OT: The WWE Thread

NY_Comeback · Post #2021 » by **NY_Comeback** » Sat Sep 13, 2014 2:30 am

I was lurking in this around 9 o'clock, needless to say, I'm hook on the card game as well. :lol:

I've already managed a 34-12 record in about 90 minutes. This game is super addictive.

poeman · Post #2022 » by **poeman** » Sat Sep 13, 2014 2:32 am

Bill Pidto wrote:
IMAN5 wrote:The sad thing about NXT is that when you really become a huge fan of someone, they more than likely get called up. It's bittersweet because you want them in the big leagues, but you miss the indie feel. Also sometimes it doesn't work in the big leagues.

It's great to see the members of the SHIELD, the Wyatts and Paige doing big things on the main Roster. Cesaro as well has been hot and cold, hoping he gets his push back because he's very talented.

Then there are the in between guys Rusev, Big E, Adam Rose, Bo Dallas.

Cesaro will be fine. There's only so much room at the top. His time will come eventually.

I think Bo Dallas will eventually be one of the top guys as well. I see him as a cold-hearted heel with a more serious gimmick. Maybe a more clean-cut, business-like look. He has the face for it. I can picture him in a suit with short hair, holding the belt while Triple H and Stephanie gloat about their new corportate champ.

WWE universe knows that Bray and Bo are real life bros

Bill Pidto · Post #2023 » by **Bill Pidto** » Sat Sep 13, 2014 3:59 pm

poeman wrote:
Bill Pidto wrote:
IMAN5 wrote:The sad thing about NXT is that when you really become a huge fan of someone, they more than likely get called up. It's bittersweet because you want them in the big leagues, but you miss the indie feel. Also sometimes it doesn't work in the big leagues.

It's great to see the members of the SHIELD, the Wyatts and Paige doing big things on the main Roster. Cesaro as well has been hot and cold, hoping he gets his push back because he's very talented.

Then there are the in between guys Rusev, Big E, Adam Rose, Bo Dallas.

Cesaro will be fine. There's only so much room at the top. His time will come eventually.

I think Bo Dallas will eventually be one of the top guys as well. I see him as a cold-hearted heel with a more serious gimmick. Maybe a more clean-cut, business-like look. He has the face for it. I can picture him in a suit with short hair, holding the belt while Triple H and Stephanie gloat about their new corportate champ.

WWE universe knows that Bray and Bo are real life bros

That clearly hasn't effected the way they write for either of them.

IMAN5 · Post #2024 » by **IMAN5** » Sun Sep 14, 2014 2:15 am

Bill Pidto wrote:
IMAN5 wrote:The sad thing about NXT is that when you really become a huge fan of someone, they more than likely get called up. It's bittersweet because you want them in the big leagues, but you miss the indie feel. Also sometimes it doesn't work in the big leagues.

It's great to see the members of the SHIELD, the Wyatts and Paige doing big things on the main Roster. Cesaro as well has been hot and cold, hoping he gets his push back because he's very talented.

Then there are the in between guys Rusev, Big E, Adam Rose, Bo Dallas.

Cesaro will be fine. There's only so much room at the top. His time will come eventually.

I think Bo Dallas will eventually be one of the top guys as well. I see him as a cold-hearted heel with a more serious gimmick. Maybe a more clean-cut, business-like look. He has the face for it. I can picture him in a suit with short hair, holding the belt while Triple H and Stephanie gloat about their new corportate champ.

is it just me or does Bo Dallas look out of shape lately. He looks like he needs to shed some weight.

wolfv · Post #2025 » by **wolfv** » Sun Sep 14, 2014 7:04 pm

I was wondering if any of you guys ever saw the Wrestling with Shadows documentary? It's basically about Bret Hart's last few months in the WWE. It was always on tv back then in Canada. It's been very long since I've seen it but I remember it being just an awesome wrestling doc and it really made me think maybe the screw job was all a work because it came out right after that incident. Here's the youtube link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOJcFns1IMA

At that time I was on Bret's side, thinking the WWE screwed him over. But as I got older and learned more about the wrestling business, Bret was in the wrong. When you leave a company for another you have to put the other guy over. HBK was right when he once said Bret Hart was the biggest Hit Man mark

jonny31623 · Post #2026 » by **jonny31623** » Mon Sep 15, 2014 2:41 am

wolfv wrote:I was wondering if any of you guys ever saw the Wrestling with Shadows documentary? It's basically about Bret Hart's last few months in the WWE. It was always on tv back then in Canada. It's been very long since I've seen it but I remember it being just an awesome wrestling doc and it really made me think maybe the screw job was all a work because it came out right after that incident. Here's the youtube link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOJcFns1IMA

