OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread II

[JDR720]

MKG has been going around to schools today

[fatlever]

of course this is where i expect numerous people to tell me that its the coaches fault that MKG lacks confidence in his jumper because they have made him feel like he shouldnt touch the ball and they dont play him in the 4th. to that, i say, hogwash. MKG needs to make the coaches change their mind. thats on him.

[BeesWax]

It is possible MKG can improve his shot. It will be VERY HARD for him to do because its hard to break habits but it's possible.

Danny Green was not the shooter he is now in UNC. Now he is arguably the best 3 point shooter in the league. His form was always good tho but he still improved

Green won the McDonalds all american game 3pt contest.

Remember MKGs really bad habits aren't that old. His shot was not near this bad at Kentucky. It was that first coaching staff that really got him backwards.

I am a DIE-HARD UNC fan, I don't think I have EVER missed a game. He was a good shooter at UNC but in the NBA he is a super threat. When he would take shots at UNC it didn't seem automatic to me as it does in San Antonio.

Yeah that is weird about MKG actually getting a worse shot since being here lol. I hope he improves but not sure since he practiced alot last year with not that much improvement

37% and 41% his last two years were nothing to scoff at.

Where I think some of the difference lies is the type of offense. He used to shoot a number of threes off the secondary break at UNC which I would think had lower percentages than when he was in the half court on a set shot. He is amazing if he is squared and set like he mostly is in S.A. He was very good set at UNC but they also played uptempo more than the Spurs which I think influences the thought on his shooting.

[BeesWax]

of course this is where i expect numerous people to tell me that its the coaches fault that MKG lacks confidence in his jumper because they have made him feel like he shouldnt touch the ball and they dont play him in the 4th. to that, i say, hogwash. MKG needs to make the coaches change their mind. thats on him.

I think there are three reasons. We had two wings who could do very little effectively on offense. He just doesn't assert himself enough. The coaches stuck him in the corner on offense and ignored him.

Being pinned on the baseline when all you can do is drive to the basket limits your effectiveness right away. The coaches need to get more creative and he needs to prove they should let him participate. Saying it is solely on him is hog wash because he showed what he was capable of in spurts all season but they lack of creativity on offense left him wanting. I would put the blame around 50/50. He has shown enough but needs to show more and the coaches need to think on the offensive end open it up.

[EwingSweatsALot]

its not just MKGs awful form that is holding him back on offense. part of the problem is his mentality. MKG has to want to dominate his opponent on offense the same way he wants to dominate them on defense. too many times MKG defers, stands in the corner, gives the ball up rather than attacking a weak defender, doesn't look to post up when he has a smaller player covering him. that mentality needs fixing as much as his jumper needs fixing. if he cant gain more confidence in his offense, then an improved jumper will only go so far.

Maybe they aren't separate matters. Possibly they are more of a cause and an effect. The cause is the poor jumper and the effect is the mentality that he can't do anything on offense besides trash buckets. It doesn't make it any better, but I'd like to believe a better jumper, would lead to more confidence in his offensive game instead of them being separate to his potential as an offensive player.

Better jumper = more confidence = less standing around = more attacking = more buckets = better spacing.

So I hope.

[fatlever]

[fatlever]

forget watching film of iggy. mkg should watch film of faried. faried has been dominating the team usa stuff and he is doing it mostly with just pure energy.

[Liver_Pooty]

forget watching film of iggy. mkg should watch film of faried. faried has been dominating the team usa stuff and he is doing it mostly with just pure energy.

Hes been the MVP of the entire tournament thus far, in my opinion. Freaking beast mode.

[JDR720]

MKG and Faried are about the same size

MKG 6-7 232 7ft wingspan

Faried- 6-8 228 7ft wingspan

Faried has about a 4 inch advantage on standing reach tho

MKG the PF that can guard PG's

[HornetJail]

I'm hoping Marvin Williams plays the role of the 3 on offense and the 4 on defense that way MKG doesn't have to shoot and handle, he can play off the ball and make cuts to the basket. Why that wasn't the case with McBob at the 4 is beyond me though.

[BeesWax]

MKG and Faried are about the same size

MKG 6-7 232 7ft wingspan

Faried- 6-8 228 7ft wingspan

Faried has about a 4 inch advantage on standing reach tho

MKG the PF that can guard PG's

I would be curious to get MKG's measurements now. Remember that Faried was a senior when he came out and MKG was a young freshman. I bet MKG is taller now and maybe slightly longer than he was when we took him. A lot of times guys grow into their early 20s. I know I grew a couple inches after my freshman year and before I was out of school.

[yosemiteben]

Yeah, Faried is 4 years older than MKG. MKG is going to be such a beast when he hits his prime.

[Liver_Pooty]

http://www.csnne.com/boston-celtics/bla ... out-season

5. Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, Charlotte

2013-2014 stats: 7.2 ppg, 5.2 rpg, 0.8 apg. Shot 47.3 percent from the field, 11.1 percent on 3s.

