Offseason Thread 6: The Not So Mexican Stand-off Continues

[JTrain]

This is so confusing. Do people really think Bledsoe likes it here? Is Lebron's post a red herring? Very hard to figure out.

[BurningHeart]

Dragic. What a beaut. That story about him wanting to re-sign made my day.

[Christine-In-AZ]

Listening to NBA radio this morning and Adrian Woj was on. Nothing really new but he was bringing up points on why it doesn't make sense for EB to take the QO. He thinks PHX and Bledsoe will talk before he would actually take the QO and negotiate.
Sai something like, 'Paul wouldn't be doing his job if he just accepted Phoenix' offer or signed the QO'.

Not so sure Paul knows how to do the job. Also not so sure who Paul is taking marching orders from (LBJ or Bledsoe).

Mark Termini

[JDLAW]

Listening to NBA radio this morning and Adrian Woj was on. Nothing really new but he was bringing up points on why it doesn't make sense for EB to take the QO. He thinks PHX and Bledsoe will talk before he would actually take the QO and negotiate.
Sai something like, 'Paul wouldn't be doing his job if he just accepted Phoenix' offer or signed the QO'.

Not so sure Paul knows how to do the job. Also not so sure who Paul is taking marching orders from (LBJ or Bledsoe).

Mark Termini

What about him? He is a lawyer/agent who has been engaged by Klutch to help with actual contract and overseas prospects. He is not calling the shots here.

[Christine-In-AZ]

Not so sure Paul knows how to do the job. Also not so sure who Paul is taking marching orders from (LBJ or Bledsoe).

Mark Termini

What about him? He is a lawyer/agent who has been engaged by Klutch to help with actual contract and overseas prospects. He is not calling the shots here.

Just guessing that he's the mastermind behind Paul's strategy.

EDIT:
“There is no rookie extension with Eric but that doesn’t in any way suggest that we are not excited that Eric is a Sun and we look forward to Eric being a Suns for a long time,” said Suns President of Basketball Operations Lon Babby, who has been engaged in extension talks over the past month with Mark Termini, the former agent who works as a negotiator for Bledsoe’s agent, Rich Paul.

“It’s a hard thing to do. We had numerous conversations over the past few weeks. We had a good, professional exchange of ideas.”
http://www.azcentral.com/sports/suns/ar ... edsoe.html

[JDLAW]

Mark Termini

What about him? He is a lawyer/agent who has been engaged by Klutch to help with actual contract and overseas prospects. He is not calling the shots here.

Just guessing that he's the mastermind behind Paul's strategy.

EDIT:
“There is no rookie extension with Eric but that doesn’t in any way suggest that we are not excited that Eric is a Sun and we look forward to Eric being a Suns for a long time,” said Suns President of Basketball Operations Lon Babby, who has been engaged in extension talks over the past month with Mark Termini, the former agent who works as a negotiator for Bledsoe’s agent, Rich Paul.


“It’s a hard thing to do. We had numerous conversations over the past few weeks. We had a good, professional exchange of ideas.”
http://www.azcentral.com/sports/suns/ar ... edsoe.html

Termini has not much of an agent for years. I assume that you are using the term "mastermind" with tongue planted firmly in cheek.

So Termini has been given the task of working out the details because Paul cannot handle them.

On a second note, isn't this odd? I thought according to Paul's mouthpiece there has not been discussions for 6 months. What kind on nonsense is going on?

EDIT - Its old news from 2013. Disregard!

[Miklo]

Dragic. What a beaut. That story about him wanting to re-sign made my day.

Yeah, I've been feeling a little pissy about this whole Bledsoe situation - ready for us to just get rid of him at this point. Dragic cheered me up! If he can keep up the good work I hope we pay whatever it takes to keep him.

[Kerrsed]

Zoran Dragic In Talks With Heat, Spurs, Mavericks, Magic
Sep 09, 2014 5:23 PM EDT

Behind a resurgent desire to pursue the NBA culminating in a successful World Cup showing, Slovenian shooting guard Zoran Dragic has maintained discussions with the four teams interested in signing him for next season: the Miami Heat, Orlando Magic, San Antonio Spurs and Dallas Mavericks, league sources told RealGM.

Dragic, the younger brother of Goran Dragic, had 16 points and six rebounds in 27 minutes against the United States national team on Tuesday. He has informed teams of the Oct. 5 buyout deadline in the language of his contract with Unicaja Malaga of the European League, a source told RealGM.

Dragic, a 6-foot-6 shooting guard, has received NBA interest in past summers, and he played for the Houston Rockets’ summer league team in 2012. Several NBA organizations have scouted him throughout the World Cup, sources said, and several new teams inquire per day.

In his second year with Unicaja Malaga last season, Dragic averaged 10.6 points and 2.8 rebounds over 50 games.

