Cousins

dckingsfan · Post #141 » by **dckingsfan** » Fri Sep 19, 2014 1:35 pm

Dat2U wrote:According to snyergy numbers back in late March (sorry I don't have a current subscription), Cousins posted up 30% of the time & was used in the P&R roll man 18% of the time. He ISO'd only 8% of the time. However even in ISO situations, you need space to operate... throw a big C down low in Cousins' way and suddenly those post ups, P&Rs & ISOs are tougher to execute because the lane is now crowded.

Good stats... I see your point of view.

Post #142 » by **Ruzious** » Fri Sep 19, 2014 2:56 pm

dckingsfan wrote:
Dat2U wrote:According to snyergy numbers back in late March (sorry I don't have a current subscription), Cousins posted up 30% of the time & was used in the P&R roll man 18% of the time. He ISO'd only 8% of the time. However even in ISO situations, you need space to operate... throw a big C down low in Cousins' way and suddenly those post ups, P&Rs & ISOs are tougher to execute because the lane is now crowded.

Good stats... I see your point of view.

The game really has changed over the last decade or so - not just with 3 point shooting but also rules protecting players who drive to the basket - defensive 3 seconds and no hand-checking. Old school fans remember the days where low post basketball was the primary way to score. But now - if you have more than 1 player who's limited to that on offense, it clogs up your offense and makes you easy to defend. That's why you see teams like Detroit fail. 20 years ago, that Detroit roster would win. 20 years ago, the game was played differently. Joe Dumars didn't get the memo.

dckingsfan · Post #143 » by **dckingsfan** » Fri Sep 19, 2014 3:00 pm

Ruzious wrote:
dckingsfan wrote:
Dat2U wrote:According to snyergy numbers back in late March (sorry I don't have a current subscription), Cousins posted up 30% of the time & was used in the P&R roll man 18% of the time. He ISO'd only 8% of the time. However even in ISO situations, you need space to operate... throw a big C down low in Cousins' way and suddenly those post ups, P&Rs & ISOs are tougher to execute because the lane is now crowded.

Good stats... I see your point of view.

The game really has changed over the last decade or so - not just with 3 point shooting but also rules protecting players who drive to the basket - defensive 3 seconds and no hand-checking. Old school fans remember the days where low post basketball was the primary way to score. But now - if you have more than 1 player who's limited to that on offense, it clogs up your offense and makes you easy to defend. That's why you see teams like Detroit fail. 20 years ago, that Detroit roster would win. 20 years ago, the game was played differently. Joe Dumars didn't get the memo.

Got it - agreed. My point is that I see Cousins being much more versatile than say Pek. I think most underestimate his skill in this way. He can play all over the court and doesn't tend to sit in the low post and clog things up.

And agreed the Love type PF is a better solution.

Chocolate City Jordanaire · Post #144 » by **Chocolate City Jordanaire** » Tue Sep 23, 2014 6:00 am

The starting QB is Cousins' job. Even if RG3 heals in the next 10-12 weeks.

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Chocolate City Jordanaire · Post #145 » by **Chocolate City Jordanaire** » Fri Sep 26, 2014 3:26 am

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:The starting QB is Cousins' job. Even if RG3 heals in the next 10-12 weeks.

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After throwing 3 interceptions in one quarter, I am wondering how good Colt McCoy is.

Cousins sucked epically tonight.

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Wizardspride · Post #146 » by **Wizardspride** » Fri Sep 26, 2014 3:27 am

Unfortunately, Cousins is who I always thought he was.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/Russellmania980/status/515338900806860800[/tweet]

Sluggerface · Post #147 » by **Sluggerface** » Fri Sep 26, 2014 5:32 am

You guys hijacked the f' out of this thread.

FreeBalling · Post #148 » by **FreeBalling** » Fri Sep 26, 2014 10:05 am

I hope someone cleaned up that huge turd left on the field last night. Wouldn't want the new grass to die.

