ATL - Bledsoe signs with the Suns for 5/$70

Baddy Chuck · Post #41 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Thu Sep 25, 2014 6:08 am

I think Goodwin would be a much better get than Ennis. Like not even close.

MrPerfect1 · Post #42 » by **MrPerfect1** » Thu Sep 25, 2014 6:18 am

WeekapaugGroove wrote: I'm a dual suns and bucks fan and it was a hell of a lot more entertaining watching the suns last year than the abortion of a team the bucks through out there.

I found last season by the Bucks to be immensely enjoyable. Possibly the single most enjoyable season since we went to the ECF vs PHI

cinematographer · Post #43 » by **cinematographer** » Thu Sep 25, 2014 6:19 am

Love Bledsoe re-signing with Phoenix. Less room for Bogdanovic!

Chapter29 · Post #44 » by **Chapter29** » Thu Sep 25, 2014 10:48 am

Too rich for my blood. Glad he resigned with the Suns.

Nebula1 · Post #45 » by **Nebula1** » Thu Sep 25, 2014 11:47 am

Baddy Chuck wrote:I think Goodwin would be a much better get than Ennis. Like not even close.

No doubt, but I don't think Goodwin goes anywhere. He's the future 2 in Phoenix (or should be). But Ennis could still be a nice pickup for Milwaukee and would fit right in. I'd be curious to see what he'd command in return.

I'd love, love to see Dragic end up in Indiana to replace Stephenson.

rioeire · Post #46 » by **rioeire** » Thu Sep 25, 2014 12:52 pm

Terible deal IMHO for the suns

Badgerlander · Post #47 » by **Badgerlander** » Thu Sep 25, 2014 1:24 pm

Bledsoe's deal is 13m/13.5/14/14.5/15 so if the cap jumps to 80 in two years he'll be 16.875% of their cap space. They got him for an extra year than Hayward for an additional 7mil, so Bledsoe's deal is less on average per year. If Dragic's next deal is a max one it starts at 17.7mil, so they'll have 2 players accounting for 39% of the cap. They have their 6th man of the year candidate wrapped up for 6.5mil/year, a guy that dropped an efficient 20/6 last year in under 36 minutes. If they get the Morris twins resigned at a discount, sign Zoran for cheap, and TJ Warren continues to destroy the rim and Goodwin continues to develop they have the makings of a pretty good team. Not to mention the trade chips of Gerald Green's and Tolliver's expiring contracts and trade chips in Ennis and Bogdan, not to mention 3 first round picks in next summers draft, they are sitting pretty.

Diggr14 · Post #48 » by **Diggr14** » Thu Sep 25, 2014 1:48 pm

Way too much to pay a 6'1 (if that) guard who hasn't had a close to all-star performance over any of his seasons in the league so far. He barely played half of a season last year as well.

Going forward though, I think the Suns made their choice. If they were smart, they would trade Dragic sooner rather than later and get more talent on the wings and underneath the basket.

WeekapaugGroove · Post #49 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Thu Sep 25, 2014 2:22 pm

Nebula1 wrote:
Baddy Chuck wrote:I think Goodwin would be a much better get than Ennis. Like not even close.

No doubt, but I don't think Goodwin goes anywhere. He's the future 2 in Phoenix (or should be). But Ennis could still be a nice pickup for Milwaukee and would fit right in. I'd be curious to see what he'd command in return.

I'd love, love to see Dragic end up in Indiana to replace Stephenson.

I think the suns would trade ennis or Goodwin but would either want future assets or they would be part of a bigger package for an impact big. Otherwise I think they are content to put them both down in the D-league for most of this year. Both guys were one and done college guys and are very raw.

Indiana reportedly offered Hibbert for dragic and the suns said no thanks. I think the plan is still to give Goran a big contract next summer. I think they like him as a sg next to Bledsoe their skill sets compliment each other well.

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eagle13 · Post #50 » by **eagle13** » Thu Sep 25, 2014 2:22 pm

Diggr14 wrote:Way too much to pay a 6'1 (if that) guard who hasn't had a close to all-star performance over any of his seasons in the league so far. He barely played half of a season last year as well.

Going forward though, I think the Suns made their choice. If they were smart, they would trade Dragic sooner rather than later and get more talent on the wings and underneath the basket.

If it was an option I would have sent eric to MN for Pek or Dieng

Ron Swanson · Post #51 » by **Ron Swanson** » Thu Sep 25, 2014 2:25 pm

I guess I don't see this Suns team "stuck in mediocrity" like many here do. Bledsoe and Dragic are all-star caliber players and Thomas, Green, Morris bros, and Plumlee are valuable, young players on reasonable and/or cheap deals.

