Future draft classes

[bigboi]

Kwe's got "just another guy that dunks" written all over him to me. all the other leapers and guard freaks in that class (Woods, Smith Jr, Monk) are better than he is at pretty much everything it would seem.

His athleticism isn't that impresssive other than leaping imo

[165bows]

http://www.usab.com/news-events/news/20 ... -camp.aspx

Fifty-three of the nation’s top high school aged basketball players will convene on the United States Olympic Training Center in Colorado Springs, Colorado, for the 6th annual USA Basketball Men’s Junior National Team mini-camp on Oct. 4-5.

The training camp will be used to continue player evaluations and to get a start on preparations for several upcoming international competitions, including in 2015 the Nike Hoop Summit, 2015 FIBA Americas U16 Championship, as well as for the 2016 FIBA U17 World Championship and 2016 FIBA Americas U18 Championship.

[B-Ball Freak]

i dont think ayton's athleticism is that of shawn kemp's, but who knows. when kemp was his age, he was a man-child, filled out frame and all. the kid doesn't even have man muscles yet. idk about the d-rob "mind for the game" comment either. he's still just a soph. all i know is that he has the tools, he has the temperament (great motor, unselfish and plays locked in on both ends) and he does have some semblance of skill with the touch on his jumper.

"I haven't seen a better bigman prospect in the 20 plus years that I've been doing this"

Is this an accurate statement about Ayton? it's from the NBAdraft.net article

[Marcus]

i dont think ayton's athleticism is that of shawn kemp's, but who knows. when kemp was his age, he was a man-child, filled out frame and all. the kid doesn't even have man muscles yet. idk about the d-rob "mind for the game" comment either. he's still just a soph. all i know is that he has the tools, he has the temperament (great motor, unselfish and plays locked in on both ends) and he does have some semblance of skill with the touch on his jumper.

"I haven't seen a better bigman prospect in the 20 plus years that I've been doing this"

Is this an accurate statement about Ayton? it's from the NBAdraft.net article

that would be the opinion of the writer wouldn't it?

[165bows]

i dont think ayton's athleticism is that of shawn kemp's, but who knows. when kemp was his age, he was a man-child, filled out frame and all. the kid doesn't even have man muscles yet. idk about the d-rob "mind for the game" comment either. he's still just a soph. all i know is that he has the tools, he has the temperament (great motor, unselfish and plays locked in on both ends) and he does have some semblance of skill with the touch on his jumper.

"I haven't seen a better bigman prospect in the 20 plus years that I've been doing this"

Is this an accurate statement about Ayton? it's from the NBAdraft.net article

that would be the opinion of the writer wouldn't it?

I believe from an earlier look at that article that that line was supposed to be a quote from a scout. I've never seen him so not sure if it passes muster or not.

[Marcus]

"I haven't seen a better bigman prospect in the 20 plus years that I've been doing this"

Is this an accurate statement about Ayton? it's from the NBAdraft.net article

that would be the opinion of the writer wouldn't it?

I believe from an earlier look at that article that that line was supposed to be a quote from a scout. I've never seen him so not sure if it passes muster or not.

I'm pretty curious to see him live myself with all the hype he's getting. i think the game where he dropped 17 and grabbed 18 boards against North Carolina can be found on youtube though.

[ManualRam]

i dont think ayton's athleticism is that of shawn kemp's, but who knows. when kemp was his age, he was a man-child, filled out frame and all. the kid doesn't even have man muscles yet. idk about the d-rob "mind for the game" comment either. he's still just a soph. all i know is that he has the tools, he has the temperament (great motor, unselfish and plays locked in on both ends) and he does have some semblance of skill with the touch on his jumper.

"I haven't seen a better bigman prospect in the 20 plus years that I've been doing this"

Is this an accurate statement about Ayton? it's from the NBAdraft.net article

i'd have to think about that. i think he's too young and raw to be putting in a class like that.
he IS the prototype though in terms of tools.