[Jdiddy701]

I would lose it all if Spurs get him.

[Christine-In-AZ]

What about him? He is a lawyer/agent who has been engaged by Klutch to help with actual contract and overseas prospects. He is not calling the shots here.

Just guessing that he's the mastermind behind Paul's strategy.

EDIT:
“There is no rookie extension with Eric but that doesn’t in any way suggest that we are not excited that Eric is a Sun and we look forward to Eric being a Suns for a long time,” said Suns President of Basketball Operations Lon Babby, who has been engaged in extension talks over the past month with Mark Termini, the former agent who works as a negotiator for Bledsoe’s agent, Rich Paul.


“It’s a hard thing to do. We had numerous conversations over the past few weeks. We had a good, professional exchange of ideas.”
http://www.azcentral.com/sports/suns/ar ... edsoe.html

Termini has not much of an agent for years. I assume that you are using the term "mastermind" with tongue planted firmly in cheek.

So Termini has been given the task of working out the details because Paul cannot handle them.

On a second note, isn't this odd? I thought according to Paul's mouthpiece there has not been discussions for 6 months. What kind on nonsense is going on?

EDIT - Its old news from 2013. Disregard!

Sorry, I really shoulda put a date for that article citing -October 1013.

[Maystack]

****, of course the Spurs want him. And I bet they'd make him into an All-Star god damn it.

[JDLAW]

Just guessing that he's the mastermind behind Paul's strategy.

EDIT:
“There is no rookie extension with Eric but that doesn’t in any way suggest that we are not excited that Eric is a Sun and we look forward to Eric being a Suns for a long time,” said Suns President of Basketball Operations Lon Babby, who has been engaged in extension talks over the past month with Mark Termini, the former agent who works as a negotiator for Bledsoe’s agent, Rich Paul.


“It’s a hard thing to do. We had numerous conversations over the past few weeks. We had a good, professional exchange of ideas.”
http://www.azcentral.com/sports/suns/ar ... edsoe.html

Termini has not much of an agent for years. I assume that you are using the term "mastermind" with tongue planted firmly in cheek.

So Termini has been given the task of working out the details because Paul cannot handle them.

On a second note, isn't this odd? I thought according to Paul's mouthpiece there has not been discussions for 6 months. What kind on nonsense is going on?

EDIT - Its old news from 2013. Disregard!

Sorry, I really shoulda put a date for that article citing -October 1013.

No problem! I should have looked closer before writing a comment. It'd be interesting to know how much he is involved in this one.

[JDLAW]

Zoran Dragic In Talks With Heat, Spurs, Mavericks, Magic
Sep 09, 2014 5:23 PM EDT

Behind a resurgent desire to pursue the NBA culminating in a successful World Cup showing, Slovenian shooting guard Zoran Dragic has maintained discussions with the four teams interested in signing him for next season: the Miami Heat, Orlando Magic, San Antonio Spurs and Dallas Mavericks, league sources told RealGM.

Dragic, the younger brother of Goran Dragic, had 16 points and six rebounds in 27 minutes against the United States national team on Tuesday. He has informed teams of the Oct. 5 buyout deadline in the language of his contract with Unicaja Malaga of the European League, a source told RealGM.

Dragic, a 6-foot-6 shooting guard, has received NBA interest in past summers, and he played for the Houston Rockets’ summer league team in 2012. Several NBA organizations have scouted him throughout the World Cup, sources said, and several new teams inquire per day.

In his second year with Unicaja Malaga last season, Dragic averaged 10.6 points and 2.8 rebounds over 50 games.

Interesting group of teams - especially since it appears only Orlando is not capped out and the only one of the four that could pay a portion of the buyout and give him enough salary to pay the other portion when signing him.

[BurningHeart]

So the Spurs are gonna get him, he's gonna turn into a star, and Dragic will leave us in a few years to join him? That's how it works, right?



......Goran better be in Zoran's ear saying, "Hey look, you saw what I did when I violated the Spurs. You wann abe on the receiving end of that ****? **** the Spurs. Don't go there or I'll beat your ass, kid."

[eagle13]

Howdy Suns fans - What do you think? Would you accept a trade of David Lee for Bledsoe?

The question is, why would GS max out bledsoe?? Their guard tandem is set and theyre going to need to break the bank in a few years to keep Curry and Klay. The Bledsoe problem isnt a trade problem, it's a salary demand problem.

I agree, I don't see why GS does that trade. Pay Bledsoe more than Curry? But why?

It might have made sense if they had traded Klay for Love, and somehow retained Lee.