So you essentially return your entire young core that won 48 games in the West last season, then add in Ennis, Warren, and 3 1st round picks in next years draft? Even if they get nothing out of Goodwin and Alex Len, that's a pretty damn good core/future.

I don't see anything mediocre about it.

Badgerlander · Post #52 » by **Badgerlander** » Thu Sep 25, 2014 2:25 pm

They are fine at the wings with TJ Warren and Archie Goodwin plus I think Marcus Morris will have a good year, and I absolutely love Plumlee. If they start getting anything out of Len they'll be just fine.

Nebula1 · Post #53 » by **Nebula1** » Thu Sep 25, 2014 2:27 pm

WeekapaugGroove wrote:
Nebula1 wrote:
Baddy Chuck wrote:I think Goodwin would be a much better get than Ennis. Like not even close.

No doubt, but I don't think Goodwin goes anywhere. He's the future 2 in Phoenix (or should be). But Ennis could still be a nice pickup for Milwaukee and would fit right in. I'd be curious to see what he'd command in return.

I'd love, love to see Dragic end up in Indiana to replace Stephenson.
I think the suns would trade ennis or Goodwin but would either want future assets or they would be part of a bigger package for an impact big. Otherwise I think they are content to put them both down in the D-league for most of this year. Both guys were one and done college guys and are very raw.

Indiana reportedly offered Hibbert for dragic and the suns said no thanks. I think the plan is still to give Goran a big contract next summer. I think they like him as a sg next to Bledsoe their skill sets compliment each other well.

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I don't think Goodwin will spend time in the Ds, but wouldn't be shocked to see Ennis there.

If the Bucks are set on Sanders, Parker, Giannis, then I imagine both Henson and Ilyasova are on the table in addition to a number of other players.

Badgerlander · Post #54 » by **Badgerlander** » Thu Sep 25, 2014 2:28 pm

Zoran just told his euro team he is headed to the Suns

Badgerlander · Post #55 » by **Badgerlander** » Thu Sep 25, 2014 2:40 pm

James also spoke about is highly publicized diet in which he refrained from carbs, sugar, and dairy products for 67 days. He said "I haven't been in this weight class. ... I'm in the 250ish range, you know, a lot lighter than I've been playing at in the last few years. But I feel good."

LeBron is down to 250ish lbs, DOWN TO

WeekapaugGroove · Post #56 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Thu Sep 25, 2014 2:58 pm

Nebula1 wrote:
WeekapaugGroove wrote:
Nebula1 wrote:

No doubt, but I don't think Goodwin goes anywhere. He's the future 2 in Phoenix (or should be). But Ennis could still be a nice pickup for Milwaukee and would fit right in. I'd be curious to see what he'd command in return.

I'd love, love to see Dragic end up in Indiana to replace Stephenson.
I think the suns would trade ennis or Goodwin but would either want future assets or they would be part of a bigger package for an impact big. Otherwise I think they are content to put them both down in the D-league for most of this year. Both guys were one and done college guys and are very raw.

Indiana reportedly offered Hibbert for dragic and the suns said no thanks. I think the plan is still to give Goran a big contract next summer. I think they like him as a sg next to Bledsoe their skill sets compliment each other well.

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I don't think Goodwin will spend time in the Ds, but wouldn't be shocked to see Ennis there.

If the Bucks are set on Sanders, Parker, Giannis, then I imagine both Henson and Ilyasova are on the table in addition to a number of other players.

ennis is for sure headed to the d-league they've hinted that he could be there the whole season. Goodwin will probably split time there and up with the club like he did last year. He's an interesting prospect who shows flashes and has one elite skill in getting to the rim. But with that said until he learns to hit a jumper at a reasonable rate defenders sag off him and negate that ability. even in his second year he's still one of the youngest players in the league so the suns are going to be patient with him.

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Badgerlander · Post #57 » by **Badgerlander** » Thu Sep 25, 2014 3:50 pm

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Zoran 2yrs/3.5mil Suns

Diggr14 · Post #58 » by **Diggr14** » Thu Sep 25, 2014 4:27 pm

Why in the hell did they sign Isaiah Thomas.... Just seems like a logjam of PGs with G. Dragic, Bledsoe, and Thomas. Now with them bringing in Goran's brother, it seems to me that Thomas makes the most sense to move midseason.

Zoran Dragic should be a decent minutes guy for them on the wing or the 2. He's a bit taller than his brother IIRC.

raferfenix · Post #59 » by **raferfenix** » Thu Sep 25, 2014 4:31 pm

You have to think Ennis is available.

Suns are going all in behind Bledsoe and Goran and already have Thomas backing up both.

They seem primed to consolidate some young players and assets into another solid starter.

raferfenix · Post #60 » by **raferfenix** » Thu Sep 25, 2014 4:57 pm

Zach Lowe on Bledsoe:

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/eric- ... enix-suns/