At that time I was on Bret's side, thinking the WWE screwed him over. But as I got older and learned more about the wrestling business, Bret was in the wrong. When you leave a company for another you have to put the other guy over. HBK was right when he once said Bret Hart was the biggest Hit Man mark

what do you mean it was a work? it was definately a screw job theres no two ways about it. i saw the documentary. its basically brets last year in wwe. and from what i remember mcmahon told bret he wants out of the 20 yr deal because he cant afford it. and he leaked that bret sold out for the money. so they were definately at odds.

slicedbread2 · Post #2027 » by **slicedbread2** » Mon Sep 15, 2014 7:06 am

wolfv wrote:I was wondering if any of you guys ever saw the Wrestling with Shadows documentary? It's basically about Bret Hart's last few months in the WWE. It was always on tv back then in Canada. It's been very long since I've seen it but I remember it being just an awesome wrestling doc and it really made me think maybe the screw job was all a work because it came out right after that incident. Here's the youtube link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOJcFns1IMA

At that time I was on Bret's side, thinking the WWE screwed him over. But as I got older and learned more about the wrestling business, Bret was in the wrong. When you leave a company for another you have to put the other guy over. HBK was right when he once said Bret Hart was the biggest Hit Man mark

I think the biggest problem there was that Bret was willing to drop the title, but he wanted it to be done in the states rather than in Canada since it may not have gone over too well with the fans, but after the Alundra Blayze incident where she threw the women's title in the trash, McMahon clearly wasn't going to risk that. It's a shame what happened to Bret and then the thing with Owen really sucked, but time heals all wounds. Even McMahon admitted that he was fortunate that WCW was ran by idiots who had no idea how to use Bret. If they used him to half his capabilities, I don't think McMahon is in business.

As for HBK, that dude along with the Kliq and Hogan really played a lot of politics and BS and screwed a lot of people over. I remembered when he had a retirement ceremony, basically very few people came to offer their congrats to him compared to the nature boy Ric Flair. I loved his wrestling ability, but man he was a piece of crap. I remembered how he got Marty Janetty fired after he punched HBK in the face and told McMahon to fire him.

IMAN5 · Post #2028 » by **IMAN5** » Mon Sep 15, 2014 2:05 pm

slicedbread2 wrote:
wolfv wrote:I was wondering if any of you guys ever saw the Wrestling with Shadows documentary? It's basically about Bret Hart's last few months in the WWE. It was always on tv back then in Canada. It's been very long since I've seen it but I remember it being just an awesome wrestling doc and it really made me think maybe the screw job was all a work because it came out right after that incident. Here's the youtube link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOJcFns1IMA

At that time I was on Bret's side, thinking the WWE screwed him over. But as I got older and learned more about the wrestling business, Bret was in the wrong. When you leave a company for another you have to put the other guy over. HBK was right when he once said Bret Hart was the biggest Hit Man mark

I think the biggest problem there was that Bret was willing to drop the title, but he wanted it to be done in the states rather than in Canada since it may not have gone over too well with the fans, but after the Alundra Blayze incident where she threw the women's title in the trash, McMahon clearly wasn't going to risk that. It's a shame what happened to Bret and then the thing with Owen really sucked, but time heals all wounds. Even McMahon admitted that he was fortunate that WCW was ran by idiots who had no idea how to use Bret. If they used him to half his capabilities, I don't think McMahon is in business.

As for HBK, that dude along with the Kliq and Hogan really played a lot of politics and BS and screwed a lot of people over. I remembered when he had a retirement ceremony, basically very few people came to offer their congrats to him compared to the nature boy Ric Flair. I loved his wrestling ability, but man he was a piece of crap. I remembered how he got Marty Janetty fired after he punched HBK in the face and told McMahon to fire him.

