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Re: Premier League Fantasy Draft Thread (Miami/Kerrsed/Nevet 

Post#101 » by TASTIC » Wed Sep 24, 2014 9:12 am

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DRK wrote:Its been 35mins, and Kerrsed hasnt picked . What a loser


Im thinking dammit! I totally had my eye on someone, but now im questioning myself (again). High risk / high reward or Low risk / medium reward? choices.... choices..... choices, ITS TOO MUCH PRESSURE!!!!!


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Quit fappening about and make your pick! :D
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Re: Premier League Fantasy Draft Thread (Miami/Kerrsed/Nevet 

Post#102 » by Kerrsed » Wed Sep 24, 2014 9:50 am

sunskerr wrote:I'll pick for you.


3/4/8 and no handjob?
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Re: Premier League Fantasy Draft Thread (Miami/Kerrsed/Nevet 

Post#103 » by Kerrsed » Wed Sep 24, 2014 10:02 am

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Re: Premier League Fantasy Draft Thread (Nevets/CK/DRK) 

Post#104 » by nevetsov » Wed Sep 24, 2014 10:06 am

I f***n hate you, Kerrsed.

Knew I shouldn't have sent you my picks...
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Re: Premier League Fantasy Draft Thread (Nevets/CK/DRK) 

Post#105 » by Kerrsed » Wed Sep 24, 2014 10:11 am

nevetsov wrote:I f***n hate you, Kerrsed.

Knew I shouldn't have sent you my picks...


I was going to pick him, but then started having 2nd thoughts on it. In the end i decided to go with my brain over my gut. Your email (for your 2nd round pick) had no influence, and honestly i forgot all about it.
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Re: Premier League Fantasy Draft Thread (Miami/Kerrsed/Nevet 

Post#106 » by sunskerr » Wed Sep 24, 2014 10:19 am

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sunskerr wrote:I'll pick for you.


3/4/8 and no handjob?


:lol:

Glad you got your guy though. I think he's an insane gamble but sometimes players are just due for a healthy season, y'know?
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Re: Premier League Fantasy Draft Thread (Nevets/CK/DRK) 

Post#107 » by nevetsov » Wed Sep 24, 2014 10:29 am

Not keen on any of the string of PGs Yahoo has ranked as best available, so I'm going to have to change strategy and pick Dwight Howard, FTs be damned.
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Re: Premier League Fantasy Draft Thread (Nevets/CK/DRK) 

Post#108 » by nevetsov » Wed Sep 24, 2014 10:31 am

B Lopez is due for a good season, and with both the departure of Pierce, and the aging of Garnett/JJ/Williams I think he'll beast.
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Re: Premier League Fantasy Draft Thread (Miami/Kerrsed/Nevet 

Post#109 » by Kerrsed » Wed Sep 24, 2014 10:32 am

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sunskerr wrote:I'll pick for you.


3/4/8 and no handjob?


:lol:

Glad you got your guy though. I think he's an insane gamble but sometimes players are just due for a healthy season, y'know?


I know. Most of the guys i was looking at there were injured players. High Risk / High Reward. I was planning on Rose but heard some things that didnt sit well for me. Also his WC play wasnt good at all. Then i became all about Lopez (like i told you in the PM). But then i started looking at Kobe. From Kobe i went to Wade, and from Wade i went to Howard. I became set on Howard, but i couldnt pull the trigger due to him being a team killer in roto. No matter what his stats are, he will kill your team, which seems crazy, but its true. There is a reason he ended up being ranked #156 at the end of the season. Then it went back to the 4 injury ridden stars. Bad things all around, but from my research i began to have the most faith in Brook.

Someone has to play well in Brooklyn! With PP now in Washington and Garnette moving to starting PF, i think Brook is going to be a huge part of the team. Everything i have heard about his recovery has been good, hearing Lionel Hollins talk about how he plans to use Brook was great news, and knowing how Hollins has used Marc Gasol in the past made me have to take Lopez over the others.

