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[wolfv]

I really can't remember if most of Bret's matches were identical or not. To me though--all his moves looked so legit and he was also one of the best sellers. He made it look "realer" than anyone else, from his basic punches/kicks to everything else. I loved his move-set. No one did a better Russian leg sweep.

He really did have a ton of natural charisma for a guy who wasn't one of the best cutting promos. Chris Benoit was like that too. Bret and HBK will always be the greatest to me

[poeman]

[Meat]

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fair assumption?

[Bill Pidto]

I really can't remember if most of Bret's matches were identical or not. To me though--all his moves looked so legit and he was also one of the best sellers. He made it look "realer" than anyone else, from his basic punches/kicks to everything else. I loved his move-set. No one did a better Russian leg sweep.

He really did have a ton of natural charisma for a guy who wasn't one of the best cutting promos. Chris Benoit was like that too. Bret and HBK will always be the greatest to me

I feel like you and I are the same wrestling fan.

Bret and Shawn >>> Mr. Perfect >>>> everyone else

Eh?

[ctorres]

This feels like we're getting a new Nexus, but actually done right without getting buried by Cena.

[Bill Pidto]

I'm a huge Bret Hart fan, but I think his in-ring performances were overrated - and it's like the pink elephant in the middle of the room to say that. 90% of his matches were completely identical. What made him great was the packaging and his charisma working together - along with him being a very consistent technical wrestler.

[Meat]

I really can't remember if most of Bret's matches were identical or not. To me though--all his moves looked so legit and he was also one of the best sellers. He made it look "realer" than anyone else, from his basic punches/kicks to everything else. I loved his move-set. No one did a better Russian leg sweep.

He really did have a ton of natural charisma for a guy who wasn't one of the best cutting promos. Chris Benoit was like that too. Bret and HBK will always be the greatest to me

I feel like you and I are the same wrestling fan.

Bret and Shawn >>> Mr. Perfect >>>> everyone else

Eh?

steamboat and flair were better than shawn(in the ring)

[IMAN5]

I don't think it's gonna be a new Nexus, it's probably gonna be the announcement that NXT is going to be in the WWE 2k15 game.

justl ike when Sting tweeted a date and everyone thought he was gonna debut, but then it was just him confirmed in wwe 2k15

[Trav_NYK]

This feels like we're getting a new Nexus, but actually done right without getting buried by Cena.

It would be cool for them to do a new nexus but I feels like I want them to come into the roster as there own individual wrestlers; but they did also do the same thing with the shield and we see how that's paying off.

[Meat]

then again "next generation" could just be flair's daughter or something debuting

[Moose]

I'm a huge Bret Hart fan, but I think his in-ring performances were overrated - and it's like the pink elephant in the middle of the room to say that. 90% of his matches were completely identical. What made him great was the packaging and his charisma working together - along with him being a very consistent technical wrestler.

A lot of guys use the same move set. But I think back on a lot of Bret's big matches and they always had great endings.

And he was great at letting potential stars be stars and stars stay stars. He didn't bury anyone. He let the bigger and stronger guys stay bigger and stronger and he let the guys his size beat him or he beat them with the way it made sense. And he protected himself and guys in matches where it was a swing either way. He kept it balanced and long lasting.

Just going quickly through my head:

Bret vs. Bulldog, Bulldog catches him with a special pin, wins clean. No one gets buried, but bulldog becomes the IC champ in England.

Bret vs. Bam Bam in King of the Ring finals. Bam bam beats the hell out of him and gets caught in a victory roll. Bret gets the pop, but this may have been Bam Bam's best match and it gave him a good push.

Bret vs. HBK when Shawn was still a heel. Made HBK look good, caught HBK off the ropes for the sharp shooter.

Bret vs. Diesel - the specific one I remember is the no disqualification match. Bret ties up Diesel, bashes him with a chair. Diesel pushes/throws Bret through a table in a great great sequence that at the time was something crazy (to me at least). Bret is in the ring, looking dead...Diesel loses focus and bret rolls him up into a small package for a surprising 3-count. Diesel loses the belt, but still shows that he is bigger and stronger and I remember he gets the belt back like a month or two later from Bob backlund.

Bret vs HBK 2 - iron man match. I haven't watched this match since, and I was in the 5th grade when it happened, but I remember being entertained and never bored for the whole hour-plus. Bret catches HBK in the sharpshooter, time runs out. They go to a sudden death and Shawn catches Bret with a super kick and follows it up with another. HBK gets a huge pop and becomes a star. Bret kept most of his status. A great moment.

Bret vs Stone Cold - Bret slowly turns heel during their first match or second match. It was a natural heel turn because the crowd didn't give him a choice. Bret beat stone cold in a similar way to how he beat Roddy Piper - sleeper hold, run to the turn buckle, hop, fall back, pin, win. That was a repeat finish move that had probably 10 years in-between them. It kept Stone Cold looking strong because he didn't get outright beat up or give up to the sharpshooter. Crowd still loved him.