The Marty & HBK beef was before my time, can you explain it? All I know is they were a tag team, then I saw the segment where HBK super kicks him during a promo, and then you never really hear of Marty again vs HBK who had a hall of fame career.

jonny31623 · Post #2029 » by **jonny31623** » Mon Sep 15, 2014 2:24 pm

slicedbread2 wrote:
wolfv wrote:I was wondering if any of you guys ever saw the Wrestling with Shadows documentary? It's basically about Bret Hart's last few months in the WWE. It was always on tv back then in Canada. It's been very long since I've seen it but I remember it being just an awesome wrestling doc and it really made me think maybe the screw job was all a work because it came out right after that incident. Here's the youtube link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOJcFns1IMA

At that time I was on Bret's side, thinking the WWE screwed him over. But as I got older and learned more about the wrestling business, Bret was in the wrong. When you leave a company for another you have to put the other guy over. HBK was right when he once said Bret Hart was the biggest Hit Man mark

I think the biggest problem there was that Bret was willing to drop the title, but he wanted it to be done in the states rather than in Canada since it may not have gone over too well with the fans, but after the Alundra Blayze incident where she threw the women's title in the trash, McMahon clearly wasn't going to risk that. It's a shame what happened to Bret and then the thing with Owen really sucked, but time heals all wounds. Even McMahon admitted that he was fortunate that WCW was ran by idiots who had no idea how to use Bret. If they used him to half his capabilities, I don't think McMahon is in business.

As for HBK, that dude along with the Kliq and Hogan really played a lot of politics and BS and screwed a lot of people over. I remembered when he had a retirement ceremony, basically very few people came to offer their congrats to him compared to the nature boy Ric Flair. I loved his wrestling ability, but man he was a piece of crap. I remembered how he got Marty Janetty fired after he punched HBK in the face and told McMahon to fire him.

hbk is a jerk, but that jerk coupled with dx and austin basically saved the wwe. so, hate him or love him, there is no denying his worth to the company.

wolfv · Post #2030 » by **wolfv** » Mon Sep 15, 2014 2:54 pm

jonny31623 wrote:
wolfv wrote:I was wondering if any of you guys ever saw the Wrestling with Shadows documentary? It's basically about Bret Hart's last few months in the WWE. It was always on tv back then in Canada. It's been very long since I've seen it but I remember it being just an awesome wrestling doc and it really made me think maybe the screw job was all a work because it came out right after that incident. Here's the youtube link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOJcFns1IMA

At that time I was on Bret's side, thinking the WWE screwed him over. But as I got older and learned more about the wrestling business, Bret was in the wrong. When you leave a company for another you have to put the other guy over. HBK was right when he once said Bret Hart was the biggest Hit Man mark

what do you mean it was a work? it was definately a screw job theres no two ways about it. i saw the documentary. its basically brets last year in wwe. and from what i remember mcmahon told bret he wants out of the 20 yr deal because he cant afford it. and he leaked that bret sold out for the money. so they were definately at odds.

I just thought it was a pretty big coincidence that this doc came out right after the screw job. What would that doc even have been about if Vince hadn't asked out of that 20 year deal? But even today I don't know what to believe. LEaving the way Bret did left it open for a huge return to the WWE at some point, to get revenge on HBK and Vince for screwing him... but he never went back and was clearly very angry when talking about the WWE in interviews. Of course Owen dieing didn't help either. Who knows how it would have gone if Goldberg hadn't ended his career in WCW

jonny31623 · Post #2031 » by **jonny31623** » Mon Sep 15, 2014 4:30 pm

wolfv wrote:
jonny31623 wrote:
wolfv wrote:I was wondering if any of you guys ever saw the Wrestling with Shadows documentary? It's basically about Bret Hart's last few months in the WWE. It was always on tv back then in Canada. It's been very long since I've seen it but I remember it being just an awesome wrestling doc and it really made me think maybe the screw job was all a work because it came out right after that incident. Here's the youtube link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOJcFns1IMA

At that time I was on Bret's side, thinking the WWE screwed him over. But as I got older and learned more about the wrestling business, Bret was in the wrong. When you leave a company for another you have to put the other guy over. HBK was right when he once said Bret Hart was the biggest Hit Man mark

what do you mean it was a work? it was definately a screw job theres no two ways about it. i saw the documentary. its basically brets last year in wwe. and from what i remember mcmahon told bret he wants out of the 20 yr deal because he cant afford it. and he leaked that bret sold out for the money. so they were definately at odds.

