OT: Adrian Peterson Indicted For Hitting Son With Switch

[Ayt]

And the people that say stuff like this could also be why a lot of kids are so incredibly bratty and whiny and spoiled, and grow up to be entitled, self-obsessed douchebags.

There's a line between discipline and abuse...I agree that Peterson crossed that line, but sometimes, kids don't listen. Sometimes, you NEED to have some sort of physical repercussions to poor behavior...otherwise, how are they going to learn?

It's not a hard and fast rule either...I know plenty of people that were hit as kids, and they still grew up to be asses, and similarly, I know plenty of people that never had a hand laid on them when they were kids, and they grew up to be great people. But in general, I find that the most spoilt people are people that probably should have been put in their place a long time ago, but their parents never did.

So you see a bunch of people around you that could use a good beating. That was one of his points.

No, they COULD have used a good beating back when they were kids and they were still developing as people. After a certain point, people are who they are, and that's when beating them is pointless, and shouldn't happen anymore.

Trust me, I'm not condoning abuse...I think people that abuse kids are among the worst scum on the planet...I just don't think all forms of physical disciplining are abuse. I don't believe I was abused as a child. Like I said, I never feared for my life, I never got hit to the point where I started bleeding or bruised up, and I never got hit by objects. Really, most of the time, I just got smacked upside the head, or I was hit on the back, or I was slapped. As long as you're not endangering the child, I don't see why that's such a bad thing to do when they act up. Personally, I feel like I NEEDED that kind of discipline, and I definitely learned from my mistakes afterwards.

You should read the portion in bold and really think about it. You are talking about beating human beings that are in no position to defend themselves as if it is a positive. Just think about that. Why would you think that is a good thing? They are completely defenseless and you think they deserve a beating that they cannot fight back against. Why would you possibly think that way?

[JigenDaisuke]

Why do these guys keep having so many kids with so many women? It's pretty disgusting that this is almost
a normal thing for athletes.

[Sark]

Inactivated indefinitely.

[nbafan38]

Inactivated indefinitely.

good move, I think Minnesota could feel the pressure and realized they had to act.

[Nolan]

So now he's inactive indefinitely? A day and a half ago they were standing by him, letting the legal process do its thing and letting him play. The Vikings are a joke.

[Yoshun]

I wonder why the player's union isn't stepping in on this stuff more often. These guys really shouldn't face league discipline until they have been through the judicial process and convicted of something. Peterson may have done something illegal, but he may not have. What if he didn't? Then he's being punished by the league for no reason? I understand how it effects their business, but it impacts people's lives as well.

[Worm Guts]

So now he's inactive indefinitely? A day and a half ago they were standing by him, letting the legal process do its thing and letting him play. The Vikings are a joke.

The wanted to let him play, turns out they didn't have a choice. I don't think it reflects poorly on the Vikings unless you think they should have suspended him in the first place.

[Nolan]

So now he's inactive indefinitely? A day and a half ago they were standing by him, letting the legal process do its thing and letting him play. The Vikings are a joke.

The wanted to let him play, turns out they didn't have a choice. I don't think it reflects poorly on the Vikings unless you think they should have suspended him in the first place.

I don't think he should of come off the inactive list in the first place.

[guest81]

I wonder why the player's union isn't stepping in on this stuff more often. These guys really shouldn't face league discipline until they have been through the judicial process and convicted of something. Peterson may have done something illegal, but he may not have. What if he didn't? Then he's being punished by the league for no reason? I understand how it effects their business, but it impacts people's lives as well.

I dunno the discipline for AP really isn't that bad. He's still getting paid. So he gets his paycheck AND doesn't have to go through an NFL game type beating. Sounds pretty sweet to me

[LAKESHOW]

THIS IS A MANS WORLD!! MAN UP! DONT BE A PUNK! TAKE YOUR BEATING LIKE A MAN! (on the field) DONT BE A BITCH!

[Bank Shot]

How the Vikings didn't predict the **** storm that would come from activating Peterson is beyond me. Did they really think that the public would be cool with AP just being deactivated for one game? Talk about management/ownership being out of touch.

[Yoshun]

I wonder why the player's union isn't stepping in on this stuff more often. These guys really shouldn't face league discipline until they have been through the judicial process and convicted of something. Peterson may have done something illegal, but he may not have. What if he didn't? Then he's being punished by the league for no reason? I understand how it effects their business, but it impacts people's lives as well.

I dunno the discipline for AP really isn't that bad. He's still getting paid. So he gets his paycheck AND doesn't have to go through an NFL game type beating. Sounds pretty sweet to me

Yea that's true. He is still being paid so I guess the NFLPA doesn't really care. It's just kind of a blemish on his name now. Of course, if it's true and he's convicted of something then he deserves that blemish.

[TheKingofSting]

Back to the sidelines for AD.

[83SixersRocked]

I thought the Vikings had some nads in this case for trying to do the right thing, not jumping the gun. The last I heard, there were no charges pending nor did the police plan to file any. So what "due process" will they be waiting for now? Radisson's??

[basketball royalty]

NFL is flying by the seat of their pants. Its like nobody is flying the plane. Clown show.

[epheisey]

You should read the portion in bold and really think about it. You are talking about beating human beings that are in no position to defend themselves as if it is a positive. Just think about that. Why would you think that is a good thing? They are completely defenseless and you think they deserve a beating that they cannot fight back against. Why would you possibly think that way?

You call it beating, and some people call it discipline. I was "beat" as a child if we're going to use your definition, but I would never refer to it as such. I was spanked. And it sucked. But it worked, and the only thing I would change would be to not do the things that led to me getting swatted. There's a certain age, under the age of 7-8 probably, where reason and words don't get the message across. Kids do understand disappointment though. And that was what I felt 100% of the time I was getting spanked. My parents made it clear to me that they didn't enjoy it either, but that it was necessary because explaining why something wasn't correct to a 5 year old is a fruitless task.

The funny thing is, people are opposed to physical abuse, but most of the other disciplinary options they suggest could just as easily be viewed as emotional or verbal abuse if taken too far. Sure timeouts are great. Until they're taken too far. Sure talking to the kid is fantastic, except when they don't comprehend what they're being told and it ends up getting screamed at them. So since people are so opposed to gray areas, and prefer black and white, I guess discipline as a whole just needs to get tossed out....

[Yoshun]

Hitting kids doesn't work. It's not only often taken too far, but it often sends mixed messages.

The only way it would work is if it were applied perfectly, which is pretty much impossible in standard households. Punishments are often too delayed, too severe, not severe enough, not explained. etc.... There are just too many techniques that work better than "spanking." There's no reason to do it any more.