Only thing that worries me is those damn rebounds! What is wrong with the Lopez Family??? How can you be over 7 feet tall and have NEVER averaged over 7 rebounds??? Thats just crazy. But when all is said and done, Lopez had top 15 value last season before he went down to injury. If he can provide that value this season, i can totally look past his softness on the boards.
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Re: Premier League Fantasy Draft Thread (Nevets/CK/DRK) 

Post#110 » by nevetsov » Wed Sep 24, 2014 10:36 am

That said, I'll trade you BLopez for Howard and I'll even throw in a chicken sandwich.
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Re: Premier League Fantasy Draft Thread (CK/DRK/Sunskerr) 

Post#111 » by Kerrsed » Wed Sep 24, 2014 10:44 am

Sorry, I will pass on Howard once again. I had him on my first in fantasy league team and he killed me. I have kept an eye on whoever drafts him every year, and they always end up wanting to trade him. If he could just learn how to shoot a free throw things would be so much different, but when you're making 4 out of 10 free throws a game you're looking at last place in field goal percentage. I play to win, and that's impossible to do with Howard dragging your team down

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Re: Premier League Fantasy Draft Thread (CK/DRK/Sunskerr) 

Post#112 » by DRK » Wed Sep 24, 2014 10:50 am

I made the mistake of drafting Howard once. Never, ever again.
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Re: Premier League Fantasy Draft Thread (CK/DRK/Sunskerr) 

Post#113 » by sunskerr » Wed Sep 24, 2014 10:51 am

Kerrsed wrote:Sorry, I will pass on Howard once again. I had him on my first in fantasy league team and he killed me. I have kept an eye on whoever drafts him every year, and they always end up wanting to trade him. If he could just learn how to shoot a free throw things would be so much different, but when you're making 4 out of 10 free throws a game you're looking at last place in field goal percentage. I play to win, and that's impossible to do with Howard dragging your team down

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I would say it is possible to build a team that at least does not place last in ft% with Howard. You'd need every other player to have big positives in ft% contributions. However, Howard's 18/12 with less than 2 blks per game were not his numbers with the Magic and those are the reasons you would even want to draft Howard (good points, big rebounds and big blocks). It's just so dicey though because you might have to be reaching on ft% guys.

If I'm not being too blunt here (and I don't mean any disrespect to Nevetsov picking Howard), my honest opinion is that Howard is a late round pick in Roto.
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Re: Premier League Fantasy Draft Thread (CK/DRK/Sunskerr) 

Post#114 » by Kerrsed » Wed Sep 24, 2014 10:56 am

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Kerrsed wrote:Sorry, I will pass on Howard once again. I had him on my first in fantasy league team and he killed me. I have kept an eye on whoever drafts him every year, and they always end up wanting to trade him. If he could just learn how to shoot a free throw things would be so much different, but when you're making 4 out of 10 free throws a game you're looking at last place in field goal percentage. I play to win, and that's impossible to do with Howard dragging your team down

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I would say it is possible to build a team that at least does not place last in ft% with Howard. You'd need every other player to have big positives in ft% contributions. However, Howard's 18/12 with less than 2 blks per game were not his numbers with the Magic and those are the reasons you would even want to draft Howard (good points, big rebounds and big blocks). It's just so dicey though because you might have to be reaching on ft% guys.

If I'm not being too blunt here (and I don't mean any disrespect to Nevetsov picking Howard), my honest opinion is that Howard is a late round pick in Roto.


I had GREAT FT% guys on my squad with Howard (Ray Allen/Jose Calderon/Others that i forgot) and still it brought me down to the depths of the league in FT%. Most of the great FT shooters only end up taking around 3 FT's a game. Howard AVERAGES 9+ a game. Thats not including the Hack-a-Howard games where i have seen him take over 15 FT's. He just doesnt care about his FT's and has said so himself.