[EMG518]

Was bored and watched my first video from the 2017 class on youtube. Ayton looks like a really really good prosepct. I get the hype, he is an exciting prospect. Zach Brown looks like he has some potential, Jalek Felton looks good, Trevon Duval as well, D.J. Harvey.

[Marcus]

Was bored and watched my first video from the 2017 class on youtube. Ayton looks like a really really good prosepct. I get the hype, he is an exciting prospect. Zach Brown looks like he has some potential, Jalek Felton looks good, Trevon Duval as well.

Troy Brown Jr. also

[EMG518]

Was bored and watched my first video from the 2017 class on youtube. Ayton looks like a really really good prosepct. I get the hype, he is an exciting prospect. Zach Brown looks like he has some potential, Jalek Felton looks good, Trevon Duval as well.

Troy Brown Jr. also

He didnt look that promising to me

[ManualRam]

love troy brown. he's not just a tall guard who wants to play point so he can stay on the ball. he's a tall guard with some of the best PG instincts among all PG prospects, and he's what 15 y/o at 6'5-6'6?

[EMG518]

love troy brown. he's not just a tall guard who wants to play point so he can stay on the ball. he's a tall guard with some of the best PG instincts among all PG prospects, and he's what 15 y/o at 6'5-6'6?

Didnt look like the greatest athlete from what I saw. Big knock for me if thats the case.

Just binge watched a ton, anyone ever seen Ray Smith, Carlton Bragg, Brandon Sampson, or Deng Adel?

[ManualRam]

love troy brown. he's not just a tall guard who wants to play point so he can stay on the ball. he's a tall guard with some of the best PG instincts among all PG prospects, and he's what 15 y/o at 6'5-6'6?

Didnt look like the greatest athlete from what I saw. Big knock for me if thats the case.

Just binge watched a ton, anyone ever seen Ray Smith, Carlton Bragg, Brandon Sampson, or Deng Adel

in what setting did you see him in?
he's a 6'6 point guard and a real one too. how athletic does he need to be? also, i wouldn't be so quick to write off the athleticism of kids who just turned 15. they dont even have their man muscles in. that's the bad thing about evaluating kids who aren't even old enough to drive.
his iq is off the charts good, that's good enough for me to be super high on him.

[Marcus]

Just binge watched a ton, anyone ever seen Ray Smith, Carlton Bragg, Brandon Sampson, or Deng Adel?

pretty big on Ray Smith hope he recovers 100% off his injury

[EMG518]

love troy brown. he's not just a tall guard who wants to play point so he can stay on the ball. he's a tall guard with some of the best PG instincts among all PG prospects, and he's what 15 y/o at 6'5-6'6?

Didnt look like the greatest athlete from what I saw. Big knock for me if thats the case.

Just binge watched a ton, anyone ever seen Ray Smith, Carlton Bragg, Brandon Sampson, or Deng Adel

in what setting did you see him in?
he's a 6'6 point guard and a real one too. how athletic does he need to be? also, i wouldn't be so quick to write off the athleticism of kids who just turned 15. they dont even have their man muscles in. that's the bad thing about evaluating kids who aren't even old enough to drive.
his iq is off the charts good, that's good enough for me to be super high on him.

There is like 10 minutes of game footage on youtube of plays involving him. To me he doesnt look like a great athlete, not terribly quick, dont see him being able to get around defenders as he moves up and while tall and long not the greatest build.

[ManualRam]

Didnt look like the greatest athlete from what I saw. Big knock for me if thats the case.

Just binge watched a ton, anyone ever seen Ray Smith, Carlton Bragg, Brandon Sampson, or Deng Adel

in what setting did you see him in?
he's a 6'6 point guard and a real one too. how athletic does he need to be? also, i wouldn't be so quick to write off the athleticism of kids who just turned 15. they dont even have their man muscles in. that's the bad thing about evaluating kids who aren't even old enough to drive.
his iq is off the charts good, that's good enough for me to be super high on him.