Bret vs Stone Cold 2 - Bret definitely starts turning heel in this match and went with it. He did a little bit of this during the Bulldog match too, but that was more of messing with the home crowd. Bret gets Stone Cold in the sharpshooter, which is now an iconic image for stone cold when his face is full of blood and he passes out.


I remember bret handling some guys easily though. I think he beat the crap out of Razor Ramon when he had to fight him and I think doink to fight jerry the king lawler in like 1993 or some crap like that. I think that was before Razor became officially awesome in his ladder match battles with HBK.

Either way, he was good at what he did.

[wolfv]

Roman Reigns rushed to hospital for emergency surgery for incarcerated hernia. Surgery was successful. Not sure how long he will be out but obviously he wont be at the ppv tomorrow

http://www.wwe.com/shows/nightofchampio ... s-26669136

[poeman]

Roman Reigns rushed to hospital for emergency surgery for incarcerated hernia. Surgery was successful. Not sure how long he will be out but obviously he wont be at the ppv tomorrow

http://www.wwe.com/shows/nightofchampio ... s-26669136

Sucks...I guess tomorrow Seth wont fight, but probably do some mic work

[Ruzious]

I'm a huge Bret Hart fan, but I think his in-ring performances were overrated - and it's like the pink elephant in the middle of the room to say that. 90% of his matches were completely identical. What made him great was the packaging and his charisma working together - along with him being a very consistent technical wrestler.

A lot of guys use the same move set. But I think back on a lot of Bret's big matches and they always had great endings.

And he was great at letting potential stars be stars and stars stay stars. He didn't bury anyone. He let the bigger and stronger guys stay bigger and stronger and he let the guys his size beat him or he beat them with the way it made sense. And he protected himself and guys in matches where it was a swing either way. He kept it balanced and long lasting.

Just going quickly through my head:

Bret vs. Bulldog, Bulldog catches him with a special pin, wins clean. No one gets buried, but bulldog becomes the IC champ in England.

Bret vs. Bam Bam in King of the Ring finals. Bam bam beats the hell out of him and gets caught in a victory roll. Bret gets the pop, but this may have been Bam Bam's best match and it gave him a good push.

Bret vs. HBK when Shawn was still a heel. Made HBK look good, caught HBK off the ropes for the sharp shooter.

Bret vs. Diesel - the specific one I remember is the no disqualification match. Bret ties up Diesel, bashes him with a chair. Diesel pushes/throws Bret through a table in a great great sequence that at the time was something crazy (to me at least). Bret is in the ring, looking dead...Diesel loses focus and bret rolls him up into a small package for a surprising 3-count. Diesel loses the belt, but still shows that he is bigger and stronger and I remember he gets the belt back like a month or two later from Bob backlund.

Bret vs HBK 2 - iron man match. I haven't watched this match since, and I was in the 5th grade when it happened, but I remember being entertained and never bored for the whole hour-plus. Bret catches HBK in the sharpshooter, time runs out. They go to a sudden death and Shawn catches Bret with a super kick and follows it up with another. HBK gets a huge pop and becomes a star. Bret kept most of his status. A great moment.

Bret vs Stone Cold - Bret slowly turns heel during their first match or second match. It was a natural heel turn because the crowd didn't give him a choice. Bret beat stone cold in a similar way to how he beat Roddy Piper - sleeper hold, run to the turn buckle, hop, fall back, pin, win. That was a repeat finish move that had probably 10 years in-between them. It kept Stone Cold looking strong because he didn't get outright beat up or give up to the sharpshooter. Crowd still loved him.

Bret vs Stone Cold 2 - Bret definitely starts turning heel in this match and went with it. He did a little bit of this during the Bulldog match too, but that was more of messing with the home crowd. Bret gets Stone Cold in the sharpshooter, which is now an iconic image for stone cold when his face is full of blood and he passes out.


I remember bret handling some guys easily though. I think he beat the crap out of Razor Ramon when he had to fight him and I think doink to fight jerry the king lawler in like 1993 or some crap like that. I think that was before Razor became officially awesome in his ladder match battles with HBK.

Either way, he was good at what he did.

I don't think any of that goes against anything I said. But a lot of what you're giving Bret Hart credit for are things that were decided for him - not by him.

[Heat3]

Ambrose returns to beat Rollins ass all over the arena

[DASMACKDOWN]

That was cool that they made up for Roman Reigns being out by bringing back Dean Ambrose. That was probably 10 times better than what the actual match was supposed to be.

[ctorres]

So bummed Ziggler dropped the title to The Miz

[Kobe System]

So what now? Cena versus Rollins. Brock versus ???

[runnyc]

So what now? Cena versus Rollins. Brock versus ???

Brock vs. the Authority would kick so much ass. Too bad it won't happen.

[Stannis]

They are going to keep drawing this out till Bryan's return.

Best part of this PPV (not me though, I got it with WWE Network for only 9.99) was Ambrose's elbow drop on those 14 security guys.