how you can say this performance was all around awful. It's probably his best finals performance. His TS% was approaching .700 territory and that's ridiculously good. For example, that's significantly better than Shaq vs the Nets in 02 and Shaq destroyed the Nets in 4 games. Put this Lebron in the 2011 series and it's also a sweep.

I guess I'll give Lebron a pass on 2014, even though it appeared like a threw in the towel in game 3-5. Game 1 I admit we would have won if not for his cramp troubles. 2013, I will still stand by my argument that he was inconsistent until game 4. Game 2, he played a role, but it was also a team effort that lead the way to a blowout. Game 4, the team excelled by Wade's resurgence. Lebron pretty much tacked on points after the game was out of reach for the Spurs. Only time I saw Lebron in beast mode was in games 6 and 7.

Bull****.

Game 4 was my favorite game of the Big 3 era. Dwyane, LeBron, and Chris had a terrific game. The team excelled by working together as a unit on both ends of the floor. At 4:43 in the 4th quarter, it was 87-100 with the shot clock going down and at that point he had 24. His last 9 points came off jumpers late in the shot clock, he had to take those jumpers. He sat out that stretch where Wade was aggressive to keep him going. All three of them deserved to be player of the game that night.

This year, I wish Spo made some adjustments and guys started caring. All of them were atrocious in the Finals on both ends. Wish we would've gotten that 3-Peat, should've won in '11 though.

[RJM]

In 2007, LeBron's jumper was still inconsistent and the Spurs exploited that. With LeBron virtually neutralized, eliminating his pathetic supporting cast would be slight work for a Western Conference monster like the Spurs.

In 2011, we all know what happened. LeBron's head was messed up and he vanished, no question about it.

In 2012, reinvigorated after getting back to basics, a determined LeBron shrugged off 2011's failure and shined.

In 2013, he met the Spurs again and many of their '07 tactics worked for a while (behind unbelievable shooting by Danny Green and Gary Neal) before he lost his headband and went haywire.

In 2014, LeBron brought the pain but it wasn't enough. His supporting cast was nowhere to be found.

Inconsistent? Not so much. I wouldn't say that. There were many different variables at play in each series.

[KobeBryant24]

He got most of his points after being blown out (2014)

[PaulieWal]

He has had two bad series: 07 and 11. The rest have varied from great to inconsistent.

07 he went out guns blazing shooting 22 FGA/game but the Spurs toyed with the Cavs and was one of the best title winning Spurs team with end of prime Duncan and prime Manu and TP. LeBron wasn't in his prime yet and was the leader of that team.

11 we all know what happened or rather don't know but LeBron went into some sort of weird funk.

[Sc0pe92]

I agree with majority of what LikeABosh said...To the OP how can you say LeBron had a terrible 2014 Finals? Did you even look at his numbers statistically this past Finals? He was a beast. Easily his best numbers statistically in the Finals

I dislike LeBron but he was really the only positive thing that I could reflect on when it comes to this past Finals against the Spurs

You dislike lebron now? lol

[Wolfy1983]

2007 - Well, it's just unfortunate that Lebron led that Cavs team to the Finals. They had no business being there outside of Lebron going God mode on Detroit. Yeah, this finals performance was a stinker, but like Kobe in 2004, the poor performance is understandable.

2011 - I know I probably can't say this is worse than 07, but at least with the Cavs he had the right mindset to attack. Lebron really dropped the ball

2012 - He was a beast and outplayed the 2nd best player in the league every game. Out rebounded and out assisted every other player in the series (kind of unheard for a SF)

2013 - It isn't fair to say he didn't show up until game 4. He had 18/18/10 in game 1. Larry Bird won FMVP with numbers way worse than that. Game 2 he lead the charge in the 2nd half that won the game. Game 3 he was aggressive, but he sucked ass anyways. Eventually he adapted to Spurs scheme and it started paying off. His numbers from Game 4 to Game 7 are ~32/7/10 on 48% shooting.

2014 - I don't know how you can say this performance was all around awful. It's probably his best finals performance. His TS% was approaching .700 territory and that's ridiculously good. For example, that's significantly better than Shaq vs the Nets in 02 and Shaq destroyed the Nets in 4 games. Put this Lebron in the 2011 series and it's also a sweep.

I guess I'll give Lebron a pass on 2014, even though it appeared like a threw in the towel in game 3-5. Game 1 I admit we would have won if not for his cramp troubles. 2013, I will still stand by my argument that he was inconsistent until game 4. Game 2, he played a role, but it was also a team effort that lead the way to a blowout. Game 4, the team excelled by Wade's resurgence. Lebron pretty much tacked on points after the game was out of reach for the Spurs. Only time I saw Lebron in beast mode was in games 6 and 7.

Bull****.

Game 4 was my favorite game of the Big 3 era. Dwyane, LeBron, and Chris had a terrific game. The team excelled by working together as a unit on both ends of the floor. At 4:43 in the 4th quarter, it was 87-100 with the shot clock going down and at that point he had 24. His last 9 points came off jumpers late in the shot clock, he had to take those jumpers. He sat out that stretch where Wade was aggressive to keep him going. All three of them deserved to be player of the game that night.

This year, I wish Spo made some adjustments and guys started caring. All of them were atrocious in the Finals on both ends. Wish we would've gotten that 3-Peat, should've won in '11 though.

Bull**** back.

Wade was the guy who carried them to that win. You can throw out how many points he had at some point, Wade was the MVP of that game. Both Bosh and Lebron played really well but which player had the most impact out of the 3? Like I said, games 6&7 is when Lebron went into beast mode and i'm glad he did.

