Ricky Rubio 'Loyal' To Wolves As Sides Discuss Extension

[Magoose]

PGs that can pass are a dime a dozen. PGs that can score and create their own shot are most valued. PGs that can defend are next in line. Rubio can do neither of these. Rbuio is a career 37% shooter from the field, 33% from three, and is an above average passer. Rubio is a below average defender. Mash all that up and you are looking at a guy that deserves $5-6m per.

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[Pickled Prunes]

PGs that can pass are a dime a dozen. PGs that can score and create their own shot are most valued. PGs that can defend are next in line. Rubio can do neither of these. Rbuio is a career 37% shooter from the field, 33% from three, and is an above average passer. Rubio is a below average defender. Mash all that up and you are looking at a guy that deserves $5-6m per.

33% from three is equal to 50% from two, so that's OK. But 37% overall is abysmal and shows poor decision making. He's fun to watch but if he gets overpaid the fans will turn on him quickly.

[Truthnobias]

Rubio's agent has his ear. Of course he's willing to sign now that Love is out of the picture. All that money just made itself available to the "best" player on the roster.

Rubio still needs to either improve his defense dramatically or improve his shooting dramatically... Or improve both to some type of average standard. Then I may consider him as a big money guy. Right now he seems like a poor man's Calderon.

This is got to be one of the worst comparisons I've heard in my life.

Ricky - elite defense and passing, beyond awful shooting, regularly takes risks.

Calderon - black hole on defense, tremendous shooter, extremely conservative.

I mean, did you even think that for a second? Or is it that you haven't watched either of them play and just came up with that because of their nationality? In either case, good job sir.

I agree. Too many comparisons are made based on nationality or race. It's cliche. I think nba analysts need to start moving away from that and really look at the skills the players possess when they are making comparisons. Rubio is a pass first pg with amazing passing abilities like calderon but is otherwise weak in areas calderon is strong in (shooting) and strong in areas calderon is weak in (defense).

[Pickled Prunes]

Rubio's agent has his ear. Of course he's willing to sign now that Love is out of the picture. All that money just made itself available to the "best" player on the roster.

Rubio still needs to either improve his defense dramatically or improve his shooting dramatically... Or improve both to some type of average standard. Then I may consider him as a big money guy. Right now he seems like a poor man's Calderon.

This is got to be one of the worst comparisons I've heard in my life.

Ricky - elite defense and passing, beyond awful shooting, regularly takes risks.

Calderon - black hole on defense, tremendous shooter, extremely conservative.

I mean, did you even think that for a second? Or is it that you haven't watched either of them play and just came up with that because of their nationality? In either case, good job sir.

I agree. Too many comparisons are made based on nationality or race. It's cliche. I think nba analysts need to start moving away from that and really look at the skills the players possess when they are making comparisons. Rubio is a pass first pg with amazing passing abilities like calderon but is otherwise weak in areas calderon is strong in (shooting) and strong in areas calderon is weak in (defense).

Rubio is a poor mans Rondo; Steve Blake is a poor mans Calderon.

[kenwood3333]

Loyal to a max offer

[nikster]

americans sports figures usually are not very loyal, especially in the NBA, especially this day in age. dirk and duncan gave back, but i dont really consider duncan fully american since he was born elsewhere.

You let the media brainwash you. Why should these guys take paycuts? You are a professional athlete, your job is to make as much money as you can while you are at the top of your game. The owners don't give a damn about the players, they see them as pawns just to make money off of.

nope not brainwashed by media...apparently you are brainwashed by the nba. there is this false "goal" of winning a championship, which really all it means is bragging rights and a cut of the winning share. Pretty sure it doesn't come close to their annual salaries. to be honest, players are embracing the "winning" mentality because it sells their brand. so while there is this idea that people confuse between really wanting to win and just saying you want to win to get the higher dollar, it really does come down to how much these guys get paid and how much you can stuff inside the salary cap. the fact that all of them get handsomely overpaid already, just shows how a little selfless a player can be to take less money, which really helps their brand, especially if they win.

Overpaid? based on what? Because based on the revenue they bring in they are not at all overpaid. Especially when you consider what their salaries would be if it were a free market (ie no salary cap or max contracts). Owners pay players like Lebron 20+ million because they know the players are worth it

[Revived]

These ho*s ain't loyal.

[HotelVitale]

nope not brainwashed by media...apparently you are brainwashed by the nba. there is this false "goal" of winning a championship, which really all it means is bragging rights and a cut of the winning share. Pretty sure it doesn't come close to their annual salaries. to be honest, players are embracing the "winning" mentality because it sells their brand. so while there is this idea that people confuse between really wanting to win and just saying you want to win to get the higher dollar, it really does come down to how much these guys get paid and how much you can stuff inside the salary cap. the fact that all of them get handsomely overpaid already, just shows how a little selfless a player can be to take less money, which really helps their brand, especially if they win.

Rough post here. The guy you're responding to said that players will take the most money, which is the exact same assumption you start with. You also state that winning is a 'false' goal, but then argue that it's actually a better goal to pursue than straight-up money/salary because it helps your image and brand in the long run. (That's the same motivation in both cases: trying to increase your overall earnings/popularity.) I also can't follow the point about 'really' wanting to win and wanting to win only to get the most money: most players seem like genuine competitors but that's at least partially because they've been rewarded in various ways for on-court success from the time they were very young. In any case there was no mention--in the article or in the other posters' responses--that it was somehow important that players find their motivation to compete from the pure competitive fire in their hearts. That was certainly not relevant to the post you're responding to.

Hard to tell if you have a real counterpoint here with the way your wrote this response.

[Ballerhogger]

We'll see how loyal he really is. If he doesn't significantly improve his shot, he is worth 9-10 mil a year.

Agreed. He will get close the max .. Or ask for it