I just thought it was a pretty big coincidence that this doc came out right after the screw job. What would that doc even have been about if Vince hadn't asked out of that 20 year deal? But even today I don't know what to believe. LEaving the way Bret did left it open for a huge return to the WWE at some point, to get revenge on HBK and Vince for screwing him... but he never went back and was clearly very angry when talking about the WWE in interviews. Of course Owen dieing didn't help either. Who knows how it would have gone if Goldberg hadn't ended his career in WCW

if wcw had used him properly, the wwe mightve gone out of business. i definately think bret is a loyal guy. i mean, i remember in the documentary ted offered him a crazy deal and bret said no and opted to stay with vince out of loyalty. he always did have a loyal kind of demeanor. but his storyline in wwe was really wierd. never ever did i see a heel get booed in 95% of his matches, but 5% he was the favorite. that was a first. the whole canada US thing. brett couldve been used wayyyy better in wcw, but hey, im glad it worked out the way it worked out from the wwe standpoint. the attitude era wasnt for bret, he knew that, vince knew that and all the fans knew that. thats why they parted ways.

frogfood · Post #2032 » by **frogfood** » Mon Sep 15, 2014 6:00 pm

wolfv's reaction, in the year 2014, that the Montreal screwjob was not a work:

wolfv · Post #2033 » by **wolfv** » Mon Sep 15, 2014 6:27 pm

poeman · Post #2034 » by **poeman** » Mon Sep 15, 2014 6:33 pm

Wait the screwjob was a work or real?

jonny31623 · Post #2035 » by **jonny31623** » Mon Sep 15, 2014 11:36 pm

poeman wrote:Wait the screwjob was a work or real?

no they screwed him. it wasnt a work.

xNewYorkMadex · Post #2036 » by **xNewYorkMadex** » Mon Sep 15, 2014 11:40 pm

Bret screwed Bret.

xNewYorkMadex · Post #2037 » by **xNewYorkMadex** » Tue Sep 16, 2014 12:30 am

Raw needs to go back to 2 hours.

3 hours is nonsense. It just gets filled with long mediocre matches.

omerome · Post #2038 » by **omerome** » Tue Sep 16, 2014 12:37 am

I don't care if they turn it into a song or get the president to dance, as much as I enjoy RAW and Smackdown, I'm not interested in the WWE Network.

Stannis · Post #2039 » by **Stannis** » Tue Sep 16, 2014 12:42 am

xTheHunterx wrote:Raw needs to go back to 2 hours.

3 hours is nonsense. It just gets filled with long mediocre matches.

More like short mediocre matches. And the rest of the 2 hours and 45 minutes are entrances, commercials, replays, and promos.

This **** is too long. And back when it was 2 hours, you could usually be sure to catch the 4th quarter of Monday Night football at least.

slicedbread2 · Post #2040 » by **slicedbread2** » Tue Sep 16, 2014 6:43 am

IMAN5 wrote:
slicedbread2 wrote:
wolfv wrote:I was wondering if any of you guys ever saw the Wrestling with Shadows documentary? It's basically about Bret Hart's last few months in the WWE. It was always on tv back then in Canada. It's been very long since I've seen it but I remember it being just an awesome wrestling doc and it really made me think maybe the screw job was all a work because it came out right after that incident. Here's the youtube link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOJcFns1IMA

At that time I was on Bret's side, thinking the WWE screwed him over. But as I got older and learned more about the wrestling business, Bret was in the wrong. When you leave a company for another you have to put the other guy over. HBK was right when he once said Bret Hart was the biggest Hit Man mark

I think the biggest problem there was that Bret was willing to drop the title, but he wanted it to be done in the states rather than in Canada since it may not have gone over too well with the fans, but after the Alundra Blayze incident where she threw the women's title in the trash, McMahon clearly wasn't going to risk that. It's a shame what happened to Bret and then the thing with Owen really sucked, but time heals all wounds. Even McMahon admitted that he was fortunate that WCW was ran by idiots who had no idea how to use Bret. If they used him to half his capabilities, I don't think McMahon is in business.

As for HBK, that dude along with the Kliq and Hogan really played a lot of politics and BS and screwed a lot of people over. I remembered when he had a retirement ceremony, basically very few people came to offer their congrats to him compared to the nature boy Ric Flair. I loved his wrestling ability, but man he was a piece of crap. I remembered how he got Marty Janetty fired after he punched HBK in the face and told McMahon to fire him.

The Marty & HBK beef was before my time, can you explain it? All I know is they were a tag team, then I saw the segment where HBK super kicks him during a promo, and then you never really hear of Marty again vs HBK who had a hall of fame career.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3M6J-FT8OJU

Check out the dude's impression on the Macho man! RIP macho man.