Because its part of a 3 way. Most GS fans responded positively to Bucks swapping Ersan & Zaza & the Clips 2017-1st we have for David Lee and our choice of Nedovic or Kuzmic - so if you take Lee for Bledsoe - its done (by us anyway). You can also have Nedovic or Kuzmic if you want. So do we have a deal?

[Saberestar]

Zoran Dragic In Talks With Heat, Spurs, Mavericks, Magic
Sep 09, 2014 5:23 PM EDT

Behind a resurgent desire to pursue the NBA culminating in a successful World Cup showing, Slovenian shooting guard Zoran Dragic has maintained discussions with the four teams interested in signing him for next season: the Miami Heat, Orlando Magic, San Antonio Spurs and Dallas Mavericks, league sources told RealGM.

Dragic, the younger brother of Goran Dragic, had 16 points and six rebounds in 27 minutes against the United States national team on Tuesday. He has informed teams of the Oct. 5 buyout deadline in the language of his contract with Unicaja Malaga of the European League, a source told RealGM.

Dragic, a 6-foot-6 shooting guard, has received NBA interest in past summers, and he played for the Houston Rockets’ summer league team in 2012. Several NBA organizations have scouted him throughout the World Cup, sources said, and several new teams inquire per day.

In his second year with Unicaja Malaga last season, Dragic averaged 10.6 points and 2.8 rebounds over 50 games.

Interesting group of teams - especially since it appears only Orlando is not capped out and the only one of the four that could pay a portion of the buyout and give him enough salary to pay the other portion when signing him.

I really think that Zoran would be an steal, we have to sign him. He is a late bloomer so he is improving, and right now I do not have enough confidence on Goodwin and Ennis (raw...very raw).
Gerald probably will not play here next year, and Bledsoe...you know....so it would be great if we sign Zoran a cheap but long contrat now so we can have depth for the next few years.$9M/3 years...McDo make it happen.

[Saberestar]

The question is, why would GS max out bledsoe?? Their guard tandem is set and theyre going to need to break the bank in a few years to keep Curry and Klay. The Bledsoe problem isnt a trade problem, it's a salary demand problem.

I agree, I don't see why GS does that trade. Pay Bledsoe more than Curry? But why?

It might have made sense if they had traded Klay for Love, and somehow retained Lee.

Because its part of a 3 way. Most GS fans responded positively to Bucks swapping Ersan & Zaza & the Clips 2017-1st we have for David Lee and our choice of Nedovic or Kuzmic - so if you take Lee for Bledsoe - its done (by us anyway). You can also have Nedovic or Kuzmic if you want. So do we have a deal?

No, I prefer Markieff over Lee, and I think that our FO are very high on him too.

[Saberestar]

There is interest in Zoran. It would be easier to do contractually in a year if they made a move for him.

https://mobile.twitter.com/paulcoro

[JDLAW]

Interesting group of teams - especially since it appears only Orlando is not capped out and the only one of the four that could pay a portion of the buyout and give him enough salary to pay the other portion when signing him.

I really think that Zoran would be an steal, we have to sign him. He is a late bloomer so he is improving, and right now I do not have enough confidence on Goodwin and Ennis (raw...very raw).
Gerald probably will not play here next year, and Bledsoe...you know....so it would be great if we sign Zoran a cheap but long contrat now so we can have depth for the next few years.$9M/3 years...McDo make it happen.

I do not know why you and several others seem to be down on Gerald Green. I agree with Eddie johnson and others, Gerald Green has gotten it and fits perfectly within the Suns system. He is just entering his prime and he is one of the two players on this team that can create his own shot and how own offense. I believe he will have another big year and will be resigned here. I have seen Zoran play and can say that he has a long way to go before he replaces what Green can do. Don't forget, he was the 3rd leading scorer on this team at 16ppg and he is one of the most if not the most athletic player on the team.

[kingstyyyle]

Interesting group of teams - especially since it appears only Orlando is not capped out and the only one of the four that could pay a portion of the buyout and give him enough salary to pay the other portion when signing him.

I really think that Zoran would be an steal, we have to sign him. He is a late bloomer so he is improving, and right now I do not have enough confidence on Goodwin and Ennis (raw...very raw).
Gerald probably will not play here next year, and Bledsoe...you know....so it would be great if we sign Zoran a cheap but long contrat now so we can have depth for the next few years.$9M/3 years...McDo make it happen.

I do not know why you and several others seem to be down on Gerald Green. I agree with Eddie johnson and others, Gerald Green has gotten it and fits perfectly within the Suns system. He is just entering his prime and he is one of the two players on this team that can create his own shot and how own offense. I believe he will have another big year and will be resigned here. I have seen Zoran play and can say that he has a long way to go before he replaces what Green can do. Don't forget, he was the 3rd leading scorer on this team at 16ppg and he is one of the most if not the most athletic player on the team.

He might be the most athletic player in the LEAGUE