There is like 10 minutes of game footage on youtube of plays involving him. To me he doesnt look like a great athlete, not terribly quick, dont see him being able to get around defenders as he moves up and while tall and long not the greatest build.

again, he literally turned 15 about a month ago. kids that age, unless they're manchilds are still growing into their bodies, not packing on man muscle.
i think he'll be fantastic. you look at as kid like MCW or andrew harrison and you wish he played with the type of poise, vision and clarity that brown does. he doesnt need to be jitter bug quick, he's 6'6 with a 6'9 wingspan. he has more range in his movements and he covers more ground than a typical 6'1 PG.
he's a kid who's holding his own and outplaying 18+ y/o's already.

[EMG518]

in what setting did you see him in?
he's a 6'6 point guard and a real one too. how athletic does he need to be? also, i wouldn't be so quick to write off the athleticism of kids who just turned 15. they dont even have their man muscles in. that's the bad thing about evaluating kids who aren't even old enough to drive.
his iq is off the charts good, that's good enough for me to be super high on him.

There is like 10 minutes of game footage on youtube of plays involving him. To me he doesnt look like a great athlete, not terribly quick, dont see him being able to get around defenders as he moves up and while tall and long not the greatest build.

again, he literally turned 15 about a month ago. kids that age, unless they're manchilds are still growing into their bodies, not packing on man muscle.
i think he'll be fantastic. you look at as kid like MCW or andrew harrison and you wish he played with the type of poise, vision and clarity that brown does. he doesnt need to be jitter bug quick, he's 6'6 with a 6'9 wingspan. he has more range in his movements and he covers more ground than a typical 6'1 PG.
he's a kid who's holding his own and outplaying 18+ y/o's already.

I guess we will just agree to disagree and we will see in the future.

[Marcus]

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Michael Porter Jr. just watched some film on him with the whole "baby KD" hype he's getting. heard he's been impressive at the USA camp going on right now. From the film i saw kid has a nice handle finishes above the rim with the potential to get better, wasn't super quick but didn't look like he needed to be either. His range apparently is the strongest aspect of his game and his form looks pretty good. Only gripe i had is the release looks a little slow. But i guess you afford to not feel rushed getting of jumpers when you're 6'8" at 16 years old with enough handle to create enough seperation. Dunno if it will be a problem when everybody catches up though.

same graduating class as Ayton and Brown. is he in that same class potential wise? Have you seen him? what are your thoughts?

[ManualRam]

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Michael Porter Jr. just watched some film on him with the whole "baby KD" hype he's getting. heard he's been impressive at the USA camp going on right now. From the film i saw kid has a nice handle finishes above the rim with the potential to get better, wasn't super quick but didn't look like he needed to be either. His range apparently is the strongest aspect of his game and his form looks pretty good. Only gripe i had is the release looks a little slow. But i guess you afford to not feel rushed getting of jumpers when you're 6'8" at 16 years old with enough handle to create enough seperation. Dunno if it will be a problem when everybody catches up though.

same graduating class as Ayton and Brown. is he in that same class potential wise? Have you seen him? what are your thoughts?

i haven't seen too much of porter at all. the last time i saw him (actually, probably the only time i saw him) he looked like a tall, lanky shooter who was at an awkward stage, growing into his body. he's supposedly improved since then. getting bigger and being more aggressive off the bounce. i can't add much more to that other than my initial impression and seeing highlights here and there. it could be a lazy comparison since both are light-skinned, 6'8 kids from mizzou, but he looks like a better version of jayson tatum. better frame and is a little more aggressive attacking. looking forward to seeing more of him.

[Rastas]

love troy brown. he's not just a tall guard who wants to play point so he can stay on the ball. he's a tall guard with some of the best PG instincts among all PG prospects, and he's what 15 y/o at 6'5-6'6?

Didnt look like the greatest athlete from what I saw. Big knock for me if thats the case.

Just binge watched a ton, anyone ever seen Ray Smith, Carlton Bragg, Brandon Sampson, or Deng Adel?

Looking forward to seeing 6'7" Deng Adel as the starting SG for the Australians at next years U/19 Worlds, though with a lineup that could include Simmons, Maker and Humphries I hope he can find enough ball to get his.