Kidd-Gilchrist was arguably the best high school player in the class of 2011, and cemented himself as an elite prospect during his lone season at Kentucky (which ended with a national championship). A couple of months after cutting down the nets with the Wildcats, Kidd-Gilchrist was selected with the No. 2 overall pick in the NBA draft.

It's far too soon to consider him a bust, but Kidd-Gilchrist -- still only 20 -- isn't at a level of play many anticipated he'd have reached by this point.

While some might believe the addition of Lance Stephenson to the Hornets will hurt Kidd-Gilchrist's growth, look for just the opposite to happen. Stephenson is a terror for defenses in transition with his playmaking skills, and Kidd-Gilchrist should be one of those who benefits the most.

Kidd-Gilchrist is an extremely tough cover in transition because of his size, speed and strength. Look for Stephenson and the Hornets to do a better job of taking advantage of those opportunities.

[LofJ]

Clifford has already come out and said that we're going to do more in transition this year, so they're right on the money.

[fatlever]

http://www.atthehive.com/2014/9/7/61115 ... -gilchrist

pretty good article about MKG - says that perhaps instead of relying on fixing his jumper to be relevant on offense, that he could instead improve his creative skills.

[LofJ]

http://www.atthehive.com/2014/9/7/6111531/looking-at-the-past-present-and-future-of-michael-kidd-gilchrist

pretty good article about MKG - says that perhaps instead of relying on fixing his jumper to be relevant on offense, that he could instead improve his creative skills.

So according to advanced defensive metrics MKG is anywhere from the 8th to 2nd best defender at Small Forward in the league. I'm glad to know that there are statistics out there now that show what most of us see when we compare how we look as a team with him as opposed to without him. He's only going to get better too, at all facets of the game. But like that article said he needs to show confidence in his shot, regardless of his percentages. I hope Clifford will allow him to do that, he needs to have the confidence to shoot during the game and the coaches should be pushing him to do it.

[ball teacher]

http://www.atthehive.com/2014/9/7/6111531/looking-at-the-past-present-and-future-of-michael-kidd-gilchrist

pretty good article about MKG - says that perhaps instead of relying on fixing his jumper to be relevant on offense, that he could instead improve his creative skills.

Ive been saying this all last season. Cliff wasn't nearly creative enough with our talented 2nd overall pick. Cliff focused on one aspect of MKG's game that has never been his strong point, and he used that against MKG by benching him late and giving good minutes MKG could've used to anybody who could shoot a jumper better than him. MKG should've gotten 30 minutes per game and 10 shots per, 15 ppg and 8 rebounds is very achievable for MKG as he could've gotten that last year had we played him more and gave him a role offensively that suits his game.

[HornetJail]

http://www.atthehive.com/2014/9/7/6111531/looking-at-the-past-present-and-future-of-michael-kidd-gilchrist

pretty good article about MKG - says that perhaps instead of relying on fixing his jumper to be relevant on offense, that he could instead improve his creative skills.

Ive been saying this all last season. Cliff wasn't nearly creative enough with our talented 2nd overall pick. Cliff focused on one aspect of MKG's game that has never been his strong point, and he used that against MKG by benching him late and giving good minutes MKG could've used to anybody who could shoot a jumper better than him. MKG should've gotten 30 minutes per game and 10 shots per, 15 ppg and 8 rebounds is very achievable for MKG as he could've gotten that last year had we played him more and gave him a role offensively that suits his game.

I think that was a product of Clifford's bare bones approach to last season's game plans. MKG and even guys like Bismack, McBob, Henderson, etc should have been making a lot more cuts to the basket, utilizing Al's improving ability to pass from the post (say what you want but he's not bad at it now). Hopefully this season is different and we see plays that are designed to see "the other scorers" get some points on cuts to the rim. MKG should be very good at this, Bismack should assuming his offensive awareness and hands get better, and Zeller and Vonleh should be in on this as well. Lance was very good at passing out of drives and from the perimeter to players cutting to the rim in Indiana (particularly George and West), and I'm hoping that this translates here. We have an athletic bunch- MKG and Biz should become good at backdoor cuts and a few other off-ball moves for when Lance and Kemba find them and if Al needs to find a pass out of the post. That's how you get around limited floor spacing. Our lineup doesn't have a lot of spacing, so we need to get clever with freeing guys up for points around the rim. Al can't be our only source of baskets inside, and we can't have our top 3 players scoring all our points. MKG needs to get involved and we know he's capable.

[HornetJail]

Anyone think he'll average 13/8 next season?

[Liver_Pooty]

Anyone think he'll average 13/8 next season?

Ill go with 11/6.5


But will looked improved on the offensive end. Not crazy improved like some might think he will. Baby steps.