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Wizardspride · Post #149 » by **Wizardspride** » Fri Sep 26, 2014 11:37 am

To put it in perspective:

Robert Griffin has 17 interceptions in his career and Kirk Cousins has 15 interceptions in his career.

RGIII has started in 30 games.

Kirk has started 6.

Dat2U · Post #150 » by **Dat2U** » Fri Sep 26, 2014 12:39 pm

Wizardspride wrote:Unfortunately, Cousins is who I always thought he was.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/Russellmania980/status/515338900806860800[/tweet]

Those numbers are horrible. For those ready to anoint Cousins our QB of the future, what say you now?

Here's what I'm wondering, when will RG3 be back?

Worst part of last night was Cousins trade value officially went into the toilet.

Dark Faze · Post #151 » by **Dark Faze** » Fri Sep 26, 2014 1:29 pm

He looked like a guy who was just following a script regardless of the coverage.

And Kirk becoming straight shook when he takes pressure is officially a thing now. He completely lost his mind following the pick.

JWizmentality · Post #152 » by **JWizmentality** » Fri Sep 26, 2014 1:30 pm

One of the rare moments CCJ eats crow.

Dat2U · Post #153 » by **Dat2U** » Fri Sep 26, 2014 2:17 pm

Dark Faze wrote:He looked like a guy who was just following a script regardless of the coverage.

And Kirk becoming straight shook when he takes pressure is officially a thing now. He completely lost his mind following the pick.

Yeah guys make mistakes, throw bad passes and have bad games... but the mental meltdown in the 2nd half was quite disturbing. It will be real interesting to see if he can bounce back from this.

Wizardspride · Post #154 » by **Wizardspride** » Fri Sep 26, 2014 5:57 pm

[tweet]https://twitter.com/HTTR24_7/status/515539252500004864[/tweet]

Chocolate City Jordanaire · Post #155 » by **Chocolate City Jordanaire** » Fri Sep 26, 2014 6:07 pm

JWizmentality wrote:One of the rare moments CCJ eats crow.

Crow, raven, magpie ...

Cousins is a really bright guy but he didn't play sensibly or smartly at all. He kept on lobbing the ball up for grabs. Ball security is the most important aspect of the game. Kirk has the yips. He cannot be trusted to not give the ball away.

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Chocolate City Jordanaire · Post #156 » by **Chocolate City Jordanaire** » Fri Sep 26, 2014 6:09 pm

Sluggerface wrote:You guys hijacked the f' out of this thread.

At this point the only Cousins I want to talk about DeMarcus Cousins.

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Post #157 » by **W. Unseld** » Fri Sep 26, 2014 8:04 pm

I knew Cousins was usually good for a turnover or two (especially after allowing D. Jackson to take his jersey # then picking Rex Grossman's jersey as a replacement--HORRIBLE kharmic implications) but now I'm worried he's flat out shell-shocked and if he wasn't from that game he will be after the Seattle game.

Knighthonor · Post #158 » by **Knighthonor** » Fri Sep 26, 2014 9:34 pm

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:The starting QB is Cousins' job. Even if RG3 heals in the next 10-12 weeks.

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Anybody quote this dude--^ yet? :lol:

CobraCommander · Post #159 » by **CobraCommander** » Fri Sep 26, 2014 10:02 pm

Wizardspride wrote:To put it in perspective:

Robert Griffin has 17 interceptions in his career and Kirk Cousins has 15 interceptions in his career.

RGIII has started in 30 games.

Kirk has started 6.

Cousins isn't that good- and might occasionally suck :banghead:

- Giants

CobraCommander · Post #160 » by **CobraCommander** » Fri Sep 26, 2014 10:03 pm

Knighthonor wrote:
Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:The starting QB is Cousins' job. Even if RG3 heals in the next 10-12 weeks.

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Anybody quote this dude--^ yet?

I want to quote you quoting him!