It still boggles my mind that every year Yahoo has him ranked in the late 20's to late 30's in the draft rankings (been going up every year), yet he always finishes above #125 every single season. He's ok in H2H leagues, but the rankings in Yahoo are adjusted to whatever the league is set at, Roto 8-cat in our case.
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Re: Premier League Fantasy Draft Thread (CK/DRK/Sunskerr) 

Post#115 » by sunskerr » Wed Sep 24, 2014 11:20 am

I just tried to build a hypothetical team using Howard, and the best scenario I could come up with after 4 rounds was still below the average. This assumes Howard is available in the fourth round, which in most leagues is probably not happening:

I only picked players whom I felt were reasonably obtainable in a draft scenario. I had to assume I was getting the #1 pick, so I could use Durant's FT% as a counterbalance (Harden's impact is also doable, I suppose). Then with the back to back picks of round 2 & 3, I added Dirk and Brook Lopez. Dirk being available at the end of the 2nd is certainly a huge stretch however, but in some lesser leagues it may be possible.

There's no doubt had I continued, I would be slightly above the average ft%. But without Durant or Harden, it's a long shot that you're able to balance your team with Howard.
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Re: Premier League Fantasy Draft Thread (CK/DRK/Sunskerr) 

Post#116 » by Kerrsed » Wed Sep 24, 2014 11:24 am

sunskerr wrote:I just tried to build a hypothetical team using Howard, and the best scenario I could come up with after 4 rounds was still below the average. This assumes Howard is available in the fourth round, which in most leagues is probably not happening:

I only picked players whom I felt were reasonably obtainable in a draft scenario. I had to assume I was getting the #1 pick, so I could use Durant's FT% as a counterbalance (Harden's impact is also doable, I suppose). Then with the back to back picks of round 2 & 3, I added Dirk and Brook Lopez. Dirk being available at the end of the 2nd is certainly a huge stretch however, but in some lesser leagues it may be possible.

There's no doubt had I continued, I would be slightly above the average ft%. But without Durant or Harden, it's a long shot that you're able to balance your team with Howard.


According to Basketball Monster, Dwight Howard’s negative impact is more than twice the positive impact that Kevin Durant will give you. Yes, that means you can have two KDs to go with Howard and you will not be in the top half in the Roto standings in most cases. Drummond and Jordan are also worse than KD by significant margins. Basically, you’re eliminating 20 percent of KD’s value should you pair him with one of these guys. The same goes for James Harden
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Re: Premier League Fantasy Draft Thread (CK/DRK/Sunskerr) 

Post#117 » by nevetsov » Wed Sep 24, 2014 11:25 am

Yeah my chances went out the door when I made Kawhi my 2nd round pick. Should have secured a big when I had the chance, now with only a guard and SF, I had to reach for pts/rbs/blks. Ah well, I'll just aim to not get relegated.
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Re: Premier League Fantasy Draft Thread (CK/DRK/Sunskerr) 

Post#118 » by nevetsov » Wed Sep 24, 2014 11:27 am

But the real draft doesn't start til Oct 1st, right? This is just a mock? ;)
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Re: Premier League Fantasy Draft Thread (CK/DRK/Sunskerr) 

Post#119 » by sunskerr » Wed Sep 24, 2014 11:27 am

Kerrsed wrote:According to Basketball Monster, Dwight Howard’s negative impact is more than twice the positive impact that Kevin Durant will give you. Yes, that means you can have two KDs to go with Howard and you will not be in the top half in the Roto standings in most cases. Drummond and Jordan are also worse than KD by significant margins. Basically, you’re eliminating 20 percent of KD’s value should you pair him with one of these guys. The same goes for James Harden


Use the team builder. It's possible but it's a massive long shot. I don't want to get deeper into the other players I selected for that team because I might want to draft a few of them.
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Re: Premier League Fantasy Draft Thread (CK/DRK/Sunskerr) 

Post#120 » by Kerrsed » Wed Sep 24, 2014 11:29 am

nevetsov wrote:But the real draft doesn't start til Oct 1st, right? This is just a mock? ;)



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