[NBADraft2003]

I guess I'll give Lebron a pass on 2014, even though it appeared like a threw in the towel in game 3-5. Game 1 I admit we would have won if not for his cramp troubles. 2013, I will still stand by my argument that he was inconsistent until game 4. Game 2, he played a role, but it was also a team effort that lead the way to a blowout. Game 4, the team excelled by Wade's resurgence. Lebron pretty much tacked on points after the game was out of reach for the Spurs. Only time I saw Lebron in beast mode was in games 6 and 7.

Bull****.

Game 4 was my favorite game of the Big 3 era. Dwyane, LeBron, and Chris had a terrific game. The team excelled by working together as a unit on both ends of the floor. At 4:43 in the 4th quarter, it was 87-100 with the shot clock going down and at that point he had 24. His last 9 points came off jumpers late in the shot clock, he had to take those jumpers. He sat out that stretch where Wade was aggressive to keep him going. All three of them deserved to be player of the game that night.

This year, I wish Spo made some adjustments and guys started caring. All of them were atrocious in the Finals on both ends. Wish we would've gotten that 3-Peat, should've won in '11 though.

Bull**** back.

Wade was the guy who carried them to that win. You can throw out how many points he had at some point, Wade was the MVP of that game. Both Bosh and Lebron played really well but which player had the most impact out of the 3? Like I said, games 6&7 is when Lebron went into beast mode and i'm glad he did.

Sure, whatever helps you sleep at night. Who had the most impact out of the 3? They all had equal impact, Wade was riding the hot hand in the 3rd quarter, glad Spo didn't disrupt the rhythm he was in. Wade didn't carry anybody, the team earned that win.

[Wolfy1983]

Bull****.

Game 4 was my favorite game of the Big 3 era. Dwyane, LeBron, and Chris had a terrific game. The team excelled by working together as a unit on both ends of the floor. At 4:43 in the 4th quarter, it was 87-100 with the shot clock going down and at that point he had 24. His last 9 points came off jumpers late in the shot clock, he had to take those jumpers. He sat out that stretch where Wade was aggressive to keep him going. All three of them deserved to be player of the game that night.

This year, I wish Spo made some adjustments and guys started caring. All of them were atrocious in the Finals on both ends. Wish we would've gotten that 3-Peat, should've won in '11 though.

Bull**** back.

Wade was the guy who carried them to that win. You can throw out how many points he had at some point, Wade was the MVP of that game. Both Bosh and Lebron played really well but which player had the most impact out of the 3? Like I said, games 6&7 is when Lebron went into beast mode and i'm glad he did.

Sure, whatever helps you sleep at night. Who had the most impact out of the 3? They all had equal impact, Wade was riding the hot hand in the 3rd quarter, glad Spo didn't disrupt the rhythm he was in. Wade didn't carry anybody, the team earned that win.

You can't even give the guy credit for 1 game? Lebron was the FMVP and yes in terms of the whole series, he was the most impactful out of the 3, but he wasn't his true superstar self until game 6.

[NBADraft2003]

Bull**** back.

Wade was the guy who carried them to that win. You can throw out how many points he had at some point, Wade was the MVP of that game. Both Bosh and Lebron played really well but which player had the most impact out of the 3? Like I said, games 6&7 is when Lebron went into beast mode and i'm glad he did.

Sure, whatever helps you sleep at night. Who had the most impact out of the 3? They all had equal impact, Wade was riding the hot hand in the 3rd quarter, glad Spo didn't disrupt the rhythm he was in. Wade didn't carry anybody, the team earned that win.

You can't even give the guy credit for 1 game? Lebron was the FMVP and yes in terms of the whole series, he was the most impactful out of the 3, but he wasn't his true superstar self until game 6.

What are you talking about? I gave him credit, you're making it seem as if he was the only one doing something that night. We probably wouldn't have won that game without Wade playing like that but we still ha two other superstars playing at a high level.

[Jipluralx]

Sure, whatever helps you sleep at night. Who had the most impact out of the 3? They all had equal impact, Wade was riding the hot hand in the 3rd quarter, glad Spo didn't disrupt the rhythm he was in. Wade didn't carry anybody, the team earned that win.

You can't even give the guy credit for 1 game? Lebron was the FMVP and yes in terms of the whole series, he was the most impactful out of the 3, but he wasn't his true superstar self until game 6.

What are you talking about? I gave him credit, you're making it seem as if he was the only one doing something that night. We probably wouldn't have won that game without Wade playing like that but we still ha two other superstars playing at a high level.

Don't argue with him.
It's obvious digg211 is a LeBron hater.

Saying 2014 was "terrible all around", when he was the only Heat player, who actually performed in the finals...

[Wolfy1983]

What are you talking about? I gave him credit, you're making it seem as if he was the only one doing something that night. We probably wouldn't have won that game without Wade playing like that but we still ha two other superstars playing at a high level.

I said he was the MVP of that game. Is that difficult to comprehend?. Lebron played well but after the game was in hand is when he started to pad his stats and that's what you're going by.

Don't argue with him.
It's obvious digg211 is a LeBron hater.

Saying 2014 was "terrible all around", when he was the only Heat player, who actually performed in the finals...

I'm not a hater but i'm not infatuated like the rest of you are. As for 2014, when I said awful, I was talking about the entire team, not just him and lets not act like his 2014 finals performance can be compared to his heroics in the final 2 games of 2013. Lebrons started great in games 3-5, but disappeared in the 2nd half and he was God awful like the rest of the team on the defensive end. He's inconsistent. You can't rely on the guy to tear it up every game. 2012 is the exception.